2022 Tour de France CQ Game

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And the race is underway, and we have 38 teams. I haven't sent an acknowledgement to those that entered today, but they were all fine.

I had messed up my timings: "4 o'clock in Denmark, that's great, just starting at 5 as I get in from work". I normally know which way the clock goes. So I missed most of the significant action (but not the winning ride)

Among the team listings, keep an eye out for:
  • Jumbo Visma Fan being very loyal to a team (but not TJV),
  • Samu being very Francophile (if only the 8th man were Pierre Saguin),
  • the biggest investment in one rider ever seen in a CQ game by Yellow Knight, thus preventing Rote Laterne taking that record,
  • a couple of teams with Ganna whose hopes for the early lead look likely to be thwarted by Bicycle Boy,
  • Del 1962 and Carrick-on-Seine battling it out to name the oldest team in CQ history
 
Teams
Listed alphabetically, by price within teams, unique picks have asterisks

18 Valve
VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas
GROENEWEGEN Dylan
THOMAS Geraint
PIDCOCK Thomas
EWAN Caleb
SAGAN Peter
MØRKØV CHRISTENSEN Michael *
BAUER Jack *

Amis Velo
O'CONNOR Ben
HAIG Jack
PINOT Thibaut
THOMAS Geraint
EWAN Caleb
SAGAN Peter
BETTIOL Alberto
SOLER GIMENEZ Marc

Archie Boy
VLASOV Aleksandr
HAIG Jack
STORER Michael *
THOMAS Geraint
GUERREIRO Ruben Antonio Almeida
VERMEERSCH Florian *
ROLLAND Pierre
GRADEK Kamil *

Armchair Cyclist
VLASOV Aleksandr
HAIG Jack
THOMAS Geraint
CICCONE Giulio *
EWAN Caleb
SAGAN Peter
JUNGELS Bob
GOUGEARD Alexis

Bicycle Boy
VAN DER POEL Mathieu
GANNA Filippo
ASGREEN Kasper *
THOMAS Geraint
SAGAN Peter
LAMPAERT Yves *
MÜHLBERGER Gregor
JANSEN Amund Grøndahl

Blues in the Bottle
VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas
MAS NICOLAU Enric *
GROENEWEGEN Dylan
EWAN Caleb
JUNGELS Bob
WRIGHT Fred *
DUCHESNE Antoine
JANSEN Amund Grøndahl

Bminchow
VLASOV Aleksandr
MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe
THOMAS Geraint
EWAN Caleb
LEKNESSUND Andreas
BAGIOLI Andrea
SOLER GIMENEZ Marc
VAN MOER Brent

Bonimenier
CARUSO Damiano
GAUDU David
FUGLSANG Jakob
THOMAS Geraint
MEINTJES Louis
EWAN Caleb
KÄMNA Lennard
JUNGELS Bob

Carrick on Seine
MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe
BARDET Romain
GROENEWEGEN Dylan
FUGLSANG Jakob
THOMAS Geraint
SAGAN Peter
JUNGELS Bob
DEGENKOLB John

ChrisDK
O'CONNOR Ben
LAPORTE Christophe *
GROENEWEGEN Dylan
PINOT Thibaut
EWAN Caleb
LEKNESSUND Andreas
JORGENSON Matteo
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Gorka

Comodoro
VLASOV Aleksandr
BARDET Romain
THOMAS Geraint
LATOUR Pierre
CATTANEO Mattia
BETTIOL Alberto
JUNGELS Bob
GOOSSENS Kobe

Del 1962
MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe
CARUSO Damiano
PINOT Thibaut
THOMAS Geraint
MEINTJES Louis
KÄMNA Lennard
SAGAN Peter
FROOME Chris

DJSprtsch
GANNA Filippo
BARDET Romain
CORT NIELSEN Magnus
THOMAS Geraint
PIDCOCK Thomas
EWAN Caleb
JUNGELS Bob
MÜHLBERGER Gregor

DJW
VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas
O'CONNOR Ben
FUGLSANG Jakob
THOMAS Geraint
ROLLAND Pierre
BENNETT George
VAN MOER Brent
MÜHLBERGER Gregor

Evans is the Best
MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe
GAUDU David
FUGLSANG Jakob
PINOT Thibaut
URAN URAN Rigoberto
THOMAS Geraint
SCHACHMANN Maximilian
JANSEN Amund Grøndahl

