-
The Cycling News forum is still looking to add volunteer moderators with. If you're interested in helping keep our discussions on track, send a direct message to
In the meanwhile, please use the Report option if you see a post that doesn't fit within the forum rules.
Thanks!
Year 2 Month 10 2nd to 22nd October, and thus to the end of the season (although I'll wait to see if anything happens outside Europe and with adjustment of results before I do the end of year data)
Mainly less common picks gaining the points at the tail end of the season (and De Lie, of course)
Standings
And so we end year two with the same teams in the top three as we had at the beginning of it (albeit with 2nd and 3rd swapped)
The gaps are not that large, but the positions are being doggedly retained.
But who are the riders who are going to have their breakthrough in the third year?
Mainly less common picks gaining the points at the tail end of the season (and De Lie, of course)
| VADER Milan | 238 | 1 (Amis Velo) | Guangxi GC and stage win |
| BERWICK Sebastian | 158 | 1 (Redhead Dane) | Stage win &3rd, GC 2nd in Hainan |
| HAGENES Per Strand | 130 | 8 | Munsterland Giro win |
| VAN GILS Maxim | 108 | 13 | 14th Lombardia, 4th in Japan Cup |
| TEJADA CANACUE Harold Alfonso | 105 | 3 | 8th in Gran Piemonte, 3rd in Turkey |
| ZWIEHOFF Ben | 93 | 1 (Squire) | |
| DE LIE Arnaud | 89 | 24 | |
| STRONG Corbin | 81 | 2 | |
| MILAN Jonathan | 81 | 4 | |
| ASKEY Lewis | 78 | 20 | |
| MONIQUET Sylvain | 77 | 1 | |
| PEÑA JIMENEZ Jesus David | 76 | 3 | |
| LIPOWITZ Florian | 71 | 1 |
| 1 | AmisVelo | 528 | Vader, De Lie, Askey |
| 2 | LosBrolin | 488 | Hagenes, De Lie, Askey |
| 3 | SafeBet | 472 | Hagenes, De Lie, Milan, Lipowitz |
| 4 | Scrooll07 | 457 | Hagenes, De Lie, Askey |
| 5 | Squire | 455 | Zwiehoff, De Lie, Askey |
| 6 | Nathanptz | 433 | |
| 7 | Ray10 | 431 | |
| 8 | RedheadDane | 426 | |
| 9 | Salvarani | 406 | |
| 10 | Laarsland | 405 | |
| 11 | Bminchow | 396 | |
| 12 | Rufs | 377 | |
| 13 | JonEzeitza | 371 | |
| 14 | Vladimir | 366 | |
| 15 | Greenedge | 365 | |
| 16 | Bonimenier | 348 | |
| 17 | Kazistuta | 344 | |
| 18 | Armchair_Cyclist | 338 | |
| 19 | DevilsElbow | 333 | |
| 20 | Skidmark | 323 | |
| 21 | Nyssinator | 321 | |
| 22 | Nakazar | 316 | |
| 23 | EdkDeus | 313 | |
| 24 | Berflamand | 300 | |
| 25 | Fivezzz | 294 | |
| 26 | Madrazo | 291 | |
| 27 | Comodoro | 263 | |
| 28 | JumboVismaFan | 257 | |
| 29 | Leadbelly | 252 | |
| 30 | Repre | 234 | |
| 31 | EvansIsTheBest | 218 | |
| 32 | Cordi | 215 | |
| 33 | Otoxiep87 | 201 | |
| 34 | Del1962 | 195 | |
| 35 | Blues_in_the_Bottle | 175 | |
| 36 | RoteLaterne | 166 | |
| 37 | Koronin | 157 | |
| 38 | LukasCPH | 76 | |
| 39 | Riverside | 56 | |
| 40 | Josedin | 49 | |
| CollectiveWisdom | 306 | ||
| CollectiveIgnorance | 189 | ||
| MainGame2022 | 628 | ||
| Goodin2021 | 206 |
Standings
And so we end year two with the same teams in the top three as we had at the beginning of it (albeit with 2nd and 3rd swapped)
1 | Ray10 | 14366 | 0 |
2 | SafeBet | 13806 | 0 |
3 | Laarsland | 13686 | 0 |
4 | LosBrolin | 13361 | 1 |
5 | Squire | 13354 | -1 |
6 | Berflamand | 12996 | 0 |
7 | Nakazar | 12783 | 0 |
8 | DevilsElbow | 12739 | 0 |
9 | Bminchow | 12622 | 1 |
10 | Nathanptz | 12603 | 1 |
11 | Skidmark | 12595 | -2 |
12 | Scrooll07 | 12426 | 0 |
13 | JumboVismaFan | 12211 | 0 |
14 | Bonimenier | 12206 | 0 |
15 | Greenedge | 12137 | 0 |
16 | Madrazo | 11763 | 0 |
17 | Cordi | 11493 | 0 |
18 | Fivezzz | 11490 | 0 |
19 | AmisVelo | 11221 | 3 |
20 | Nyssinator | 11219 | -1 |
21 | Salvarani | 11107 | 0 |
22 | EvansIsTheBest | 11035 | -2 |
23 | Kazistuta | 10997 | 0 |
24 | Comodoro | 10710 | 0 |
25 | Rufs | 10445 | 0 |
26 | Del1962 | 9291 | 0 |
27 | Armchair_Cyclist | 8828 | 2 |
28 | RoteLaterne | 8754 | -1 |
29 | Josedin | 8592 | -1 |
30 | Vladimir | 8446 | 0 |
31 | EdkDeus | 8382 | 0 |
32 | JonEzeitza | 8204 | 2 |
33 | Repre | 8192 | -1 |
34 | Blues_in_the_Bottle | 8068 | -1 |
35 | Otoxiep87 | 8013 | 0 |
36 | Koronin | 7905 | 0 |
37 | RedheadDane | 7752 | 0 |
38 | LukasCPH | 6870 | 0 |
39 | Riverside | 6365 | 0 |
40 | Leadbelly | 4152 | 0 |
| CollectiveWisdom | 12985 | ||
| CollectiveIgnorance | 9559 | ||
| MainGame2022 | 12286 | ||
| Goodin2021 | 8160 |
The gaps are not that large, but the positions are being doggedly retained.
But who are the riders who are going to have their breakthrough in the third year?
First edition since I'm playing those games in which my team goes backwards from year 1 to year 2. Nah, this one is not gonna make it 
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl5cEPuuNnc
Year 2, Months 11 and 12
Juan Diego Alba Bolivar had had a couple of uninspiring years as a young rider at Movistar, and was looking to get a kick start at Androni Giocattoli when we were putting our teams together. That was enough hope for @Riverside to grant him a place in his team for this game, and two years on, Alba has just won the Vuelta a Costa Rica for the Ecuadorian lower level Movistar team, gaining 35 points and making himself, and Riverside, the only scorers in the game in this not-entirely-off-season time frame.
Number crunching to follow in the next few days, real life allowing.
Juan Diego Alba Bolivar had had a couple of uninspiring years as a young rider at Movistar, and was looking to get a kick start at Androni Giocattoli when we were putting our teams together. That was enough hope for @Riverside to grant him a place in his team for this game, and two years on, Alba has just won the Vuelta a Costa Rica for the Ecuadorian lower level Movistar team, gaining 35 points and making himself, and Riverside, the only scorers in the game in this not-entirely-off-season time frame.
Number crunching to follow in the next few days, real life allowing.
End of Year 2 summary
The best possible team by 2023 scores:
Only 2 unpicked riders, and one of them just squeaking in. 13 532 for the year had anyone picked them all
But no-one did, so these are the best scores for year 2 alone
Rider scores so far:
8 of these were not in the top 18 for Year 1.
De Lie has 3154 and still has a year to go. Since the game started, only Bernal, Pogacar and Evenepoel had more than that after 3 years. Cavendish, Quintana, Cungo, Sagan and Valverde can be added to that list if we go back to the beginning of CQ points. He needs 956 in 2024 to overtake Pogacar as the best scorer during the game, 1333 to overhaul Sagan for second including the pre-game scorers, and 1449 to be the most dramatically emerging rider (by the definition of this game) since CQ started (essentially, since 2000)
That best possible team to the end of year 2 has a total of 20740, more than 3000 ahead of any other year the game has been going: this seems to be an exceptional cohort. And Ray has 69.3% of that, which has only been bettered once.
Not all scores are high though: there were 3 riders that we saw selected who haven't scored since, and two of the Collective Wisdom team are eligible for the cycle that is about to start.
Top riders on top 5 teams:
Outscoring the collective scores of Sheffield, Waerensjold and Gregoire by 560 might be a big ask of Van Gils, but the riders lower down each team's total might yet have a part to play.
Here is the spreadsheet: let's see how its data change over the remaining year.
