2022-2024 Emerging Riders CQ Game

[bminchow]

Looking forward to 2023-2025!

 

[Armchair cyclist]

Was thinking about it yesterday, but have Covid and am totally out of any energy today: my wife sent me to bed without a laptop...

But it will be the same rules (18 men, fewer than 200 career points to end of 2022), and I will make the deadline 23:59 (UK time / UTC) on 14th Jan (because that will give time to pick up names from the main game, and the inaugural women's game entries close on 15th)

 

[RedheadDane]

Was thinking about it yesterday, but have Covid and am totally out of any energy today: my wife sent me to bed without a laptop...

But it will be the same rules (18 men, fewer than 200 career points to end of 2022), and I will make the deadline 23:59 (UK time / UTC) on 14th Jan (because that will give time to pick up names from the main game, and the inaugural women's game entries close on 15th)

Awesome!

Speedy recovery!

Go to sleep!

 

[Armchair cyclist]

Ignore what it says above about the closing date for 2023-25 being on 14th Jan: I can't cope with the same day being the final entries for both that and the WWT game. Please get 2023-25 teams to me by 23:59 UTC/GMT on 13th Jan (I have already warned my wife that she is unlikely to get any meaningful conversation out of me that weekend)

 

[Armchair cyclist]

End of Year 1

Almost no changes to scores in the weeks between the end of the pro season and the end of the year, except that Reuben Thompson lost 3 points in some sort of correction, to the detriment of EdkDeus's score.

But this has been a record breaking year in the short history of the game. The previous highest end of year one score by any team was 4687 by Karaev in 2018, but that would have come a miserable 22nd this year. This is the first time that a Collective Ignorance team (made up of riders that we all missed) has not been in the lead at the end of the first year: it would be way down in 25th.

We also have 2 record breaking riders (who go some way to explaining the high scores) : Arnaud De Lie (1439) and Juan Ayuso (1004). They are the first riders since the game started to break 1000 points in Year 1. Indeed, as far as I can find, in the time since CQ started (1998) the 1000 barrier had only been broken twice by someone who would have been eligible for selection in the game starting that year; Kittel in 2011 (1041) and Valverde in 2003 (1611).

The best possible team would be made up thus:

DE LIE Arnaud	1439​	24 teams​
AYUSO PESQUERA Juan	1004​	38 (out of 40)​
ZINGLE Axel	727​	9​
SHEFFIELD Magnus	621​	15​
VAUQUELIN Kévin	618​	0​
PICCOLO Andrea	509​	15​
PLAPP Lucas	441​	30​
DUJARDIN Sandy	401​	0​
TURNER Benjamin	372​	3​
STRONG Corbin	358​	2​
CHARMIG Anthon	358​	4​
VAN GILS Maxim	336​	13​
LAURANCE Axel	301​	0​
MONIQUET Sylvain	277​	1​
LEEMREIZE Gijs	263​	14​
FERRON Valentin	259​	3​
UIJTDEBROEKS Cian	253​	25​
GALL Felix	238​	1​

A year ago, Alessandro Covi with 520 was the top year 1 scorer, and one of only 4 with more than 400 at that stage (Schelling, Vansevanant and Aleotti, since you asked): further evidence of the amazing scores this time around.
They would have returned a (record) total of 8775, and Ray10, in getting 67.8% of the perfect score, just beats Madrazo's 67.6 in 2017 (for yet another record)


And I don't have a note of antecedents, but I strongly suspect that Vauquelin is the highest scoring unselected year one rider.

If you have the foresight to beat Ray10's records this year, or the insight into an underestimated youngster that will deprive the Collective Ignorance team of high scorer, you have until the end of Friday 13th to give me your 2023-25 teams. Don't let that date be unlucky for you.

 

[EvansIsTheBest]

We also have 2 record breaking riders (who go some way to explaining the high scores) : Arnaud De Lie (1439) and Juan Ayuso (1004). They are the first riders since the game started to break 1000 points in Year 1. Indeed, as far as I can find, in the time since CQ started (1998) the 1000 barrier had only been broken twice by someone who would have been eligible for selection in the game starting that year; Kittel in 2011 (1041) and Valverde in 2003 (1611).

I think there's Moreno Moser as well in 2012. Probably one of the most bizarre career arcs of the last few decades. He had one of the best neo pros season of the 21st century, won Strade Bianche the following year and then completely disappeared. No crash or suspension if I rmember correctly to explain the sudden drop off either.

 

[Armchair cyclist]

Good spot: I only included pre-game riders in my history file if they would have scored over 2000 over the three years, and despite him getting 1036 in what could have been a first season in the game (he had 94 career points prior to that year) he would only have got 1477 over the three years. It still would have been a decent contribution to a team if the game had been there at the time, but any team that picked him probably would have slid down the table in years 2 and 3.

He was the inspiration behind my "Whatever Happened to..." thread: no-one there had an explanation either.