Josedin
JAKOBSEN Fabio *
CARUSO Damiano
DAINESE Alberto *
THOMAS Geraint
SIMMONS Quinn *
KÄMNA Lennard
JORGENSON Matteo
JUUL JENSEN Christopher *

Jumbo Visma Fan
VAN DER POEL Mathieu
PHILIPSEN Jasper *
FUGLSANG Jakob
GOGL Michael
DILLIER Silvan
PLANCKAERT Edward *
VAN KEIRSBULCK Guillaume *
KRIEGER Alexander

Kazistuta
MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander
PINOT Thibaut
THOMAS Geraint
EWAN Caleb
SAGAN Peter
BETTIOL Alberto
FELLINE Fabio *

Laarsland
VLASOV Aleksandr
MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe
PINOT Thibaut
EWAN Caleb
SAGAN Peter
LEKNESSUND Andreas
VERMAERKE Kevin
EEKHOFF Nils

Leadbelly
YATES Adam
BARDET Romain
FUGLSANG Jakob
PINOT Thibaut
THOMAS Geraint
GUERREIRO Ruben Antonio Almeida
EWAN Caleb
TORRES BARCELO Albert *

Lecko
VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas
FUGLSANG Jakob
THOMAS Geraint
EWAN Caleb
LAFAY Victor
BETTIOL Alberto
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Gorka
ROLLAND Pierre

Los Brolin
VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas
MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe
THOMAS Geraint
GUERREIRO Ruben Antonio Almeida
SAGAN Peter
CASTROVIEJO NICOLAS Jonathan
KRIEGER Alexander
JANSEN Amund Grøndahl

Mellow Velo
O'CONNOR Ben
HAIG Jack
BARDET Romain
THOMAS Geraint
CATTANEO Mattia
EWAN Caleb
BENNETT George
MÜHLBERGER Gregor

Northerner
VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas
BARDET Romain
THOMAS Geraint
EWAN Caleb
SAGAN Peter
JORGENSON Matteo
ROLLAND Pierre
EEKHOFF Nils

Otoxiep87
VLASOV Aleksandr
HAIG Jack
CATTANEO Mattia
EWAN Caleb
SAGAN Peter
LAFAY Victor
SCHACHMANN Maximilian
GOOSSENS Kobe

Postman Hat
VAN DER POEL Mathieu
BARDET Romain
GROENEWEGEN Dylan
THOMAS Geraint
KÄMNA Lennard
SCHACHMANN Maximilian
GENIETS Kévin *
VAN MOER Brent

Redhead Dane
MADOUAS Valentin *
HONORE Mikkel Frølich *
CAPIOT Amaury *
KUSS Sepp *
WALSCHEID Maximilian *
GROSSSCHARTNER Felix *
EWAN Caleb
NAESEN Oliver *

Rote Laterne
ROGLIC Primoz *
EWAN Caleb
HALLER Marco *
SOLER GIMENEZ Marc
DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd *
BENNETT George
CASTROVIEJO NICOLAS Jonathan
DILLIER Silvan

Rufs
YATES Adam
HAIG Jack
PINOT Thibaut
URAN URAN Rigoberto
THOMAS Geraint
BISSEGGER Stefan
SCHACHMANN Maximilian
GOGL Michael

Salvarani

VAN DER POEL Mathieu
GAUDU David
HAIG Jack
PINOT Thibaut
LEKNESSUND Andreas
BENNETT George
EEKHOFF Nils
JANSEN Amund Grøndahl

Samu Cuenca
MARTIN Guillaume *
GAUDU David
PINOT Thibaut
LATOUR Pierre
SAGAN Peter
BOUCHARD Geoffrey *
PEREZ Anthony *
ROLLAND Pierre

Scrool07
O'CONNOR Ben
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander
HAIG Jack
THOMAS Geraint
EWAN Caleb
SAGAN Peter
FROOME Chris
JANSEN Amund Grøndahl

Search
CARUSO Damiano
LUTSENKO Alexey *
CORT NIELSEN Magnus
FUGLSANG Jakob
THOMAS Geraint
LATOUR Pierre
GESCHKE Simon *
LAFAY Victor

Titan 31
GAUDU David
BARDET Romain
FUGLSANG Jakob
THOMAS Geraint
GUERREIRO Ruben Antonio Almeida
EWAN Caleb
SAGAN Peter
SCHACHMANN Maximilian

TRiley36
O'CONNOR Ben
HAIG Jack
FUGLSANG Jakob
URAN URAN Rigoberto
THOMAS Geraint
SAGAN Peter
BAGIOLI Andrea
FROOME Chris