The best possible team by 2023 scores:
| DE LIE Arnaud | 1715 pts | 24 teams |
| HEALY Ben | 1088 | 4 |
| AYUSO PESQUERA Juan | 1023 | 38 |
| GALL Felix | 967 | 1 |
| ZINGLE Axel | 880 | 9 |
| GREGOIRE Romain | 784 | 12 |
| WAERENSKJOLD Søren | 756 | 14 |
| VAN GILS Maxim | 636 | 13 |
| WELSFORD Sam | 636 | 0 |
| LAZKANO LOPEZ Oier | 615 | 2 |
| PENHOËT Paul | 591 | 2 |
| STRONG Corbin | 586 | 2 |
| UIJTDEBROEKS Cian | 574 | 25 |
| SHEFFIELD Magnus | 573 | 15 |
| MILAN Jonathan | 530 | 4 |
| MARTINEZ Lenny | 530 | 2 |
| VERNON Ethan | 529 | 22 |
| VAUQUELIN Kévin | 519 | 0 |
Only 2 unpicked riders, and one of them just squeaking in. 13 532 for the year had anyone picked them all
But no-one did, so these are the best scores for year 2 alone
| order in Year 2 | Yr 2 points | position at end of Yr 1 | Change in overall rank during the year | |
1 | Ray10 | 8417 | 1 | 0 |
2 | SafeBet | 7991 | 3 | 1 |
3 | Laarsland | 7797 | 2 | -1 |
4 | LosBrolin | 7650 | 6 | 2 |
5 | Nakazar | 7638 | 18 | 11 |
6 | Squire | 7590 | 5 | 0 |
7 | Berflamand | 7493 | 8 | 2 |
8 | DevilsElbow | 7450 | 13 | 5 |
9 | Greenedge | 7294 | 20 | 5 |
10 | Skidmark | 7215 | 10 | -1 |
11 | Bminchow | 7028 | 7 | -2 |
12 | Scrooll07 | 7017 | 9 | -3 |
13 | Comodoro | 7001 | 27 | 3 |
14 | JumboVismaFan | 6971 | 15 | 2 |
15 | Bonimenier | 6871 | 12 | -2 |
16 | Nathanptz | 6836 | 4 | -6 |
17 | EvansIsTheBest | 6808 | 24 | 2 |
18 | Nyssinator | 6726 | 23 | 3 |
19 | AmisVelo | 6563 | 22 | 3 |
20 | Madrazo | 6388 | 11 | -5 |
21 | Fivezzz | 6291 | 16 | -2 |
22 | Cordi | 6227 | 14 | -3 |
23 | Kazistuta | 5974 | 19 | -4 |
24 | Salvarani | 5919 | 17 | -4 |
25 | Del1962 | 5749 | 31 | 5 |
26 | Rufs | 5725 | 21 | -4 |
27 | Armchair_Cyclist | 5268 | 29 | 2 |
28 | EdkDeus | 5033 | 34 | 3 |
29 | RoteLaterne | 5004 | 26 | -2 |
30 | Vladimir | 4971 | 33 | 3 |
31 | Josedin | 4918 | 28 | -1 |
32 | RedheadDane | 4856 | 39 | 2 |
33 | Blues_in_the_Bottle | 4746 | 35 | 1 |
34 | JonEzeitza | 4727 | 32 | 0 |
35 | Koronin | 4715 | 37 | 1 |
36 | Repre | 4641 | 30 | -3 |
37 | Otoxiep87 | 4223 | 25 | -10 |
38 | LukasCPH | 3666 | 36 | -2 |
39 | Riverside | 3448 | 38 | -1 |
40 | Leadbelly | 2499 | 40 | 0 |
| CollectiveWisdom | 7123 | |||
| CollectiveIgnorance | 6122 | |||
| MainGame2022 | 6780 | |||
| Goodin2021 | 4212 |
Rider scores so far:
| DE LIE Arnaud | 3154 | 24 |
| AYUSO PESQUERA Juan | 2027 | 38 |
| ZINGLE Axel | 1607 | 9 |
| HEALY Ben | 1255 | 4 |
| GALL Felix | 1205 | 1 |
| SHEFFIELD Magnus | 1194 | 15 |
| VAUQUELIN Kévin | 1137 | 0 |
| VAN GILS Maxim | 972 | 13 |
| STRONG Corbin | 944 | 2 |
| WAERENSKJOLD Søren | 924 | 14 |
| GREGOIRE Romain | 892 | 12 |
| WELSFORD Sam | 835 | 0 |
| UIJTDEBROEKS Cian | 827 | 25 |
| PLAPP Lucas | 782 | 30 |
| LAZKANO LOPEZ Oier | 763 | 2 |
| DUJARDIN Sandy | 753 | 0 |
| VERNON Ethan | 746 | 22 |
| PENHOËT Paul | 723 | 2 |
De Lie has 3154 and still has a year to go. Since the game started, only Bernal, Pogacar and Evenepoel had more than that after 3 years. Cavendish, Quintana, Cungo, Sagan and Valverde can be added to that list if we go back to the beginning of CQ points. He needs 956 in 2024 to overtake Pogacar as the best scorer during the game, 1333 to overhaul Sagan for second including the pre-game scorers, and 1449 to be the most dramatically emerging rider (by the definition of this game) since CQ started (essentially, since 2000)
That best possible team to the end of year 2 has a total of 20740, more than 3000 ahead of any other year the game has been going: this seems to be an exceptional cohort. And Ray has 69.3% of that, which has only been bettered once.
Not all scores are high though: there were 3 riders that we saw selected who haven't scored since, and two of the Collective Wisdom team are eligible for the cycle that is about to start.
Top riders on top 5 teams:
| Ray10 | 14366 |
| |
| SafeBet | 13806 |
| |
| Laarsland | 13686 |
| |
| LosBrolin | 13361 |
| |
| Squire | 13354 |
|
Outscoring the collective scores of Sheffield, Waerensjold and Gregoire by 560 might be a big ask of Van Gils, but the riders lower down each team's total might yet have a part to play.
Here is the spreadsheet: let's see how its data change over the remaining year.
Him coming somewhat alive is about one full cycle of this game too late for me! I had him in the 2019-2021 and the 2020-2022 games, then I lost faith. Won't congratulate you for sticking with him though, because he has probably done you more harm than good in this edition of the game.
Year 3 Month 1 to 4th Feb
This ought to be the year in which our picks, if they are not doing so already, should be establishing the real level at which they can compete. Whether that is the level we hoped it would be in early 2022 is another matter.
However, they have been outscored by (presumably younger) equivalents in the for update for the year. Hopefully that means that they are building their calendars around more auspicious races.
And the final lap has started for us like this:
All the riders on Evans' team seem to have been at the same, particularly good, New Year's Eve party.
Standings
January scores are probably not typical, but SafeBet took back 332 points this month, leaving the gap at 228, and suggesting that we still have a race on our hands, despite Ray's stranglehold thus far.
This ought to be the year in which our picks, if they are not doing so already, should be establishing the real level at which they can compete. Whether that is the level we hoped it would be in early 2022 is another matter.
However, they have been outscored by (presumably younger) equivalents in the for update for the year. Hopefully that means that they are building their calendars around more auspicious races.
| PITHIE Laurence | 251 | 5 | CEGORR win, Surf Road 5th, stage pts in TDU |
| PLAPP Lucas | 168 | 30 | Won both titles in Aus Nats |
| STRONG Corbin | 147 | 2 (JVF, RhD) | 4th in CEGORR, 3rd in Surf race, 2nd in TDU stage |
| O'BRIEN Kelland | 102 | 2 (Del1962, Lukas CPH) | 3rd in Aus NC RR, 4th in TT, 12th in CEGOGG |
| PARET PEINTRE Valentin | 92 | 3 | GC 8th in TDU |
| SANCHEZ MAYO Pelayo | 85 | 1 (Koronin) | |
| MAYRHOFER Marius | 72 | 4 | |
| OSORIO CARVAJAL Alejandro | 66 | 2 | |
| HEALY Ben | 59 | 4 | |
| FRETIN Milan | 56 | 1(Leadbelly) | |
| MIQUEL DELGADO Pau | 56 | 1 (Koronin) | |
| ROMO OLIVER Javier | 53 | 19 | |
| SCARONI Christian | 52 | 1 (Otoxiep) | |
| VAN UDEN Casper | 50 | 2 |
And the final lap has started for us like this:
| 1 | SafeBet | 591 | |
| 2 | DevilsElbow | 501 | |
| 3 | Nakazar | 463 | |
| 4 | Del1962 | 440 | |
| 5 | LosBrolin | 439 | |
| 6 | LukasCPH | 388 | |
| 7 | Comodoro | 370 | |
| 8 | Greenedge | 358 | |
| 9 | JumboVismaFan | 351 | |
| 10 | RoteLaterne | 342 | |
| 11 | Repre | 338 | |
| 12 | Armchair_Cyclist | 331 | |
| 13 | Otoxiep87 | 302 | |
| 14 | Blues_in_the_Bottle | 295 | |
| 15 | Nyssinator | 291 | |
| 16 | Scrooll07 | 278 | |
| 17 | Riverside | 273 | |
| 18 | Cordi | 270 | |
| 19 | AmisVelo | 265 | |
| 20 | Ray10 | 259 | |
| 20 | RedheadDane | 259 | |
| 22 | Madrazo | 258 | |
| 23 | Squire | 255 | |
| 24 | Koronin | 254 | |
| 25 | Rufs | 253 | |
| 26 | Bminchow | 241 | |
| 27 | Laarsland | 234 | |
| 28 | Fivezzz | 231 | |
| 29 | Bonimenier | 218 | |
| 30 | Kazistuta | 193 | |
| 31 | Nathanptz | 189 | |
| 32 | Berflamand | 183 | |
| 33 | Josedin | 173 | |
| 34 | Leadbelly | 160 | |
| 35 | EdkDeus | 123 | |
| 36 | Vladimir | 120 | |
| 37 | JonEzeitza | 118 | |
| 38 | Skidmark | 74 | |
| 39 | Salvarani | 32 | |
| 40 | EvansIsTheBest | 10 | |
| CollectiveWisdom | 260 | ||
| CollectiveIgnorance | 896 | Welsford, Onley, Lemmen and Vauquelin all >100 | |
| MainGame2022 | 183 | ||
| Goodin2021 | 191 |
All the riders on Evans' team seem to have been at the same, particularly good, New Year's Eve party.