 

[Armchair cyclist]

And so to the tricky second album year

Year 2, Month 1 to Feb 5th

Rider	Pts this month	Teams	Source
MAYRHOFER Marius	201​	4​	win CEGORR and TDU points
DE LIE Arnaud	172​	24​	GP Valencia win and 2 Besseges stage wins + 7th GC
SHEFFIELD Magnus	164​	15​	GC 4th and stage 2nd in TDU
PLAPP Lucas	147​	30​	National Champ RR win and TT 4th
VERNON Ethan	128​	22​	win and 2nd in Majorcan series
TIBERI Antonio	120​	22​	GC 8th in TDU
ZINGLE Axel	93​	9​
MILAN Jonathan	86​	4​
STRONG Corbin	85​	2​
RIVERA VARGAS Brandon Smith	80​	1​

So this is how we have each started 2023

Rank this month		Pts this month	Main scorers
1	Cordi	851​	De Lie/Sheffield/Plapp/Vernon/Tiberi
2	Del1962	791​	Mayrhofer/Plapp/Vernon/Tiberi
3	JumboVismaFan	787​	De Lie/Sheffield/Plapp/Vernon/Strong
4	DevilsElbow	775​	De Lie/Plapp/Vernon/Tiberi/Zingle
5	SafeBet	767​	De Lie/Plapp/Vernon/Tiberi/Zingle/Milan
5	Bminchow	767​	De Lie/Sheffield/Plapp/Vernon/Tiberi
7	Fivezzz	716​
8	Greenedge	715​
9	Laarsland	708​
10	Rufs	693​
11	Ray10	681​
12	Squire	668​
13	Berflamand	667​
14	LosBrolin	654​
15	Vladimir	642​
16	Koronin	629​
17	AmisVelo	618​
18	Bonimenier	616​
18	Nakazar	616​
20	Scrooll07	603​
21	Skidmark	600​
22	Blues_in_the_Bottle	597​
23	Madrazo	579​
24	Nyssinator	565​
25	Nathanptz	546​
26	Salvarani	520​
26	Josedin	520​
28	Kazistuta	510​
29	EvansIsTheBest	472​
30	RoteLaterne	450​
31	Leadbelly	434​
32	Riverside	402​
33	Armchair_Cyclist	355​
34	Comodoro	345​
35	Repre	339​
36	LukasCPH	310​
37	RedheadDane	254​
38	Otoxiep87	230​
39	EdkDeus	199​
40	JonEzeitza	180​
	CollectiveWisdom	780​
	CollectiveIgnorance	442​	Page, Van Eetvelt
	MainGame2022	764​
	Goodin2021	220​

Standings
Cordi and Devil's Elbow both enter the top ten; Squire, Los Brolin and Bminchow move up within it, and gaps within the top three are narrowed.

Rank	Team	Total	Change in position
1​	Ray10	6630	0​
2​	Laarsland	6597	0​
3​	SafeBet	6582	0​
4​	Squire	6432	1​
5​	LosBrolin	6365	1​
6​	Bminchow	6361	1​
7​	Nathanptz	6313	-3​
8​	Berflamand	6170	0​
9​	Cordi	6117	5​
10​	DevilsElbow	6064	3​
11​	JumboVismaFan	6027	4​
12​	Scrooll07	6012	-3​
13​	Skidmark	5980	-3​
14​	Madrazo	5954	-3​
15​	Bonimenier	5951	-3​
16​	Fivezzz	5915	0​
17​	Nakazar	5761	1​
18​	Salvarani	5708	-1​
19​	Greenedge	5558	1​
20​	Kazistuta	5533	-1​
21​	Rufs	5413	0​
22​	AmisVelo	5276	0​
23​	Nyssinator	5058	0​
24​	EvansIsTheBest	4699	0​
25​	Del1962	4333	6​
26​	RoteLaterne	4200	0​
27​	Josedin	4194	1​
28​	Vladimir	4117	5​
29​	Comodoro	4054	-2​
30​	Otoxiep87	4020	-5​
31​	Blues_in_the_Bottle	3919	4​
32​	Armchair_Cyclist	3915	-3​
33​	Repre	3890	-3​
34​	Koronin	3819	3​
35​	JonEzeitza	3657	-3​
36​	EdkDeus	3548	-2​
37​	LukasCPH	3514	-1​
38​	Riverside	3354	0​
39​	RedheadDane	3150	0​
40​	Leadbelly	2087	0​
	CollectiveWisdom	6642
	CollectiveIgnorance	4569
	MainGame2022	6270
	Goodin2021	4168

Cycling News 5255
Equipo Parlamiento 4506
Velorooms 4428

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Strong start to the season for me here (and also in the 23-25 game). Only two other players in the top-20 have Gloag, so hopefully he can give me a boost compared to the other teams who are doing well so far. That being said, having none of Sheffield, Piccolo and Uijtdebroeks should make it impossible for me to win this one.

 

[Armchair cyclist]

Year 2 Month 2 6th Feb to 5th March

DE LIE Arnaud	231​	24​	2nd in Omloop and Almeria, 7th in KBK
PLAPP Lucas	164​	30​	GC 2nd UAE tour
GREGOIRE Romain	164​	12​	8th Strade, 5th Ardeche, 6th Laigueglia
VAN GILS Maxim	141​	13​	6th in Oman, 5th in Muscat
TURNER Ben	128​	3 (Bonimenier, Ray, Repre)​	Murcia win, Jaen 2nd
ZWIEHOFF Ben	84​	1(Squire)​
GALL Felix	76​	1(Gall)​
TIBERI Antonio	70​	22​