Vladimir
VLASOV Aleksandr
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander
GAUDU David
LATOUR Pierre
MOSCON Gianni *
DEGENKOLB John
GOUGEARD Alexis
JANSEN Amund Grøndahl

Yellow Knight
POGACAR Tadej *
HAMILTON Chris *
BJERG Mikkel *
DOULL Owain *
BENNETT George
VERMAERKE Kevin
DUCHESNE Antoine
JANSEN Amund Grøndahl

ZigZag Wanderer
O'CONNOR Ben
HAIG Jack
PINOT Thibaut
MEINTJES Louis
VERONA QUINTANILLA Carlos *
KRON Andreas Lorentz *
BISSEGGER Stefan
JUNGELS Bob
 
Major investments
Riders costing 700 points plus in our teams:

Pogacar: Yellow Knight

Roglic: Rote Laterne

Vingegaard with Mas: Blues in the Bottle
with O'Connor: DJW
with Martinez: Los Brolin
with Bardet: Northerner
alone: 18 Valve, Lecko

Van der Poel with Philipsen: Jumbo Visma Fan
with Gaudu and Haig: Salvarani
with Ganna: Bicycle Boy
with Bardet: Postman Hat

Vlasov with Martinez: Bminchow, Laarsland
with Quintana and Gaudu: Vladimir
with Haig: Archie Boy, Armchair Cyclist, Otoxiep87
with Bardet: Comodoro

Jakobsen with Caruso: Josedin

O'Connor with Quintana and Haig: Scrooll07
with Haig: Amis Velo, Triley36, ZigZag Wanderer
with Haig and Bardet: Mellow Velo
with Laporte: ChrisDK

Martinez with Quintana: Kazistuta
with Caruso: Del 1962
with Gaudu: Evans is the Best
with Bardet: Carrick on Seine

Yates with Haig: Rufs
with Bardet: Leadbelly

Martin with Gaudu: Samu Cuenca

Caruso with Gaudu: Bonimenier
only: Search

Gaudu with Bardet: Titan 31

Ganna with Bardet: DJSprtsch
 
Reactions: 18-Valve. (pithy)
Riders
95 of the 176 riders have been selected: 43 of them are unique picks, not listed here. The most popular pick is on 68% of teams, which is not particularly high compared to previous editions, but will still make his performance null in a lot of battles for places.

26 teams: THOMAS Geraint
19: EWAN Caleb
15: SAGAN Peter
11: PINOT Thibaut
10: FUGLSANG Jakob, HAIG Jack
8: BARDET Romain, JANSEN Amund Grøndahl
Those 8 make up the Collective Wisdom team, which would be comfortably within budget at 3713
7: JUNGELS Bob, MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe, O'CONNOR Ben, VLASOV Aleksandr
6: GAUDU David, VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas
5: BENNETT George, GROENEWEGEN Dylan, ROLLAND Pierre, SCHACHMANN Maximilian
4: BETTIOL Alberto, CARUSO Damiano, GUERREIRO Ruben Antonio Almeida, KÄMNA Lennard, LATOUR Pierre, LEKNESSUND Andreas, MÜHLBERGER Gregor, VAN DER POEL Mathieu
3: CATTANEO Mattia, EEKHOFF Nils, FROOME Chris, JORGENSON Matteo, LAFAY Victor, MEINTJES Louis, QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander, SOLER GIMENEZ Marc, URAN URAN Rigoberto, VAN MOER Brent
2: BAGIOLI Andrea, BISSEGGER Stefan, CASTROVIEJO NICOLAS Jonathan, CORT NIELSEN Magnus, DEGENKOLB John, DILLIER Silvan, DUCHESNE Antoine, GANNA Filippo, GOGL Michael, GOOSSENS Kobe, GOUGEARD Alexis, IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Gorka, KRIEGER Alexander, PIDCOCK Thomas, VERMAERKE Kevin, YATES Adam


There weren't too many affected by late covid withdrawals: of the teams who had Impey, most rejigged their team and Rufs said that he was happy with the default replacement of Gogl.

And I drove home suspecting that I would have to adjust loads of teams in response to messages taking TBV riders out for fear of disqualification, but no-one did that.
 