Standings
January scores are probably not typical, but SafeBet took back 332 points this month, leaving the gap at 228, and suggesting that we still have a race on our hands, despite Ray's stranglehold thus far.
1 | Ray10 | 14625 | 0 |
2 | SafeBet | 14397 | 0 |
3 | Laarsland | 13920 | 0 |
4 | LosBrolin | 13800 | 0 |
5 | Squire | 13609 | 0 |
6 | Nakazar | 13246 | 1 |
7 | DevilsElbow | 13240 | 1 |
8 | Berflamand | 13179 | -2 |
9 | Bminchow | 12863 | 0 |
10 | Nathanptz | 12792 | 0 |
11 | Scrooll07 | 12704 | 1 |
12 | Skidmark | 12669 | -1 |
13 | JumboVismaFan | 12562 | 0 |
14 | Greenedge | 12495 | 1 |
15 | Bonimenier | 12424 | -1 |
16 | Madrazo | 12021 | 0 |
17 | Cordi | 11763 | 0 |
18 | Fivezzz | 11721 | 0 |
19 | Nyssinator | 11510 | 1 |
20 | AmisVelo | 11486 | -1 |
21 | Kazistuta | 11190 | 2 |
22 | Salvarani | 11139 | -1 |
23 | Comodoro | 11080 | 1 |
24 | EvansIsTheBest | 11045 | -2 |
25 | Rufs | 10698 | 0 |
26 | Del1962 | 9731 | 0 |
27 | Armchair_Cyclist | 9159 | 0 |
28 | RoteLaterne | 9096 | 0 |
29 | Josedin | 8765 | 0 |
30 | Vladimir | 8566 | 0 |
31 | Repre | 8530 | 2 |
32 | EdkDeus | 8505 | -1 |
33 | Blues_in_the_Bottle | 8363 | 1 |
34 | JonEzeitza | 8322 | -2 |
35 | Otoxiep87 | 8315 | 0 |
36 | Koronin | 8159 | 0 |
37 | RedheadDane | 8011 | 0 |
38 | LukasCPH | 7258 | 0 |
39 | Riverside | 6673 | 0 |
40 | Leadbelly | 4312 | 0 |
| CollectiveWisdom | 13245 | ||
| CollectiveIgnorance | 10438 | ||
| MainGame2022 | 12469 | ||
| Goodin2021 | 8351 |
Year 3, month 2 to 3rd March
Rather differing permutations of riders in the teams at the top this time around, but a good boost for those that went early on Lenny Martinez.
Evans' was the lowest scoring team last time, the highest this time: youth are fickle.
Standings
SafeBet is a couple of hundred points closer to Ray than the last time I put up the table: only 26 between them now. Game on!
| MARTINEZ Lenny | 358 | 2(Berflammand, Evans itB) | Var win, Camiño 2nd, Laigueglia win, Strade 8th |
| AYUSO PESQUERA Juan | 294 | 38 | Ardeche win, Drome 2nd, Laigueglia 3rd |
| VAN GILS Maxim | 255 | 13 | Andalucia farce win, Strade 3rd, Drome 3rd, Ardeche 5th |
| GREGOIRE Romain | 155 | 12 | Ardeche 2nd, Alpes Maritimes 7th |
| LAZKANO LOPEZ Oier | 151 | 2(Koronin, Otoxiep) | Jaen win, KBK 3rd |
| LAMPERTI Luke | 131 | 1(Devil's Elbow) | |
| SCARONI Christian | 130 | 1(Otoxiep) | |
| VERMAERKE Kevin | 124 | 6 | |
| HEALY Ben | 113 | 4 | |
| ZINGLE Axel | 110 | 9 |
Rather differing permutations of riders in the teams at the top this time around, but a good boost for those that went early on Lenny Martinez.
Evans' was the lowest scoring team last time, the highest this time: youth are fickle.
| 1 | EvansIsTheBest | 1366 | Martinez, Ayuso, Van Gils, Gregoire, Zingle |
| 2 | Comodoro | 1232 | Ayuso, Van Gils, Gregoire, Vermaerke, Healy |
| 3 | Berflamand | 1092 | Martinez, Ayuso, Gregoire |
| 4 | SafeBet | 1019 | Ayuso, Van Gils, Zingle |
| 5 | Nathanptz | 996 | |
| 6 | Armchair_Cyclist | 942 | |
| 7 | LosBrolin | 902 | |
| 7 | Salvarani | 902 | |
| 9 | Bminchow | 897 | |
| 10 | Scrooll07 | 872 | |
| 11 | Rufs | 862 | |
| 12 | Laarsland | 833 | |
| 13 | DevilsElbow | 821 | |
| 14 | Ray10 | 817 | |
| 15 | JonEzeitza | 807 | |
| 16 | Otoxiep87 | 800 | |
| 17 | Nakazar | 799 | |
| 18 | Skidmark | 796 | |
| 19 | Greenedge | 786 | |
| 20 | RedheadDane | 783 | |
| 21 | EdkDeus | 779 | |
| 22 | Josedin | 760 | |
| 23 | JumboVismaFan | 759 | |
| 24 | Repre | 745 | |
| 25 | Squire | 724 | |
| 26 | Del1962 | 720 | |
| 27 | Nyssinator | 697 | |
| 28 | Madrazo | 685 | |
| 29 | Koronin | 682 | |
| 30 | Kazistuta | 678 | |
| 31 | Fivezzz | 652 | |
| 32 | Blues_in_the_Bottle | 621 | |
| 33 | AmisVelo | 601 | |
| 34 | Vladimir | 592 | |
| 35 | Bonimenier | 576 | |
| 36 | Cordi | 555 | |
| 37 | Riverside | 537 | |
| 38 | RoteLaterne | 436 | |
| 39 | LukasCPH | 345 | |
| 40 | Leadbelly | 326 | |
| CollectiveWisdom | 652 | ||
| CollectiveIgnorance | 698 | ||
| MainGame2022 | 647 | ||
| Goodin2021 | 809 |
Standings
SafeBet is a couple of hundred points closer to Ray than the last time I put up the table: only 26 between them now. Game on!
1 | Ray10 | 15442 | 0 |
2 | SafeBet | 15416 | 0 |
3 | Laarsland | 14753 | 0 |
4 | LosBrolin | 14702 | 0 |
5 | Squire | 14333 | 0 |
6 | Berflamand | 14271 | 2 |
7 | DevilsElbow | 14061 | 0 |
8 | Nakazar | 14045 | -2 |
9 | Nathanptz | 13788 | 1 |
10 | Bminchow | 13760 | -1 |
11 | Scrooll07 | 13576 | 0 |
12 | Skidmark | 13465 | 0 |
13 | JumboVismaFan | 13321 | 0 |
14 | Greenedge | 13281 | 0 |
15 | Bonimenier | 13000 | 0 |
16 | Madrazo | 12706 | 0 |
17 | EvansIsTheBest | 12411 | 7 |
18 | Fivezzz | 12373 | 0 |
19 | Cordi | 12318 | -2 |
20 | Comodoro | 12312 | 3 |
21 | Nyssinator | 12207 | -2 |
22 | AmisVelo | 12087 | -2 |
23 | Salvarani | 12041 | -1 |
24 | Kazistuta | 11868 | -3 |
25 | Rufs | 11560 | 0 |
26 | Del1962 | 10451 | 0 |
27 | Armchair_Cyclist | 10101 | 0 |
28 | RoteLaterne | 9532 | 0 |
29 | Josedin | 9525 | 0 |
30 | EdkDeus | 9284 | 2 |
31 | Repre | 9275 | 0 |
32 | Vladimir | 9158 | -2 |
33 | JonEzeitza | 9129 | 1 |
34 | Otoxiep87 | 9115 | 1 |
35 | Blues_in_the_Bottle | 8984 | -2 |
36 | Koronin | 8841 | 0 |
37 | RedheadDane | 8794 | 0 |
38 | LukasCPH | 7603 | 0 |
39 | Riverside | 7210 | 0 |
40 | Leadbelly | 4638 | 0 |
| CollectiveWisdom | 13897 | ||
| CollectiveIgnorance | 11104 | ||
| MainGame2022 | 13116 | ||
| Goodin2021 | 9160 |
Last edited:
In December, I wrote
They have 6 riders in common (5 of whom are fairly necessary to be high in the table: De Lie, Ayuso, Zingle, Plapp, Uijtdebroecks, and the sixth of whom, Romo, has been a popular disappointment), so the guys who make a difference are:
Who will be the big 2024 scorers among these to determine the result (or am I underestimating the teams that are behind)?