This month

Rank this month		Pts this month	Main scorers
1	Ray10	860​	De Lie, Plapp, Gregoire, Turner
2	Nakazar	827​	De Lie, Plapp, Gregoire, Tiberi
3	SafeBet	826​	De Lie, Plapp, Van Gils, Tiberi
4	Nathanptz	812​	De Lie, Plapp, Gregoire, Van Gils
5	Bminchow	808​	De Lie, Plapp, Van Gils, Tiberi
6	Greenedge	799​
7	LosBrolin	791​
8	Laarsland	778​
9	Bonimenier	777​
10	Scrooll07	765​
11	Berflamand	764​
12	Squire	727​
13	Rufs	708​
14	Nyssinator	705​
15	Skidmark	673​
16	Repre	663​
17	AmisVelo	652​
18	JumboVismaFan	650​
19	DevilsElbow	647​
20	Kazistuta	644​
21	Madrazo	631​
22	Cordi	612​
23	Fivezzz	607​
23	Salvarani	607​
25	Josedin	559​
26	EvansIsTheBest	536​
26	Comodoro	536​
28	Armchair_Cyclist	474​
29	RoteLaterne	428​
30	Koronin	422​
31	Blues_in_the_Bottle	396​
32	EdkDeus	376​
33	Del1962	372​
34	JonEzeitza	354​
35	Riverside	301​
36	Otoxiep87	288​
37	LukasCPH	262​
38	RedheadDane	234​
39	Vladimir	222​
40	Leadbelly	135​
	CollectiveWisdom	705​
	CollectiveIgnorance	500​	Vauquelin 152, Welsford 141
	MainGame2022	642​
	Goodin2021	245​

Standings
Ray 10 might be shaping up to do here what SafeBet has done in the edition one year earlier: he took the lead in April of Year 1, and looks to be making the gap ever wider. But the same SafeBet positions himself as the most likely to chase him down if anyone will.

1​	Ray10	7490	0​
2​	SafeBet	7408	1​
3​	Laarsland	7375	-1​
4​	Bminchow	7169	2​
5​	Squire	7159	-1​
6​	LosBrolin	7156	-1​
7​	Nathanptz	7125	0​
8​	Berflamand	6934	0​
9​	Scrooll07	6777	3​
10​	Cordi	6729	-1​
11​	Bonimenier	6728	4​
12​	DevilsElbow	6711	-2​
13​	JumboVismaFan	6677	-2​
14​	Skidmark	6653	-1​
15​	Nakazar	6588	2​
16​	Madrazo	6585	-2​
17​	Fivezzz	6522	-1​
18​	Greenedge	6357	1​
19​	Salvarani	6315	-1​
20​	Kazistuta	6177	0​
21​	Rufs	6121	0​
22​	AmisVelo	5928	0​
23​	Nyssinator	5763	0​
24​	EvansIsTheBest	5235	0​
25​	Josedin	4753	2​
26​	Del1962	4705	-1​
27​	RoteLaterne	4628	-1​
28​	Comodoro	4590	1​
29​	Repre	4553	4​
30​	Armchair_Cyclist	4389	2​
31​	Vladimir	4339	-3​
32​	Blues_in_the_Bottle	4315	-1​
33​	Otoxiep87	4308	-3​
34​	Koronin	4241	0​
35​	JonEzeitza	4011	0​
36​	EdkDeus	3924	0​
37​	LukasCPH	3776	0​
38​	Riverside	3655	0​
39​	RedheadDane	3384	0​
40​	Leadbelly	2222	0​
	CollectiveWisdom	7347
	CollectiveIgnorance	5064
	MainGame2022	6912
	Goodin2021	4413

Cycling News 5870
Equipo Parlamiento 5021
VeloRooms 4890

Spreadsheet

 

[EvansIsTheBest]

500 point gap to the nearest rival in either direction for my team. I might already be locked into my final standing.

 

[Armchair cyclist]

500 point gap to the nearest rival in either direction for my team. I might already be locked into my final standing.

Statistically strange: one would expect the middle of the table to be more compacted.

You are 25th, and the game's top scorer (De Lie) is on 24 teams. I haven't got time to look it up now, but surely it is not so simple as everyone with AdL is above you, and you are well ahead of those who lack him.

EDIT: Apart from a bit of a brainfart when I said that Evans was 25th, when he is 24th, that analysis was very nearly true. All 23 teams above him have De Lie, and the only De Lie team below is Koronin, who has her, how can I put this, characteristically esoteric mix of Americans and associates of Valverde.

So congratulations on beating all the other DeLie teams. However, if you were to replace even your lowest scorer (unique pick Eddy Le Huitouze) with De Lie, you would still only be 8th. Which suggests that for the rest of us who missed De Lie, we didn't do very well with our other selections either.

 

[EvansIsTheBest]

Statistically strange: one would expect the middle of the table to be more compacted.

You are 25th, and the game's top scorer (De Lie) is on 24 teams. I haven't got time to look it up now, but surely it is not so simple as everyone with AdL is above you, and you are well ahead of those who lack him.

EDIT: Apart from a bit of a brainfart when I said that Evans was 25th, when he is 24th, that analysis was very nearly true. All 23 teams above him have De Lie, and the only De Lie team below is Koronin, who has her, how can I put this, characteristically esoteric mix of Americans and associates of Valverde.

So congratulations on beating all the other DeLie teams. However, if you were to replace even your lowest scorer (unique pick Eddy Le Huitouze) with De Lie, you would still only be 8th. Which suggests that for the rest of us who missed De Lie, we didn't do very well with our other selections either.