Popularity chart
26 points for Thomas (Geraint, not Benjamin or Pidcock), 1 for a unique pick. The Collective Wisdom team scores 107

Popularity scoreunique picks
1​
AmisVelo
95​
0​
2​
Titan31
93​
0​
3​
Scrooll07
91​
0​
4​
Armchair_Cyclist
87​
1​
5​
Kazistuta
86​
1​
6​
Northerner
85​
0​
7​
Mellow_Velo
82​
0​
8​
Leadbelly
81​
1​
9​
Carrick_on_Seine
80​
0​
10​
Bonimenier
79​
0​
11​
Evans_is_the_Best
76​
0​
11​
Triley36
76​
0​
13​
18Valve
75​
2​
13​
Lecko
75​
0​
15​
Del1962
73​
0​
16​
Bminchow
71​
0​
17​
DJSprtsch
70​
0​
17​
LosBrolin
70​
0​
19​
Laarsland
68​
0​
20​
DJW
66​
0​
21​
Otoxiep87
64​
0​
22​
BicycleBoy
61​
2​
22​
Comodoro
61​
0​
22​
Rufs
61​
0​
25​
PostmanHat
56​
1​
26​
ArchieBoy
55​
3​
27​
ChrisDK
52​
1​
28​
Salvarani
51​
0​
28​
Search
51​
2​
30​
BluesInTheBottle
49​
2​
31​
SamuCuenca
44​
3​
32​
ZigZagWanderer
42​
2​
33​
Josedin
41​
4​
34​
Rote_Laterne
34​
3​
35​
Vladimir
33​
1​
36​
RedheadDane
26​
7​
37​
JumboVismaFan
23​
3​
38​
Yellow_Knight
21​
4​

I need to go and visit my loopy mother-in-law: back later with today's opening scores, and any more data that jumps out at me.
 
Stage 1 Copenhagen Time Trial

Green points The stage points: these can't be lost even if the rider does not reach Paris.

ptsteams
LAMPAERT Yves
80​
1​
VAN AERT Wout
50​
0​
POGACAR Tadej
35​
1​
GANNA Filippo
25​
2​
VAN DER POEL Mathieu
15​
4​
PEDERSEN Mads
10​
0​
VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas
5​
6​
ROGLIC Primoz
3​
1​
MOLLEMA Bauke
2​
0​
TEUNS Dylan
1​
0​

Bicycle Boy has not only Lampaert, but Ganna and Van der Poel as well.
1​
BicycleBoy
120​
2​
Yellow_Knight
35​
3​
DJSprtsch
25​
4​
JumboVismaFan
15​
4​
PostmanHat
15​
4​
Salvarani
15​
7​
18Valve
5​
7​
BluesInTheBottle
5​
7​
DJW
5​
7​
Lecko
5​
7​
LosBrolin
5​
7​
Northerner
5​
13​
Rote_Laterne
3​

Yellow points
This includes the stage points, but also 20 points for the yellow jersey wearer on the next stage, and projected points based on current standings in the GC, points and KoM (once they hit some hills: no points in that yet)

1​
BicycleBoy
1640​
2​
DJSprtsch
897​
3​
PostmanHat
629​
4​
Yellow_Knight
590​
5​
18Valve
522​
6​
LosBrolin
502​
7​
BluesInTheBottle
496​
8​
Northerner
478​
9​
Salvarani
472​
10​
JumboVismaFan
460​
11​
Lecko
459​
12​
Comodoro
450​
13​
DJW
442​
14​
Bonimenier
430​
15​
Rote_Laterne
383​
16​
Armchair_Cyclist
379​
17​
Carrick_on_Seine
370​
18​
Search
361​
19​
Rufs
357​
20​
Del1962
343​
21​
Leadbelly
337​
22​
ArchieBoy
314​
23​
ZigZagWanderer
311​
24​
Otoxiep87
294​
25​
Bminchow
292​
26​
Mellow_Velo
289​
27​
Josedin
288​
28​
Evans_is_the_Best
280​
29​
Titan31
272​
30​
Kazistuta
254​
31​
Laarsland
242​
32​
Scrooll07
227​
33​
AmisVelo
226​
34​
Triley36
222​
35​
ChrisDK
221​
36​
Vladimir
213​
37​
RedheadDane
189​
38​
SamuCuenca
160​
Collective_Wisdom
237​

I still want to do a bit of tweaking on the spreadsheet: I'll share it some time tomorrow.
 
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I didn't include yesterday:
Team simiilarity
In the past I have sometimes had to ask teams to select a 9th rider because their teams are so similar, but nothing like the same amount of overlap between teams this year, perhaps because the lack of multiple obvious mid-market standout picks means there is a greater range of picks from the most and least expensive ends of the pricelist.