Well 534 points of the gap between the top two have been wiped out already since then, and Ray and SafeBet now find themselves nearly 700 points clear of the rest
They have 6 riders in common (5 of whom are fairly necessary to be high in the table: De Lie, Ayuso, Zingle, Plapp, Uijtdebroecks, and the sixth of whom, Romo, has been a popular disappointment), so the guys who make a difference are:
| Ray10 | Safebet |
| SHEFFIELD Magnus | VAN GILS Maxim |
| GREGOIRE Romain | PITHIE Laurence |
| WAERENSKJOLD Søren | VERNON Ethan |
| FERRON Valentin | MILAN Jonathan |
| TURNER Ben | PICCOLO Andrea |
| ASKEY Lewis | TIBERI Antonio |
| DVERSNES Fredrik | NYS Thibau |
| HAGENES Per Strand | BARONCINI Filippo |
| STAUNE-MITTET Johannes | LIPOWITZ Florian |
| HELLEMOSE Asbjørn | BRENNER Marco |
| LÜHRS Luis-Joe | OSORIO CARVAJAL Alejandro |
| PIDCOCK Joseph | UMBA LOPEZ Abner Santiago |
Who will be the big 2024 scorers among these to determine the result (or am I underestimating the teams that are behind)?
Year 3 Month 3 4th to 31st March
Standings
The monthly win by a healthy margin for SafeBet, and Ray's 23 month reign as leader is over.
Pressure switches to the left hand column of post 110 above
| AYUSO PESQUERA Juan | 385 pts | 38 teams | 2nd in GC, 2 stages and both minors at T-Adriatico, plus st win and leader's |
| MILAN Jonathan | 347 | 4 | 2 stages, st 2nd and Pts comp at T_Adriatico, 5th in Gent-Wev, 7th in Dwars |
| PLAPP Lucas | 172 | 30 | St 2nd, GC 6th in Paris-Nice |
| VAN GILS Maxim | 168 | 13 | Milan-San Remo 7th, GP Indurain 2nd |
| LAPEIRA Paul | 167 | 3 | wins in Loire Atlantique and Cholet |
| SHEFFIELD Magnus | 149 | 15 | |
| DE LIE Arnaud | 120 | 24 | |
| PITHIE Laurence | 119 | 5 | |
| TIBERI Antonio | 106 | 22 | |
| UIJTDEBROEKS Cian | 103 | 25 |
| 1 | SafeBet | 1653 | Ayuso, Milan, Plapp, Van Gils, De Lie, Pithie, Tiberi, Uijjtdebroeks |
| 2 | Greenedge | 1544 | Ayuso, Milan, Plapp, Van Gils, De Lie, Tiberi |
| 3 | Laarsland | 1452 | Ayuso, Milan, Plapp, Sheffield De Lie, Uijjtdebroeks |
| 4 | LosBrolin | 1431 | Ayuso, Plapp, Sheffield, De Lie, Pithie, Tiberi, Uijjtdebroeks |
| 5 | Bminchow | 1365 | Ayuso, Plapp, Van Gils, Sheffield, De Lie, Tiberi, Uijjtdebroeks |
| 6 | Comodoro | 1302 | |
| 7 | Nathanptz | 1289 | |
| 8 | Vladimir | 1247 | |
| 9 | Nakazar | 1234 | |
| 10 | Ray10 | 1206 | |
| 11 | Salvarani | 1177 | |
| 12 | JumboVismaFan | 1168 | |
| 13 | Berflamand | 1164 | |
| 14 | Rufs | 1149 | |
| 15 | DevilsElbow | 1132 | |
| 16 | Skidmark | 1129 | |
| 17 | Scrooll07 | 1115 | |
| 18 | Kazistuta | 1114 | |
| 19 | Repre | 1095 | |
| 20 | Madrazo | 1089 | |
| 21 | EvansIsTheBest | 1081 | |
| 22 | Del1962 | 1080 | |
| 23 | Squire | 1078 | |
| 24 | AmisVelo | 1071 | |
| 25 | Bonimenier | 1064 | |
| 26 | Armchair_Cyclist | 1053 | |
| 27 | Cordi | 1049 | |
| 28 | Fivezzz | 1040 | |
| 29 | Josedin | 1021 | |
| 30 | Blues_in_the_Bottle | 979 | |
| 31 | Nyssinator | 977 | |
| 32 | Otoxiep87 | 943 | |
| 33 | RoteLaterne | 883 | |
| 33 | JonEzeitza | 883 | |
| 35 | Riverside | 746 | |
| 36 | RedheadDane | 737 | |
| 37 | LukasCPH | 704 | |
| 38 | EdkDeus | 657 | |
| 39 | Koronin | 513 | |
| 40 | Leadbelly | 324 | |
| CollectiveWisdom | 1222 | ||
| CollectiveIgnorance | 777 | ||
| MainGame2022 | 1198 | ||
| Goodin2021 | 829 |
Standings
The monthly win by a healthy margin for SafeBet, and Ray's 23 month reign as leader is over.
1 | SafeBet | 17069 | 1 |
2 | Ray10 | 16648 | -1 |
3 | Laarsland | 16205 | 0 |
4 | LosBrolin | 16133 | 0 |
5 | Berflamand | 15435 | 1 |
6 | Squire | 15411 | -1 |
7 | Nakazar | 15279 | 1 |
8 | DevilsElbow | 15193 | -1 |
9 | Bminchow | 15125 | 1 |
10 | Nathanptz | 15077 | -1 |
11 | Greenedge | 14825 | 3 |
12 | Scrooll07 | 14691 | -1 |
13 | Skidmark | 14594 | -1 |
14 | JumboVismaFan | 14489 | -1 |
15 | Bonimenier | 14064 | 0 |
16 | Madrazo | 13795 | 0 |
17 | Comodoro | 13614 | 3 |
18 | EvansIsTheBest | 13492 | -1 |
19 | Fivezzz | 13413 | -1 |
20 | Cordi | 13367 | -1 |
21 | Salvarani | 13218 | 2 |
22 | Nyssinator | 13184 | -1 |
23 | AmisVelo | 13158 | -1 |
24 | Kazistuta | 12982 | 0 |
25 | Rufs | 12709 | 0 |
26 | Del1962 | 11531 | 0 |
27 | Armchair_Cyclist | 11154 | 0 |
28 | Josedin | 10546 | 1 |
29 | RoteLaterne | 10415 | -1 |
30 | Vladimir | 10405 | 2 |
31 | Repre | 10370 | 0 |
32 | Otoxiep87 | 10058 | 2 |
33 | JonEzeitza | 10012 | 0 |
34 | Blues_in_the_Bottle | 9963 | 1 |
35 | EdkDeus | 9941 | -5 |
36 | RedheadDane | 9531 | 1 |
37 | Koronin | 9354 | -1 |
38 | LukasCPH | 8307 | 0 |
39 | Riverside | 7956 | 0 |
40 | Leadbelly | 4962 | 0 |
| CollectiveWisdom | 15119 | ||
| CollectiveIgnorance | 11841 | ||
| MainGame2022 | 14314 | ||
| Goodin2021 | 9989 |
Year 3 Month 4 1-18 April (so a few days old by now: no Frankfurt)
Standings
Safebet almost doubles his lead, with top score in a month in which Ray had a rather mediocre performance. Los Brolin gets back onto the podium he left about a year ago.