Best non-De Lie team is something at least. At first I thought that made sense since my young guys in the main game did exceedingly well and I tend to have a lot of overlap. But looking at my team most of the real steals were already priced out (Rodriguez, Skjelmose, Buitrago...) so it's really just Zingle and Sheffield (+ Ayuso but everybody has him) that prop up the team. I'm hopeful that guys like Ny,s Grégoire and Martinez might contribute more in year 2 and 3 so I can maintain that position.

Small aside, De Lie was obviously the biggest omission from my main game team but I never really considered him as evidenced by his omission here as well so I'm not really mad about that one. The ones that really hurt were Sheffield that was in a bunch of drafts and got cut right at the end and Benjamin Dyball who was literally in the balance with Kevin Serrano as my third zero pointer until the very end. I went with Serrano because I figured he was on Gazprom instead of some japanaese continental team so he was more likely to get a consistent racing schedule. Guess who scored 0 points because their team folded in march (for obvious reasons) and who went on to score 264 points and would have been a unique pick ?

 

[Armchair cyclist]

Can someone explain Kevin Vauquelin to me?

He wasn't chosen for this (or any previous) edition of this game, and was unpicked for the Main Game last year when he would have cost 54 points. He had twice been a stagiare with Arkea, and got a contract with them (I have no odea when they was announced, He then scored 618 points in his first full year, 73rd overall (5th from his team, would have been in the top 6 of all WorldTeams apart from Ineos and UAE, and top 3 of performers for 6 (then) World Teams). The start he has made this year does not make that look like a fluke.

So how did he keep such ability hidden from everyone? How did he get the results he has from so inauspicious a pre-career? Was he a feature at all in his youth career? (probably not the most appropriate thread to raise it, but...)

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Can someone explain Kevin Vauquelin to me?

He wasn't chosen for this (or any previous) edition of this game, and was unpicked for the Main Game last year when he would have cost 54 points. He had twice been a stagiare with Arkea, and got a contract with them (I have no odea when they was announced, He then scored 618 points in his first full year, 73rd overall (5th from his team, would have been in the top 6 of all WorldTeams apart from Ineos and UAE, and top 3 of performers for 6 (then) World Teams). The start he has made this year does not make that look like a fluke.

So how did he keep such ability hidden from everyone? How did he get the results he has from so inauspicious a pre-career? Was he a feature at all in his youth career? (probably not the most appropriate thread to raise it, but...)

Vauquelin definitely wasn't a complete nobody in his youth career - four medals across 2 junior track world championships, road race and time trial national titles as a junior, repeating the latter title at the U23 level, coupled with good TTs and occasionally climbing performances in major U23 races like Course de la Paix and Étoile d'Or - so some degree of success might have been expected. But even in hindsight, those aren't results that suggest a first 15 months as a pro as good as he's had.

So I wouldn't say his skillset changed much in 2022, but rather that the entirety of it has taken a significantly bigger-than-expected step up upon turning pro, even taking into account that 2020 was mostly a wasted year for him as it was for so many riders his age. Couple that with an insanely CQ-friendly race programme and you get a massive score by the standards of a debut season. Let's face it, if he's on, say, Ineos, he scores like 200 points in 2022 even with the level he's shown and nobody would be batting an eyelid barring a monster ride on domestique duty.

 

[Armchair cyclist]

Year 2 Month 3 March 6 to April 2

HEALY Ben	221 pts​	4 teams​	Industria win; Coppi e Bartali stage win and GC 3rd
PITHIE Laurence	162​	5​	GP Cholet win, Loire Atlantique 2nd, Nokere 8th
ZINGLE Axel	146​	9​	Loire Atlantique win, placements in Cholet and Dwars
LAZKANO LOPEZ Oier	113​	2​	2nd in Dwars
VAN DIJKE Tim	102​	9​	Denain 2nd
ASKEY Lewis	91​	20​
VAN UDEN Casper	87​	2​
DVERSNES Fredrik	87​	1​
HAGENES Per Strand	86​	8​

This month
1000 points in the month at this stage is probably fairly rare, without looking at lots of old posts. Nearly 500 clear of 4th certainly makes it look like a noteworthy performance by Comodoro.

1	Comodoro	1003​	Healy, Pithie, Van Dijke, Askey, Van Uden
2	LosBrolin	838​	Pithie, Van Dijke, Askey, Hagenes
3	Ray10	704​	Zingle, Askey, Dversnes, Hagenes
4	Laarsland	556​	Zingle, Hagenes
5	DevilsElbow	553​	Pithie, Zingle, Askey
6	SafeBet	549​	Pithie, Zingle
7	Squire	511​
8	Fivezzz	505​
9	Scrooll07	495​
10	Armchair_Cyclist	493​
11	EvansIsTheBest	491​
12	RedheadDane	475​
13	Bminchow	470​
13	Greenedge	470​
15	JumboVismaFan	465​
16	Del1962	463​
17	Nakazar	462​
18	Nathanptz	442​
18	Nyssinator	442​
20	Berflamand	422​
21	Otoxiep87	412​
22	Madrazo	403​
23	Skidmark	386​
24	Vladimir	383​
25	Salvarani	381​
26	Koronin	380​
27	Blues_in_the_Bottle	376​
28	Rufs	346​
29	JonEzeitza	341​
30	AmisVelo	308​
31	Bonimenier	305​
32	Kazistuta	300​
33	Repre	276​
34	Leadbelly	223​
35	Cordi	216​
36	RoteLaterne	211​
37	Josedin	190​
38	EdkDeus	166​
39	LukasCPH	126​
40	Riverside	123​
	CollectiveWisdom	376​
	CollectiveIgnorance	785​	Welsford, Stewart, Kielich
	MainGame2022	399​
	Goodin2021	374​

Standings
Comodoro's excellent score happened too far down the ffield to have been off any real consequence. Ray is third this time, so pushes that lead out a bit further, while Los Brolin makes a string move into second.