Riders that are in the Collective Wisdom team:
5: AmisVelo, Leadbelly, Scrooll07, Titan31
4: Armchair_Cyclist, Carrick_on_Seine, Evans_is_the_Best, Kazistuta, Mellow_Velo, Northerner, Triley36
3: 18Valve, BicycleBoy, Bonimenier, Del1962, DJSprtsch, Laarsland, Lecko, LosBrolin, Otoxiep87, Rufs, Salvarani
2: ArchieBoy, BluesInTheBottle, Bminchow, ChrisDK, Comodoro, DJW, PostmanHat, SamuCuenca, Search, ZigZagWanderer
1: Josedin, JumboVismaFan, RedheadDane, Rote_Laterne, Vladimir, Yellow_Knight

Most similar teams
5 shared riders:
Amis Velo & Kazistuta
Amis Velo & Scrooll07
Leadbelly & Titan 31
Scrooll07 & TRiley36
4:
18 Valve & Northern
Amis Velo & Armchair Cyclist
Amis Velo and Mellow Velo
Amis Velo & TRiley36
Armchair Cyclist & Otoxiep87
Armchair Cyclist & Scrooll07
Bminchow & Laarsland
Bonimenier & Del 1962
Bonimenier & Titan 31
Carrick-on-Seine & Titan 31
Del 1962 & Kazistuta
DJSprtsch & Mellow Velo
DJW & Lecko
DJW & Mellow Velo
Evans is the Best & Rufs
Evans is the Best & Titan 31
Kazistuta & Laarsland
Kazistuta & Scrooll07
Lecko & Northerner
Mellow Velo & Scrooll07
Northerner & Titan 31

And for the teams not yet mentioned, the teams they share most riders with (3 unless stated otherwise):
Archie Boy: Armchair Cyclist
Bicycle Boy: Los Brolin, Scrool07
Blues in the Bottle: 18 Valve
ChrisDK: Amis Velo, Laarsland
Comodoro: Armchair Cyclist, Carrick-on-Seine, DJSprtsch
Josedin: Bonimenier, Del1962
Jumbo Visma Fan: 15 teams with 1 rider (most commonly Fuglsang) shared
Los Brolin: 9 teams with 3 riders shared
Postman Hat: Carrick-on-Seine and Titan 31
Redhead Dane: 18 teams with whom she shares Ewan
Rote Laterne: Amis Velo, Bminchow and Mellow Velo (2 shared)
Salvarani: Evans is the Best and Laarsland
Samu Cuenca: 9 teams with 2 shared riders
Search: Bonimenier and Lecko
Vladimir: 6 teams with 2 shared
Yellow Knight: Blues in the Bottle and Salvarani (2)
Zigzag Warrior: Amis Velo and Rufs (2)
and all other permutations visible on the 'Team similarity' tab on the spreadsheet.


And if anyone else noticed that a team was missing from the major investments post, Redhead Dane doesn't have anyone above the 700 point threshhold I used in that post, Madouas being her most expensive team member.

The other key info I missed last night was the Inter Forum Challenge
The VeloRooms team is:
18Valve, AmisVelo, ArchieBoy, ChrisDK, DJW, Josedin, Leadbelly, Mellow_Velo, Otoxiep87, Rote_Laterne, Scrooll07 and Search
and everyone else (except me: I stay neutral) is for Cycling News and the averages are taken to compare them.
After stage one, it is no surprise considering the gap to second that the challenge is led by the page of choice of Bicycle Boy: CN 440 vs 325 VR

I won't link to the spreadsheet every day, but the location won't change: it is here, at Google Docs. That will be updated each evening, normally. I am away for part of the last weekend, but we'll see what we can do about that when we get to it.
 
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Stage 2
The bridge of sighs of disappointment

Green points
JAKOBSEN Fabio
80​
1​
VAN AERT Wout
50​
0​
PEDERSEN Mads
35​
0​
VAN POPPEL Danny
25​
0​
PHILIPSEN Jasper
15​
1​
SAGAN Peter
10​
15​
LECROQ Jérémy
5​
0​
GROENEWEGEN Dylan
3​
5​
MOZZATO Luca
2​
0​
HOFSTETTER Hugo
1​
0​

1​
Josedin
80​
2​
JumboVismaFan
15​
3​
18Valve
13​
3​
Carrick_on_Seine
13​
5​
13 teams with Sagan
10​
18​
BluesInTheBottle
3​
18​
ChrisDK
3​
18​
PostmanHat
3​