| AYUSO PESQUERA Juan | 430 | 38 | Itzulia win, Romandie 5th |
| VAN GILS Maxim | 293 | 13 | Fleche 3rd, LBL 4th, Famenne 3rd |
| MARTINEZ Lenny | 260 | 2 | Besancon and Tour de Doubs wins, Romandie 8th |
| LIPOWITZ Florian | 210 | 1 | Romandie 3rd |
| LAPEIRA Paul | 175 | 3 | Itzulia stage win, AGR 5th, LBL 11th |
| GREGOIRE Romain | 173 | 12 | Itzulia stage win, AGR 12th, Fleche 7th |
| TIBERI Antonio | 127 | 22 | Tour of the Alps 3rd |
| WAERENSKJOLD Søren | 116 | 14 | |
| BERTHET Clément | 109 | 4 | |
| LUND ANDRESEN Tobias | 101 | 1 |
| 1 | SafeBet | 1426 | Ayuso, Van Gils, Lipowitz, Tiberi |
| 2 | EvansIsTheBest | 1384 | Ayuso, Van Gils, Martinez, Gregoire |
| 3 | Nathanptz | 1285 | Ayuso, Van Gils, Lapeira, Gregoire |
| 4 | Comodoro | 1251 | Ayuso, Van Gils, Gregoire |
| 5 | Salvarani | 1186 | |
| 6 | Repre | 1184 | |
| 7 | Greenedge | 1182 | |
| 8 | LosBrolin | 1178 | |
| 9 | Scrooll07 | 1145 | |
| 10 | Nakazar | 1141 | |
| 11 | Berflamand | 1136 | |
| 12 | JonEzeitza | 1089 | |
| 13 | Squire | 1063 | |
| 14 | Nyssinator | 1042 | |
| 15 | Bminchow | 1041 | |
| 16 | Rufs | 1036 | |
| 17 | Ray10 | 1026 | |
| 18 | Skidmark | 1010 | |
| 19 | DevilsElbow | 1004 | |
| 20 | RedheadDane | 994 | |
| 21 | Del1962 | 991 | |
| 22 | Bonimenier | 936 | |
| 23 | EdkDeus | 897 | |
| 24 | Armchair_Cyclist | 882 | |
| 25 | Madrazo | 863 | |
| 26 | Cordi | 857 | |
| 26 | AmisVelo | 857 | |
| 28 | Laarsland | 850 | |
| 29 | Fivezzz | 832 | |
| 29 | Kazistuta | 832 | |
| 31 | RoteLaterne | 816 | |
| 32 | JumboVismaFan | 786 | |
| 33 | Josedin | 752 | |
| 34 | Vladimir | 744 | |
| 35 | Blues_in_the_Bottle | 706 | |
| 36 | Otoxiep87 | 667 | |
| 37 | LukasCPH | 610 | |
| 38 | Riverside | 503 | |
| 39 | Koronin | 349 | |
| 40 | Leadbelly | 88 | |
| CollectiveWisdom | 872 | ||
| CollectiveIgnorance | 1220 | ||
| MainGame2022 | 853 | ||
| Goodin2021 | 1028 |
Standings
Safebet almost doubles his lead, with top score in a month in which Ray had a rather mediocre performance. Los Brolin gets back onto the podium he left about a year ago.
1 | SafeBet | 18495 | 0 |
2 | Ray10 | 17674 | 0 |
3 | LosBrolin | 17311 | 1 |
4 | Laarsland | 17055 | -1 |
5 | Berflamand | 16571 | 0 |
6 | Squire | 16474 | 0 |
7 | Nakazar | 16420 | 0 |
8 | Nathanptz | 16362 | 2 |
9 | DevilsElbow | 16197 | -1 |
10 | Bminchow | 16166 | -1 |
11 | Greenedge | 16007 | 0 |
12 | Scrooll07 | 15836 | 0 |
13 | Skidmark | 15604 | 0 |
14 | JumboVismaFan | 15275 | 0 |
15 | Bonimenier | 15000 | 0 |
16 | EvansIsTheBest | 14876 | 2 |
17 | Comodoro | 14865 | 0 |
18 | Madrazo | 14658 | -2 |
19 | Salvarani | 14404 | 2 |
20 | Fivezzz | 14245 | -1 |
21 | Nyssinator | 14226 | 1 |
22 | Cordi | 14224 | -2 |
23 | AmisVelo | 14015 | 0 |
24 | Kazistuta | 13814 | 0 |
25 | Rufs | 13745 | 0 |
26 | Del1962 | 12522 | 0 |
27 | Armchair_Cyclist | 12036 | 0 |
28 | Repre | 11554 | 3 |
29 | Josedin | 11298 | -1 |
30 | RoteLaterne | 11231 | -1 |
31 | Vladimir | 11149 | -1 |
32 | JonEzeitza | 11101 | 1 |
33 | EdkDeus | 10838 | 2 |
34 | Otoxiep87 | 10725 | -2 |
35 | Blues_in_the_Bottle | 10669 | -1 |
36 | RedheadDane | 10525 | 0 |
37 | Koronin | 9703 | 0 |
38 | LukasCPH | 8917 | 0 |
39 | Riverside | 8459 | 0 |
40 | Leadbelly | 5050 | 0 |
| CollectiveWisdom | 15991 | ||
| CollectiveIgnorance | 12758 | ||
| MainGame2022 | 15167 | ||
| Goodin2021 | 11017 |
Year 3 Month 5 29 April - 26 May
Two jersey winners from this month's Giro among the top guys this time, and a couple of other stage winners too. And although most national championship events are a month or so away, we have a new one of those jerseys in here too.
A huge winning margin for SafeBet, third monthly win in a row.
Standings
Having appeared almost unassailable for so long, Ray can now no longer even hang on to second as Laarsland leapfrogs both him and Los Brolin. SafeBet meanwhile continues his amazing year 3 pace, and looks well on his way to a two in a row. Pleanty of competition for the places below him though, as shown by the rather volatile placings in the lower top ten.
Interforum challenge, too long unreported:
CN 15415
EP 13718
VR 12121
Two jersey winners from this month's Giro among the top guys this time, and a couple of other stage winners too. And although most national championship events are a month or so away, we have a new one of those jerseys in here too.
| MILAN Jonathan | 465 | 4 | 3 stages and 4 2nds, plus ciclamino, in the Giro. |
| ZINGLE Axel | 357 | 9 | Morbihan 2nd, Wallonie 2nd, Finisterre 4th, l'Aulne win, Mayenne 3rd |
| DE LIE Arnaud | 352 | 24 | Wallonie and Tro-Bro wins, Morbihan and Limburg 3rd, Antwerp 4th |
| TIBERI Antonio | 322 | 22 | Giro 5th with pts from 7 stage top tens |
| NYS Thibau | 294 | 12 | 2 stages and GC win in Tour of Hungary |
| PENHOËT Paul | 241 | 2 | 2nd in Dunquerque, 4th in Wallonie, 9th in Mayenne |
| PARET PEINTRE Valentin | 198 | 3 | Stage win and 2nd, 16th on GC in Giro |
| STEINHAUSER Georg | 183 | 15 | stage win and 2 3rds, pluss Kom 3rd and GC pts in Giro |
| VAN GILS Maxim | 180 | 13 | Frankfurt win |
| FRETIN Milan | 147 | 1 | |
| GUDMESTAD Tord | 140 | 3 | |
| SANCHEZ MAYO Pelayo | 136 | 1 | |
| DVERSNES Fredrik | 101 | 1 | |
| VERMAERKE Kevin | 100 | 6 | |
| VAN UDEN Casper | 100 | 2 | |
| QUINN Sean | 100 | 8 |
A huge winning margin for SafeBet, third monthly win in a row.
| 1 | SafeBet | 2211 | Milan, Zingle, De Lie, Tiberi, Nys, Van Gils |
| 2 | Laarsland | 1769 | Milan, Zingle, De Lie, Steinhauser, Gudmestad |
| 3 | Greenedge | 1701 | Milan, De Lie, Tiberi, Van Gils, Gudmestad, Van Uden |
| 4 | DevilsElbow | 1691 | Zingle, De Lie, Tiberi, Nys, Steinhauser |
| 5 | Fivezzz | 1583 | Zingle, De Lie, Tiberi, Steinhauser, Quinn |
| 6 | Squire | 1570 | Zingle, De Lie, Tiberi, Nys |
| 7 | Madrazo | 1545 | |
| 8 | Vladimir | 1449 | |
| 9 | Scrooll07 | 1389 | |
| 10 | Salvarani | 1310 | |
| 11 | Bminchow | 1308 | |
| 12 | EvansIsTheBest | 1284 | |
| 13 | Nyssinator | 1239 | |
| 14 | Bonimenier | 1236 | |
| 15 | Nathanptz | 1207 | |
| 16 | Nakazar | 1197 | |
| 17 | JonEzeitza | 1195 | |
| 18 | LosBrolin | 1115 | |
| 19 | Rufs | 1108 | |
| 20 | Skidmark | 1106 | |
| 21 | Cordi | 1095 | |
| 22 | AmisVelo | 1086 | |
| 23 | Ray10 | 1037 | |
| 23 | Kazistuta | 1037 | |
| 25 | JumboVismaFan | 1006 | |
| 26 | Repre | 985 | |
| 27 | Berflamand | 908 | |
| 28 | Koronin | 884 | |
| 29 | Del1962 | 804 | |
| 30 | Comodoro | 740 | |
| 31 | RoteLaterne | 708 | |
| 32 | Blues_in_the_Bottle | 609 | |
| 33 | LukasCPH | 454 | |
| 34 | EdkDeus | 446 | |
| 35 | RedheadDane | 439 | |
| 36 | Armchair_Cyclist | 427 | |
| 37 | Josedin | 355 | |
| 38 | Otoxiep87 | 330 | |
| 39 | Leadbelly | 254 | |
| 40 | Riverside | 191 | |
| CollectiveWisdom | 1148 | ||
| CollectiveIgnorance | 1015 | ||
| MainGame2022 | 1258 | ||
| Goodin2021 | 941 |
Standings
Having appeared almost unassailable for so long, Ray can now no longer even hang on to second as Laarsland leapfrogs both him and Los Brolin. SafeBet meanwhile continues his amazing year 3 pace, and looks well on his way to a two in a row. Pleanty of competition for the places below him though, as shown by the rather volatile placings in the lower top ten.