1​	Ray10	8194	0​
2​	LosBrolin	7994	4​
3​	SafeBet	7957	-1​
4​	Laarsland	7931	-1​
5​	Squire	7670	0​
6​	Bminchow	7639	-2​
7​	Nathanptz	7567	0​
8​	Berflamand	7356	0​
9​	Scrooll07	7272	0​
10​	DevilsElbow	7264	2​
11​	JumboVismaFan	7142	2​
12​	Nakazar	7050	3​
13​	Skidmark	7039	1​
14​	Bonimenier	7033	-3​
15​	Fivezzz	7027	2​
16​	Madrazo	6988	0​
17​	Cordi	6945	-7​
18​	Greenedge	6827	0​
19​	Salvarani	6696	0​
20​	Kazistuta	6477	0​
21​	Rufs	6467	0​
22​	AmisVelo	6236	0​
23​	Nyssinator	6205	0​
24​	EvansIsTheBest	5726	0​
25​	Comodoro	5593	3​
26​	Del1962	5168	0​
27​	Josedin	4943	-2​
28​	Armchair_Cyclist	4882	2​
29​	RoteLaterne	4839	-2​
30​	Repre	4829	-1​
31​	Vladimir	4722	0​
32​	Otoxiep87	4720	1​
33​	Blues_in_the_Bottle	4691	-1​
34​	Koronin	4621	0​
35​	JonEzeitza	4352	0​
36​	EdkDeus	4090	0​
37​	LukasCPH	3902	0​
38​	RedheadDane	3859	1​
39​	Riverside	3778	-1​
40​	Leadbelly	2445	0​
	CollectiveWisdom	7723
	CollectiveIgnorance	5704
	MainGame2022	7311
	Goodin2021	4787

 

[bminchow]

Thanks for the update! I'm dropping fast. I need a little more from Van Gils and Sheffield.

 

[Cordi333]

Thanks for the update! I'm dropping fast. I need a little more from Van Gils and Sheffield.

If you think you're dropping fast, just look at my team and you will feel better.

 

[Armchair cyclist]

Year 2, Month 4 3-30 April

Even as one of the managers who picked him, I wouldn't have expected Ben Healy to be the top scorer in classics month:

HEALY Ben	390pts​	4 teams​	2nd in Amstel, 4th in L-B-L, 2nd in Brabantse Pijl, 5th in Pays de la Loire
FERRON Valentin	186​	3​	Paris-Camembert win, Pays dl Loire 3rd, Amstel 13th
VAN GILS Maxim	178​	13​	Amstel 2nd, Fleche 8th, LBL 11, Volta Limburg 2nd
DVERSNES Fredrik	155​	1​	Pays dl Loire 2nd, Camembert 3rd
AYUSO PESQUERA Juan	146​	38​	Romandie stage 1st and 2nd, Pts 2nd, GC 16th
GALL Felix	122​	1​
UIJTDEBROEKS Cian	113​	25​

I wasn't expecting this either! Comodoro follows his March win with a second, and Ray has 2 thirds in a row after his February win.

1	Armchair_Cyclist	975​	Healy, Van Gils, Ayuso, Uijtdebroecks
2	Comodoro	940​	Healy, Van Gils, Ayuso, Uijtdebroecks
3	Ray10	845​	Ferron, Dversnes, Ayuso, Uijtdebroecks
4	RedheadDane	809​	Healy, Van Gils, Ayuso
5	Del1962	782​
6	EvansIsTheBest	779​
7	SafeBet	722​
8	RoteLaterne	681​
9	Bminchow	668​
10	Squire	654​
11	Greenedge	619​
12	Scrooll07	603​
13	Repre	583​
14	DevilsElbow	575​
15	Skidmark	569​
16	Salvarani	560​
17	Berflamand	548​
18	Nyssinator	527​
19	Laarsland	517​
20	Nakazar	507​
20	Madrazo	507​
22	Rufs	495​
23	Nathanptz	493​
24	Bonimenier	487​
25	JumboVismaFan	477​
26	AmisVelo	474​
27	Fivezzz	464​
28	JonEzeitza	463​
29	LosBrolin	423​
30	LukasCPH	420​
31	Cordi	410​
32	Josedin	401​
33	Vladimir	400​
34	Riverside	397​
35	Blues_in_the_Bottle	393​
36	Kazistuta	386​
37	EdkDeus	383​
38	Otoxiep87	367​
39	Koronin	217​
40	Leadbelly	211​
	CollectiveWisdom	520​
	CollectiveIgnorance	522​
	MainGame2022	482​
	Goodin2021	766​

Standings

1​	Ray10	9039	0​
2​	SafeBet	8679	1​
3​	Laarsland	8448	1​
4​	LosBrolin	8417	-2​
5​	Squire	8324	0​
6​	Bminchow	8307	0​
7​	Nathanptz	8060	0​
8​	Berflamand	7904	0​
9​	Scrooll07	7875	0​
10​	DevilsElbow	7839	0​
11​	JumboVismaFan	7619	0​
12​	Skidmark	7608	1​
13​	Nakazar	7557	-1​
14​	Bonimenier	7520	0​
15​	Madrazo	7495	1​
16​	Fivezzz	7491	-1​
17​	Greenedge	7446	1​
18​	Cordi	7355	-1​
19​	Salvarani	7256	0​
20​	Rufs	6962	1​
21​	Kazistuta	6863	-1​
22​	Nyssinator	6732	1​
23​	AmisVelo	6710	-1​
24​	Comodoro	6533	1​
25​	EvansIsTheBest	6505	-1​
26​	Del1962	5950	0​
27​	Armchair_Cyclist	5857	1​
28​	RoteLaterne	5520	1​
29​	Repre	5412	1​
30​	Josedin	5344	-3​
31​	Vladimir	5122	0​
32​	Otoxiep87	5087	0​
33​	Blues_in_the_Bottle	5084	0​
34​	Koronin	4838	0​
35​	JonEzeitza	4815	0​
36​	RedheadDane	4668	2​
37​	EdkDeus	4473	-1​
38​	LukasCPH	4322	-1​
39​	Riverside	4175	0​
40​	Leadbelly	2656	0​
	CollectiveWisdom	8243
	CollectiveIgnorance	6127
	MainGame2022	7793
	Goodin2021	5553

From a viewing point of view, May will mainly be about Il Giro, but will it be that or races like Hunday, Norway and Tro-Bro that have the greater effect on this? Find out sometime in early June.

 

[Armchair cyclist]

Year 2 Month 5 1-28 May. A bit early, but I have more time this week than I will next, and I don't want to be doing the June update once the Tour game is underway.

MILAN Jonathan	320	4	Stage win, 4 2nds and ciclamino at Giro
GREGOIRE Romain	304	12	2nd in Plumelec-Morbihan, 4 days of Dunkerque win
DE LIE Arnaud	238	24	Plumelec wic, Tro-Bro 2nd
ZINGLE Axel	231	9	3rd & stage pts in Mayenne, 3rd in Finistere
LAZKANO LOPEZ Oier	191	2	Mayenne wins, stage and GC
LEITAO Iuri Gabriel Dantas	169	1	Tour of Hellas GC win and stage pts
HEALY Ben	150	4	Giro stage win & 2nd
PENHOËT Paul	125	2	win in Finistere, Plumelec 11th, some from Dunkerque
OLIVEIRA Ivo Emanuel Alves	111	1	Stage win and GC 4th in Mayenne
LAMPERTI Luke	108	1	3 stage wins in Tour of Japan

Milan was more popular in the previous iteration of the game, Gregoire in the following one. Only one manager showed the necessary combination of perseverance and foresight to have both.

1	Laarsland	1255	Milan, Gregoire, De Lie, Zingle
2	SafeBet	974	Milan, De Lie, Zingle
3	Ray10	894	Gregoire, De Lie, Zingle
4	Skidmark	891	Gregoire, De Lie, Leitao
5	DevilsElbow	874	De Lie, Zingle, Lamperti
6	Nathanptz	836	Gregoire, De Lie, Penhoet
7	Nyssinator	824	Gregoire, De Lie
8	Berflamand	783
9	EvansIsTheBest	774
10	Nakazar	767
11	LosBrolin	717
12	Greenedge	656
13	Fivezzz	634
14	Vladimir	604
15	Koronin	565
16	Squire	560
17	Madrazo	558
18	Comodoro	552
19	Scrooll07	551
20	EdkDeus	503
21	Bonimenier	470
22	Cordi	449
23	Salvarani	432
24	Bminchow	423
25	Josedin	421
26	JumboVismaFan	411
27	Del1962	409
28	AmisVelo	408
29	Kazistuta	354
30	Rufs	332
31	Armchair_Cyclist	267
32	JonEzeitza	264
33	Riverside	224
34	Otoxiep87	216
35	RedheadDane	208
36	Leadbelly	202
37	Blues_in_the_Bottle	148
38	LukasCPH	117
39	Repre	114
40	RoteLaterne	98
	CollectiveWisdom	428
	CollectiveIgnorance	1415
	MainGame2022	485
	Goodin2021	286

Standings
1-2-3 this month was 3-2-1 at the end of April, so those three teams move closer to each other and farther from the rest of the field.

1	Ray10	9933	0
2	Laarsland	9703	1
3	SafeBet	9653	-1
4	LosBrolin	9134	0
5	Nathanptz	8896	2
6	Squire	8884	-1
7	Bminchow	8730	-1
8	DevilsElbow	8713	2
9	Berflamand	8687	-1
10	Skidmark	8499	2
11	Scrooll07	8426	-2
12	Nakazar	8324	1
13	Fivezzz	8125	3
14	Greenedge	8102	3
15	Madrazo	8053	0
16	JumboVismaFan	8030	-5
17	Bonimenier	7990	-3
18	Cordi	7804	0
19	Salvarani	7688	0
20	Nyssinator	7556	2
21	Rufs	7294	-1
22	EvansIsTheBest	7279	3
23	Kazistuta	7217	-2
24	AmisVelo	7118	-1
25	Comodoro	7085	-1
26	Del1962	6359	0
27	Armchair_Cyclist	6124	0
28	Josedin	5765	2
29	Vladimir	5726	2
30	RoteLaterne	5618	-2
31	Repre	5526	-2
32	Koronin	5403	2
33	Otoxiep87	5303	-1
34	Blues_in_the_Bottle	5232	-1
35	JonEzeitza	5079	0
36	EdkDeus	4976	1
37	RedheadDane	4876	-1
38	LukasCPH	4439	0
39	Riverside	4399	0
40	Leadbelly	2858	0
	CollectiveWisdom	8671
	CollectiveIgnorance	7170
	MainGame2022	8278
	Goodin2021	5839

Spreadsheet

 

[Armchair cyclist]

Year 2, Month 6 29th May to 25th June
One rider makes this a very high scoring month, as he is the most popular in the game.