1 | SafeBet | 20706 | 0 |
2 | Laarsland | 18824 | 2 |
3 | Ray10 | 18711 | -1 |
4 | LosBrolin | 18426 | -1 |
5 | Squire | 18044 | 1 |
6 | DevilsElbow | 17888 | 3 |
7 | Greenedge | 17708 | 4 |
8 | Nakazar | 17617 | -1 |
9 | Nathanptz | 17569 | -1 |
10 | Berflamand | 17479 | -5 |
11 | Bminchow | 17474 | -1 |
12 | Scrooll07 | 17225 | 0 |
13 | Skidmark | 16710 | 0 |
14 | JumboVismaFan | 16281 | 0 |
15 | Bonimenier | 16236 | 0 |
16 | Madrazo | 16203 | 2 |
17 | EvansIsTheBest | 16160 | -1 |
18 | Fivezzz | 15828 | 2 |
19 | Salvarani | 15714 | 0 |
20 | Comodoro | 15605 | -3 |
21 | Nyssinator | 15465 | 0 |
22 | Cordi | 15319 | 0 |
23 | AmisVelo | 15101 | 0 |
24 | Rufs | 14853 | 1 |
25 | Kazistuta | 14851 | -1 |
26 | Del1962 | 13326 | 0 |
27 | Vladimir | 12598 | 4 |
28 | Repre | 12539 | 0 |
29 | Armchair_Cyclist | 12463 | -2 |
30 | JonEzeitza | 12296 | 2 |
31 | RoteLaterne | 11939 | -1 |
32 | Josedin | 11653 | -3 |
33 | EdkDeus | 11284 | 0 |
34 | Blues_in_the_Bottle | 11278 | 1 |
35 | Otoxiep87 | 11055 | -1 |
36 | RedheadDane | 10964 | 0 |
37 | Koronin | 10587 | 0 |
38 | LukasCPH | 9371 | 0 |
39 | Riverside | 8650 | 0 |
40 | Leadbelly | 5304 | 0 |
| CollectiveWisdom | 17139 | ||
| CollectiveIgnorance | 13584 | ||
| MainGame2022 | 16425 | ||
| Goodin2021 | 11958 |
Interforum challenge, too long unreported:
CN 15415
EP 13718
VR 12121
Year 3 month 6 May 27 to July 7
Safe Bet's run of three wins comes to an end
Standings
Ray is back up to second, but unless Romain Gregoire jumps from his current 42nd to top ten in the Tour, closing the gap looks unlikely.
| WAERENSKJOLD Søren | 294 | 14 | Belgium Tour GC and stage win, Hageland 5th |
| DE LIE Arnaud | 273 | 24 | NC RR win, 3rd (twice) 4th and 5th in TdF stages |
| LAZKANO LOPEZ Oier | 216 | 2 (Koronin, Otoxiep) | Dauphine 9th, NC RR 2nd and TT 4th |
| LAPEIRA Paul | 150 | 3 (Del, Nathan, Salvarani) | NC RR win |
| VAN UDEN Casper | 137 | 2 (Comodoro, Greenedge) | Heistse Pijl 2nd, ZLM Tour 10th with 2 stage wins |
| RIVERA VARGAS Brandon Smith | 137 | 1 (Riverside) | 2nd in tour of Austria with stage win |
| NYS Thibau | 112 | 12 | |
| VAN GILS Maxim | 106 | 13 |
Safe Bet's run of three wins comes to an end
| 1 | Scrooll07 | 1098 | Waerenskjold, De Lie, Van Gils |
| 2 | Ray10 | 1094 | Waerenskjold, De Lie |
| 3 | Koronin | 1084 | De Lie, Lazkano |
| 4 | Squire | 1074 | Waerenskjold, De Lie |
| 5 | Nakazar | 1063 | Waerenskjold, De Lie, Nys |
| 6 | Bonimenier | 1019 | Waerenskjold, De Lie, Nys |
| 7 | Berflamand | 932 | |
| 8 | DevilsElbow | 930 | |
| 9 | JonEzeitza | 904 | |
| 10 | SafeBet | 900 | |
| 10 | AmisVelo | 900 | |
| 12 | Del1962 | 895 | |
| 13 | Cordi | 891 | |
| 14 | EdkDeus | 887 | |
| 15 | Salvarani | 883 | |
| 16 | Nathanptz | 879 | |
| 17 | Greenedge | 874 | |
| 18 | Skidmark | 808 | |
| 19 | Laarsland | 804 | |
| 20 | Bminchow | 796 | |
| 21 | Rufs | 790 | |
| 22 | Nyssinator | 786 | |
| 23 | LosBrolin | 785 | |
| 24 | Madrazo | 764 | |
| 25 | Comodoro | 743 | |
| 26 | EvansIsTheBest | 741 | |
| 27 | Fivezzz | 707 | |
| 28 | Kazistuta | 635 | |
| 29 | RedheadDane | 606 | |
| 30 | JumboVismaFan | 591 | |
| 31 | Armchair_Cyclist | 559 | |
| 32 | RoteLaterne | 532 | |
| 33 | Vladimir | 527 | |
| 34 | Otoxiep87 | 525 | |
| 35 | LukasCPH | 477 | |
| 36 | Repre | 445 | |
| 37 | Josedin | 406 | |
| 38 | Riverside | 394 | |
| 39 | Leadbelly | 313 | |
| 40 | Blues_in_the_Bottle | 275 | |
| CollectiveWisdom | 966 | ||
| CollectiveIgnorance | 1670 | ||
| MainGame2022 | 777 | ||
| Goodin2021 | 416 |
Standings
Ray is back up to second, but unless Romain Gregoire jumps from his current 42nd to top ten in the Tour, closing the gap looks unlikely.
1 | SafeBet | 21606 | 0 |
2 | Ray10 | 19805 | 1 |
3 | Laarsland | 19628 | -1 |
4 | LosBrolin | 19211 | 0 |
5 | Squire | 19118 | 0 |
6 | DevilsElbow | 18818 | 0 |
7 | Nakazar | 18680 | 1 |
8 | Greenedge | 18582 | -1 |
9 | Nathanptz | 18448 | 0 |
10 | Berflamand | 18411 | 0 |
11 | Scrooll07 | 18323 | 1 |
12 | Bminchow | 18270 | -1 |
13 | Skidmark | 17518 | 0 |
14 | Bonimenier | 17255 | 1 |
15 | Madrazo | 16967 | 1 |
16 | EvansIsTheBest | 16901 | 1 |
17 | JumboVismaFan | 16872 | -3 |
18 | Salvarani | 16597 | 1 |
19 | Fivezzz | 16535 | -1 |
20 | Comodoro | 16348 | 0 |
21 | Nyssinator | 16251 | 0 |
22 | Cordi | 16210 | 0 |
23 | AmisVelo | 16001 | 0 |
24 | Rufs | 15643 | 0 |
25 | Kazistuta | 15486 | 0 |
26 | Del1962 | 14221 | 0 |
27 | JonEzeitza | 13200 | 3 |
28 | Vladimir | 13125 | -1 |
29 | Armchair_Cyclist | 13022 | 0 |
30 | Repre | 12984 | -2 |
31 | RoteLaterne | 12471 | 0 |
32 | EdkDeus | 12171 | 1 |
33 | Josedin | 12059 | -1 |
34 | Koronin | 11671 | 3 |
35 | Otoxiep87 | 11580 | 0 |
36 | RedheadDane | 11570 | 0 |
37 | Blues_in_the_Bottle | 11553 | -3 |
38 | LukasCPH | 9848 | 0 |
39 | Riverside | 9044 | 0 |
40 | Leadbelly | 5617 | 0 |
| CollectiveWisdom | 18105 | ||
| CollectiveIgnorance | 15032 | ||
| MainGame2022 | 17202 | ||
| Goodin2021 | 12374 |
Last edited:
Year 3 Month 7 8th July to 11th August
I'm fairly sure that the Tour has never had less impact on year three in this game. (even including unpicked riders, 9th with 6th on a stage for Derek Gee is about as good as it got)
Leader in this month's scoring is a bit of a blast from the past: @Koronin, you still out there? In fact, second place @comodoro has been missing from games for a while as well. Hope you are both OK
Standings
Safebet's lead is now over 2000 points, and it is hard to see that being clawed back: it increased further this time, with his 4th place and 200 points more than those closest. Greenedge and Nathanptz were also in the top ten both this time around and in the overall going into it, Greenedge gaining one place.
I fear that the Vuelta will be kinder to the 2022-26 edition than to this one. We'll reconvene here in a few weeks to find out.
I'm fairly sure that the Tour has never had less impact on year three in this game. (even including unpicked riders, 9th with 6th on a stage for Derek Gee is about as good as it got)
| VERMAERKE Kevin | 260 | 6 | 4th Czech Tour, 3rd Arctic, 4th San Sebastian |
| STRONG Corbin | 179 | 2 (JVFan, RhD) | 2nd and stage pointsTour de Wallonie |
| LIPOWITZ Florian | 145 | 1 (Safebet) | Sibiu Tour win |
| HEALY Ben | 135 | 4 | 10th Olympic RR, 27th TdF |
| GALL Felix | 115 | 1 (Greednedge) | 14th in TdF |
| LAPEIRA Paul | 100 | 3 | Polynormande win |
| ROMO OLIVER Javier | 95 | 19 | |
| WANDAHL Frederik | 75 | 2 (Koronin, Salvarani) | |
| MURGUIALDAY ELORZA Jokin | 72 | 1 (Vladimir) | |
| BITTNER Pavel | 68 | 1 (JonE) | |
| UMBA LOPEZ Abner Santiago | 61 | 22 |
Leader in this month's scoring is a bit of a blast from the past: @Koronin, you still out there? In fact, second place @comodoro has been missing from games for a while as well. Hope you are both OK
| 1 | Koronin | 811 | Vermaerke, Romo, Wandahl |
| 2 | Comodoro | 728 | Vermaerke, Healy, Umba |
| 3 | JumboVismaFan | 644 | Vermaerke, Strong |
| 4 | SafeBet | 595 | Lipowitz, Romo, Umba |
| 5 | Kazistuta | 553 | Vermaerke |
| 6 | Josedin | 516 | |
| 7 | Del1962 | 471 | |
| 7 | Armchair_Cyclist | 471 | |
| 9 | Greenedge | 459 | |
| 10 | Nathanptz | 455 | |
| 11 | Otoxiep87 | 443 | |
| 12 | Blues_in_the_Bottle | 440 | |
| 13 | Cordi | 436 | |
| 14 | Madrazo | 421 | |
| 14 | JonEzeitza | 421 | |
| 16 | Squire | 416 | |
| 17 | RedheadDane | 414 | |
| 18 | EdkDeus | 406 | |
| 19 | Ray10 | 394 | |
| 20 | Salvarani | 387 | |
| 21 | DevilsElbow | 386 | |
| 21 | Fivezzz | 386 | |
| 23 | Nyssinator | 378 | |
| 24 | Skidmark | 374 | |
| 24 | AmisVelo | 374 | |
| 26 | EvansIsTheBest | 373 | |
| 27 | Vladimir | 361 | |
| 28 | Bonimenier | 356 | |
| 29 | Laarsland | 351 | |
| 30 | RoteLaterne | 345 | |
| 31 | Scrooll07 | 344 | |
| 32 | Repre | 342 | |
| 33 | Bminchow | 334 | |
| 34 | Berflamand | 331 | |
| 35 | LosBrolin | 325 | |
| 35 | Riverside | 325 | |
| 37 | Nakazar | 319 | |
| 38 | Rufs | 307 | |
| 39 | LukasCPH | 262 | |
| 40 | Leadbelly | 187 | |
| CollectiveWisdom | 411 | ||
| CollectiveIgnorance | 999 | ||
| MainGame2022 | 373 | ||
| Goodin2021 | 264 |
Standings
Safebet's lead is now over 2000 points, and it is hard to see that being clawed back: it increased further this time, with his 4th place and 200 points more than those closest. Greenedge and Nathanptz were also in the top ten both this time around and in the overall going into it, Greenedge gaining one place.
1 | SafeBet | 22201 | 0 |
2 | Ray10 | 20199 | 0 |
3 | Laarsland | 19979 | 0 |
4 | LosBrolin | 19536 | 0 |
5 | Squire | 19534 | 0 |
6 | DevilsElbow | 19204 | 0 |
7 | Greenedge | 19041 | 1 |
8 | Nakazar | 18999 | -1 |
9 | Nathanptz | 18903 | 0 |
10 | Berflamand | 18742 | 0 |
11 | Scrooll07 | 18667 | 0 |
12 | Bminchow | 18604 | 0 |
13 | Skidmark | 17892 | 0 |
14 | Bonimenier | 17611 | 0 |
15 | JumboVismaFan | 17516 | 2 |
16 | Madrazo | 17388 | -1 |
17 | EvansIsTheBest | 17274 | -1 |
18 | Comodoro | 17076 | 2 |
19 | Salvarani | 16984 | -1 |
20 | Fivezzz | 16921 | -1 |
21 | Cordi | 16646 | 1 |
22 | Nyssinator | 16629 | -1 |
23 | AmisVelo | 16375 | 0 |
24 | Kazistuta | 16039 | 1 |
25 | Rufs | 15950 | -1 |
26 | Del1962 | 14692 | 0 |
27 | JonEzeitza | 13621 | 0 |
28 | Armchair_Cyclist | 13493 | 1 |
29 | Vladimir | 13486 | -1 |
30 | Repre | 13326 | 0 |
31 | RoteLaterne | 12816 | 0 |
32 | EdkDeus | 12577 | 0 |
33 | Josedin | 12575 | 0 |
34 | Koronin | 12482 | 0 |
35 | Otoxiep87 | 12023 | 0 |
36 | Blues_in_the_Bottle | 11993 | 1 |
37 | RedheadDane | 11984 | -1 |
38 | LukasCPH | 10110 | 0 |
39 | Riverside | 9369 | 0 |
40 | Leadbelly | 5804 | 0 |
| CollectiveWisdom | 18516 | ||
| CollectiveIgnorance | 16004 | ||
| MainGame2022 | 17575 | ||
| Goodin2021 | 12638 |
I fear that the Vuelta will be kinder to the 2022-26 edition than to this one. We'll reconvene here in a few weeks to find out.
Except the two really big hitters Ayuso and De Lie, this must surely be a rather disappointing cycle of the game. Looking at both my own team and Safebet's, there are a lot of picks which never amounted to much.
I see that I have Tiberi for the Vuelta while two of the teams above me do not, so maybe there's an outside chance for me to sneak onto the podium with a good finish.
I see that I have Tiberi for the Vuelta while two of the teams above me do not, so maybe there's an outside chance for me to sneak onto the podium with a good finish.
Was funny reading this from January 2022! LVE would have been a very good pick, and I guess he is indeed on the collective ignorance team. But the others not so much. Watson maybe okay-ish. Good thing I didn't go with Petrucci, who retired one year later.
Sam Welsford was a good call (just sneaks into the top possible team of 18); Wirtgen, Delettre, Zoccarato or Hocevar (who all scored well in 2021 but within the 200 limit, none of them were selected) not so much: their combined total is less than Welsford's.
Year 3 Month 8 12 Aug to 8 Sept
This group, with a couppe of notable exceptions, had little involvement in the Vuelta compared to what might be expected of Year 3, but they were busy getting plenty of points elsewhere:
The likes of Segaert, Poole, Onley and Berckmoes, all in the Collective Ignorance team, would have given any team a decent boost.
1-2-3 this month are 1-2-3 overall, and 8 of the top nine this month were already in the top ten overall.
My guys seem to have taken a summer holiday.
Standings
Scoring in the pre-existing order necessarily means that gaps are extended at the top.
This is going to be the edition that breaks all the records: already far past the highest ever total (was 20191), could well be the biggest ever winning margin, likely to be the first repeat win/successful defence, and probably more.
And although not in the spreadsheet yet, the top tens for Brenner and Romo in Giro della Toscana the other day have given @SafeBet the first ever 10000 point season.