AYUSO PESQUERA Juan	445​	38​	2 stage wins and 2nd on GC in Tour de Swisse, with 2nd (RR) and 4th (TT) in Nationals
GALL Felix	238​	1 (Greenedge)​	2nd in Alpes Maritimes, stage win and GC 8th in Swisse
WAERENSKJOLD Søren	234​	14​	stage win & GC 2nd in Belgium Tour, win nat TT, 7th in Hageland
MARTINEZ Lenny	198​	2​	CIC Ventoux win, Alpes Maritimes 4th, Dauphine 18th
NYS Thibau	197​	12​	Norway GC 3rd, Aargau-Gippingen win, stage podiums in Belgium
LAZKANO LOPEZ Oier	187​	2 (Koronin, Otoxiep87)​	win Nat RR, 2nd in TT
UIJTDEBROEKS Cian	139​	25​
SHEFFIELD Magnus	120​	15​
LUND ANDRESEN Tobias	112​	1(Los Brolin)​
VAN TRICHT Stan	103​	15​

De Lie had some time off, giving other teams a chance to appear high in the monthly rankings.
EitB and Berflamand look from this to have the same, but just below the cut-off, Evans has Steinhauser and Baroncini, both of whom Berflamand lacks.

1	EvansIsTheBest	1551​	Ayuso, Martinez, Nys, Uijtdebroeks, Sheffield, Van Tricht
2	Berflamand	1412​	Ayuso, Martinez, Nys, Uijtdebroeks, Sheffield, Van Tricht
3	Squire	1405​	Ayuso, Waerenskjold, Nys, Uijtdebroeks
4	Bonimenier	1364​	Ayuso,Waerenskjold, Nys, Uijtdebroeks, Van Tricht
5	Nakazar	1303​	Ayuso, Waerenskjold, Nys, Uijtdebroeks
6	EdkDeus	1297​
7	RoteLaterne	1281​
8	JumboVismaFan	1239​
9	Comodoro	1229​
10	Nyssinator	1207​
11	LosBrolin	1204​
12	Otoxiep87	1187​
13	Vladimir	1182​
14	DevilsElbow	1159​
15	Skidmark	1156​
16	Ray10	1154​
17	Madrazo	1143​
18	Laarsland	1134​
19	Blues_in_the_Bottle	1125​
20	AmisVelo	1115​
21	Del1962	1097​
22	Bminchow	1096​
23	Cordi	1087​
24	JonEzeitza	1080​
25	Repre	1059​
26	Kazistuta	1050​
27	Josedin	1020​
28	SafeBet	1019​
29	Greenedge	1018​
30	LukasCPH	995​
31	Scrooll07	984​
32	Armchair_Cyclist	930​
33	Fivezzz	883​
34	RedheadDane	866​
35	Nathanptz	861​
36	Rufs	846​
37	Salvarani	822​
38	Riverside	815​
39	Koronin	467​
40	Leadbelly	324​
	CollectiveWisdom	1346​
	CollectiveIgnorance	716​
	MainGame2022	1136​
	Goodin2021	825​

Standings
The three leaders had very modest performances in June, which might give some hope to the rest of the field.
Of the top ten, only Squire and Berflamand made the month's top ten:

1​	Ray10	11087	0​
2​	Laarsland	10837	0​
3​	SafeBet	10672	0​
4​	LosBrolin	10338	0​
5​	Squire	10289	1​
6​	Berflamand	10099	3​
7​	DevilsElbow	9872	1​
8​	Bminchow	9826	-1​
9​	Nathanptz	9757	-4​
10​	Skidmark	9655	0​
11​	Nakazar	9627	1​
12​	Scrooll07	9410	-1​
13​	Bonimenier	9354	4​
14​	JumboVismaFan	9269	2​
15​	Madrazo	9196	0​
16​	Greenedge	9120	-2​
17​	Fivezzz	9008	-4​
18​	Cordi	8891	0​
19​	EvansIsTheBest	8830	3​
20​	Nyssinator	8763	0​
21​	Salvarani	8510	-2​
22​	Comodoro	8314	3​
23​	Kazistuta	8267	0​
24​	AmisVelo	8233	0​
25​	Rufs	8140	-4​
26​	Del1962	7456	0​
27​	Armchair_Cyclist	7054	0​
28​	Vladimir	6908	1​
29​	RoteLaterne	6899	1​
30​	Josedin	6785	-2​
31​	Repre	6585	0​
32​	Otoxiep87	6490	1​
33​	Blues_in_the_Bottle	6357	1​
34​	EdkDeus	6273	2​
35​	JonEzeitza	6159	0​
36​	Koronin	5870	-4​
37​	RedheadDane	5742	0​
38​	LukasCPH	5434	0​
39​	Riverside	5214	0​
40​	Leadbelly	3182	0​
	CollectiveWisdom	10017
	CollectiveIgnorance	7797
	MainGame2022	9414
	Goodin2021	6664

Not much Tour de France participation for this cohort this year (Gall, Zingle, Vermaerke, Tejada, Charmig, Waerenskjold, Turner, Van Gils: anyone else?), not sure where the points will come from for the July update, but there should be one.