This group, with a couppe of notable exceptions, had little involvement in the Vuelta compared to what might be expected of Year 3, but they were busy getting plenty of points elsewhere:
| DE LIE Arnaud | 396 | 24 | Danmark Rundt GC win and stage points, Plouay 4th, Renewi stage and classification points |
| MILAN Jonathan | 304 | 4 | Deutschland and Renewi tours, 5 stage wins in all Bemer Classic 2nd |
| LIPOWITZ Florian | 228 | 1 (SafeBet) | GC 7th in Vuelta |
| WAERENSKJOLD Søren | 202 | 14 | Poitou win, Fourmies 3rd |
| ZINGLE Axel | 193 | 9 | Limousin GC 3rd, Bemer 6th |
| ZAMBANINI Edoardo | 174 | 2 (Edk Deus, Jon E) | |
| SHEFFIELD Magnus | 170 | 15 | |
| NYS Thibau | 169 | 12 | |
| BITTNER Pavel | 149 | 1 (Jon E) | |
| LAMPERTI Luke | 149 | 1 (Devil's Elbow) | |
| HAGENES Per Strand | 147 | 8 | |
| DVERSNES Fredrik | 127 | 1 | |
| GREGOIRE Romain | 124 | 12 | |
| LUND ANDRESEN Tobias | 124 | 1 |
1-2-3 this month are 1-2-3 overall, and 8 of the top nine this month were already in the top ten overall.
| 1 | SafeBet | 1529 | De Lie, Milan, Lipowitz, Zingle, Nys |
| 2 | Ray10 | 1521 | De Lie, Waerenskjold, Zingle, Sheffield, Hagenes, Dversnes, Gregoire |
| 3 | Laarsland | 1438 | De Lie, Milan, Zingle, Sheffield, Hagenes, Gregoire |
| 4 | DevilsElbow | 1294 | De Lie, Waerenskjold, Zingle, Nys,Lamperti |
| 5 | Bonimenier | 1174 | |
| 6 | Squire | 1142 | |
| 7 | Berflamand | 1102 | |
| 8 | Nakazar | 1085 | |
| 9 | LosBrolin | 1080 | |
| 10 | EdkDeus | 1040 | |
| 11 | Scrooll07 | 1007 | |
| 12 | Nyssinator | 994 | |
| 13 | Greenedge | 990 | |
| 14 | Cordi | 972 | |
| 15 | Koronin | 969 | |
| 16 | Nathanptz | 965 | |
| 17 | Skidmark | 964 | |
| 18 | JumboVismaFan | 947 | |
| 19 | Madrazo | 938 | |
| 20 | Vladimir | 867 | |
| 21 | EvansIsTheBest | 845 | |
| 22 | Fivezzz | 836 | |
| 23 | AmisVelo | 830 | |
| 24 | Bminchow | 817 | |
| 25 | JonEzeitza | 773 | |
| 26 | Kazistuta | 611 | |
| 27 | Rufs | 583 | |
| 28 | Salvarani | 567 | |
| 29 | Comodoro | 493 | |
| 30 | RoteLaterne | 460 | |
| 31 | Josedin | 453 | |
| 32 | Blues_in_the_Bottle | 394 | |
| 33 | Del1962 | 387 | |
| 34 | LukasCPH | 364 | |
| 35 | Repre | 363 | |
| 35 | RedheadDane | 363 | |
| 37 | Otoxiep87 | 327 | |
| 38 | Riverside | 320 | |
| 39 | Leadbelly | 293 | |
| 40 | Armchair_Cyclist | 266 | |
| CollectiveWisdom | 1012 | ||
| CollectiveIgnorance | 1352 | ||
| MainGame2022 | 1027 | ||
| Goodin2021 | 565 |
Standings
Scoring in the pre-existing order necessarily means that gaps are extended at the top.
1 | SafeBet | 23730 | 0 |
2 | Ray10 | 21720 | 0 |
3 | Laarsland | 21417 | 0 |
4 | Squire | 20676 | 1 |
5 | LosBrolin | 20616 | -1 |
6 | DevilsElbow | 20498 | 0 |
7 | Nakazar | 20084 | 1 |
8 | Greenedge | 20031 | -1 |
9 | Nathanptz | 19868 | 0 |
10 | Berflamand | 19844 | 0 |
11 | Scrooll07 | 19674 | 0 |
12 | Bminchow | 19421 | 0 |
13 | Skidmark | 18856 | 0 |
14 | Bonimenier | 18785 | 0 |
15 | JumboVismaFan | 18463 | 0 |
16 | Madrazo | 18326 | 0 |
17 | EvansIsTheBest | 18119 | 0 |
18 | Fivezzz | 17757 | 2 |
19 | Nyssinator | 17623 | 3 |
20 | Cordi | 17618 | 1 |
21 | Comodoro | 17569 | -3 |
22 | Salvarani | 17551 | -3 |
23 | AmisVelo | 17205 | 0 |
24 | Kazistuta | 16650 | 0 |
25 | Rufs | 16533 | 0 |
26 | Del1962 | 15079 | 0 |
27 | JonEzeitza | 14394 | 0 |
28 | Vladimir | 14353 | 1 |
29 | Armchair_Cyclist | 13759 | -1 |
30 | Repre | 13689 | 0 |
31 | EdkDeus | 13617 | 1 |
32 | Koronin | 13451 | 2 |
33 | RoteLaterne | 13276 | -2 |
34 | Josedin | 13028 | -1 |
35 | Blues_in_the_Bottle | 12387 | 1 |
36 | Otoxiep87 | 12350 | -1 |
37 | RedheadDane | 12347 | 0 |
38 | LukasCPH | 10474 | 0 |
39 | Riverside | 9689 | 0 |
40 | Leadbelly | 6097 | 0 |
| CollectiveWisdom | 19528 | ||
| CollectiveIgnorance | 17432 | ||
| MainGame2022 | 18602 | ||
| Goodin2021 | 13203 |
This is going to be the edition that breaks all the records: already far past the highest ever total (was 20191), could well be the biggest ever winning margin, likely to be the first repeat win/successful defence, and probably more.
And although not in the spreadsheet yet, the top tens for Brenner and Romo in Giro della Toscana the other day have given @SafeBet the first ever 10000 point season.
Arnaud de Lie has overtaken Pogacar and Bernal to be the highest scoring pick in the game's history, and is within 100 points of overhauling Valverde as the highest first three (main) years of those whose careers took off since CQ has been lodging points.
Juan Ayuso is just 6 points short of overtaking Evenepoel to be 4th in the game era (still behind not only Valverde, but also Sagan, Quintana, Cunego and Cavendish had the game started when CQ did)
Juan Ayuso is just 6 points short of overtaking Evenepoel to be 4th in the game era (still behind not only Valverde, but also Sagan, Quintana, Cunego and Cavendish had the game started when CQ did)
Every team that has been successful has had some riders who never hit the heights expected of them, but I don't think the numbers bear out your assertion.
Prior to this year, the highest winning score (as mentioned above) was 20191: SafeBet again, in the edition that finished last year (it was also the year with the highest Best Possible Score). De Lie and Ayuso, even as riders that could have been picked a year earlier, were top and 4th in the scoring ranks, so if we leave them out, the top remaining 16 (ie, the rest of the best possible selection) were
| SKJELMOSE JENSEN Mattias | 3011 |
| KOOIJ Olav | 2629 |
| RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos | 2204 |
| ZINGLE Axel | 1745 |
| JORGENSON Matteo | 1475 |
| BUITRAGO SANCHEZ Santiago | 1461 |
| ZANA Filippo | 1460 |
| SCHMID Mauro | 1458 |
| JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland | 1436 |
| ARENSMAN Thymen | 1416 |
| VAN WILDER Ilan | 1302 |
| HEALY Ben | 1288 |
| GALL Felix | 1245 |
| SHEFFIELD Magnus | 1213 |
| VINE Jay | 1192 |
| RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto | 1191 |
In the cycle coming towards its end, the top sixteen without those two is:
| ZINGLE Axel | 2452 |
| VAN GILS Maxim | 2004 |
| MILAN Jonathan | 1879 |
| VAUQUELIN Kévin | 1829 |
| SHEFFIELD Magnus | 1746 |
| HEALY Ben | 1740 |
| GALL Felix | 1664 |
| WAERENSKJOLD Søren | 1625 |
| STRONG Corbin | 1583 |
| GREGOIRE Romain | 1501 |
| MARTINEZ Lenny | 1473 |
| LAZKANO LOPEZ Oier | 1266 |
| VAN EETVELT Lennert | 1255 |
| PLAPP Lucas | 1205 |
| WELSFORD Sam | 1138 |
| TIBERI Antonio | 1119 |
SafeBet is at 71.5% of the maximum possible, well ahead of any previous winner, and last years 64.8% would have a score that Ray beats and Laarsland is very close to.
TRENDING THREADS
-
World Championships 2024: Men's Road Race (September 29)- Started by Devil's Elbow
- Replies: 2K
-
Women’s RR - World Championships 2024 (September 28)- Started by Samu Cuenca
- Replies: 320
-
Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread- Started by DNP-Old
- Replies: 28K
-
Teams & Riders The Great Big Cycling Transfers, Extensions, and Rumours Thread- Started by RedheadDane
- Replies: 10K
-
World Championship 2024 - Men's U23 Road Race: Uster-Zürich (173.5 km)
- Started by RedheadDane
- Replies: 280
-
World Championships 2024 - Men’s TT, September 22- Started by Berniece
- Replies: 424
-
Grand Prix Cycliste de Québec & Montréal 2024, one day classics, September 13 & 15- Started by Lequack
- Replies: 527
Facebook
Twitter
Instagram