 

[bminchow]

Another appreciated update as i continue to drop in the standings. Still worth looking at though

 

[EvansIsTheBest]

Nice monthly win to continue the theme that my team is probably the best non De Lie team in the competition.

 

[Armchair cyclist]

Strange interval this time: the irregularity is why I don't have a green jersey competition in this.
Note that the most recent results included in this update are nearly 2 weeks ago.

Year 2, Months 7-8a June 26 to Aug 20
Less popular picks to the fore, and not only De Lie

GALL Felix	436 points​	1 teams​	8th in TdF with 1st, 2nd and 3rd in stages and 2nd in KoM
DE LIE Arnaud	279​	24​	Polynormande and Jef Scherens wins, 7th in Bemer Classic, stage win in Wallonie
WAERENSKJOLD Søren	212​	14​	National TT win, 13th in Worlds TT, Danmark Rundt 4th with stage win and 2 2nds
LIPOWITZ Florian	204​	1​	Czech tour GC win and stage pts, 6th in Sibiu
SCARONI Christian	179​	1​	2nd in Arctic race, TdPologne GC 13th
GREGOIRE Romain	173​	12​	Tour du Limousin, wins in 2 stages and GC
VERMAERKE Kevin	149​	6​	3rd in Arctic race
GARCIA PIERNA Raul	119​	1​

If a rider is going ok and was a very rare pick one year, but still available the next, usually he is much more popular the second year. Nobody repeated SafeBet's pick of Lipowitz in the 2023-25 game.
Waerenskjold seems to have been in editions of this game for about a decade: somebody picked him when he was very young.
The unique picks of Scaroni and Garcia belong to Otoxiep and Koronin respectively.

A very good unique pick gets the 'monthly' title for Greenedge: Nakazar came top for this period in the 2023-25 game, and second here.

1	Greenedge	1232​	Gall and De Lie
2	Nakazar	1080​	De Lie, Waerenskjold, Gregoire
3	Ray10	1053​	De Lie, Waerenskjold, Gregoire
4	SafeBet	1023​	De Lie & Lipowitz
5	Scrooll07	989​	De Lie & Waerenskjold
6	DevilsElbow	959​
7	Squire	950​
8	Skidmark	912​
9	Bonimenier	889​
10	EdkDeus	872​
11	Kazistuta	859​
12	Nathanptz	852​
13	LosBrolin	848​
14	AmisVelo	834​
15	Berflamand	829​
16	Cordi	819​
17	JumboVismaFan	816​
18	Laarsland	814​
19	Comodoro	813​
20	Koronin	783​
21	Bminchow	782​
22	Fivezzz	774​
23	Madrazo	746​
24	RoteLaterne	742​
25	Nyssinator	739​
26	Salvarani	737​
27	EvansIsTheBest	703​
28	LukasCPH	692​
29	JonEzeitza	672​
30	Josedin	664​
31	Rufs	657​
32	Del1962	656​
33	Otoxiep87	590​
34	RedheadDane	545​
35	Repre	540​
36	Armchair_Cyclist	494​
36	Blues_in_the_Bottle	494​
38	Leadbelly	397​
39	Riverside	347​
40	Vladimir	215​
	CollectiveWisdom	893​
	CollectiveIgnorance	1104​
	MainGame2022	556​
	Goodin2021	586​

Standings

1​	Ray10	12140	0​
2​	SafeBet	11695	1​
3​	Laarsland	11651	-1​
4​	Squire	11239	1​
5​	LosBrolin	11186	-1​
6​	Berflamand	10928	0​
7​	DevilsElbow	10831	0​
8​	Nakazar	10707	3​
9​	Nathanptz	10609	0​
10​	Bminchow	10608	-2​
11​	Skidmark	10567	-1​
12​	Scrooll07	10399	0​
13​	Greenedge	10352	3​
14​	Bonimenier	10243	-1​
15​	JumboVismaFan	10085	-1​
16​	Madrazo	9942	-1​
17​	Fivezzz	9782	0​
18​	Cordi	9710	0​
19​	EvansIsTheBest	9533	0​
20​	Nyssinator	9502	0​
21​	Salvarani	9247	0​
22​	Comodoro	9127	0​
23​	Kazistuta	9126	0​
24​	AmisVelo	9067	0​
25​	Rufs	8797	0​
26​	Del1962	8112	0​
27​	RoteLaterne	7641	2​
28​	Armchair_Cyclist	7548	-1​
29​	Josedin	7449	1​
30​	EdkDeus	7145	4​
31​	Repre	7125	0​
32​	Vladimir	7123	-4​
33​	Otoxiep87	7080	-1​
34​	Blues_in_the_Bottle	6851	-1​
35​	JonEzeitza	6831	0​
36​	Koronin	6653	0​
37​	RedheadDane	6287	0​
38​	LukasCPH	6126	0​
39​	Riverside	5561	0​
40​	Leadbelly	3579	0​
	CollectiveWisdom	10910
	CollectiveIgnorance	8630
	MainGame2022	9970
	Goodin2021	7250

We already know some fairly significant points scored since the spreadsheet this is based on was posted: there will be more, not least the matters of what Vuelta points Ayuso and Uijtdebroecks might get. Hopefully an update around the end of Sept/early Oct.