Standings
This is the minor classification, so I'll normally just give the top ten.
All stages give the same points here, so it is not weighted in favour of sprint stages the way that the 'real life' Green jersey classification is (and no intermediate points here either)
1​
BicycleBoy
130​
0​
2​
Josedin
80​
12​
3​
Yellow_Knight
35​
-1​
4​
JumboVismaFan
30​
0​
5​
DJSprtsch
25​
-2​
6​
18Valve
18​
1​
6​
PostmanHat
18​
-2​
8​
LosBrolin
15​
-1​
8​
Northerner
15​
-1​
8​
Salvarani
15​
-4​

Yellow points
Because this ranking is, until we get to Paris, based on projections, points can drop as well as rise (eg Lampaert is no longer projected for winning). On sprint stages, or breakaway victories with no GC impact, there may be very little change here other than the day's stage points. On major GC stages, there may be huge change here. But not today (I'll list main gains and losses by riders who are selected in the game)

JAKOBSEN Fabio
130​
1​
SAGAN Peter
35​
15​
PHILIPSEN Jasper
15​
1​
GANNA Filippo
-25​
2​
CORT NIELSEN Magnus
-30​
2​
POGACAR Tadej
-35​
1​
VAN DER POEL Mathieu
-45​
4​
LAMPAERT Yves
-215​
1​

Teams will have a net change in their score each day:
1​
Josedin
142​
2​
Armchair_Cyclist
58​
2​
Carrick_on_Seine
58​
4​
18Valve
51​
5​
Del1962
50​
6​
Otoxiep87
49​
7​
Titan31
48​
8​
Kazistuta
47​
9​
Laarsland
45​
10​
AmisVelo
44​
10​
Scrooll07
44​
12​
Northerner
42​
13​
Triley36
41​
14​
LosBrolin
40​
15​
SamuCuenca
36​
16​
Comodoro
29​
17​
Bonimenier
26​
18​
Leadbelly
20​
19​
Rufs
18​
20​
Bminchow
15​
20​
Mellow_Velo
15​
22​
ArchieBoy
13​
23​
ZigZagWanderer
12​
24​
BluesInTheBottle
11​
24​
Evans_is_the_Best
11​
26​
ChrisDK
10​
27​
Vladimir
8​
28​
Lecko
6​
29​
RedheadDane
4​
30​
DJW
1​
30​
Rote_Laterne
1​
32​
Search
-22​
33​
DJSprtsch
-25​
34​
PostmanHat
-27​
35​
JumboVismaFan
-30​
36​
Yellow_Knight
-35​
37​
Salvarani
-43​
38​
BicycleBoy
-243​
Collective_Wisdom
45​

and there should be at least some change each day, even if in fairly insignificant parts of the table, in the Standings
1​
BicycleBoy
1397​
0​
2​
DJSprtsch
872​
0​
3​
PostmanHat
602​
0​
4​
18Valve
573​
1​
5​
Yellow_Knight
555​
-1​
6​
LosBrolin
542​
0​
7​
Northerner
520​
1​
8​
BluesInTheBottle
507​
-1​
9​
Comodoro
479​
3​
10​
Lecko
465​
1​
11​
Bonimenier
456​
3​
12​
DJW
443​
1​
13​
Armchair_Cyclist
437​
3​
14​
Josedin
430​
13​
14​
JumboVismaFan
430​
-4​
16​
Salvarani
429​
-7​
17​
Carrick_on_Seine
428​
0​
18​
Del1962
393​
2​
19​
Rote_Laterne
384​
-4​
20​
Rufs
375​
-1​
21​
Leadbelly
357​
0​
22​
Otoxiep87
343​
2​
23​
Search
339​
-5​
24​
ArchieBoy
327​
-2​
25​
ZigZagWanderer
323​
-2​
26​
Titan31
320​
3​
27​
Bminchow
307​
-2​
28​
Mellow_Velo
304​
-2​
29​
Kazistuta
301​
1​
30​
Evans_is_the_Best
291​
-2​
31​
Laarsland
287​
0​
32​
Scrooll07
271​
0​
33​
AmisVelo
270​
0​
34​
Triley36
263​
0​
35​
ChrisDK
231​
0​
36​
Vladimir
221​
0​
37​
SamuCuenca
196​
1​
38​
RedheadDane
193​
-1​
Collective_Wisdom
282​
 
Stage 3 Farewell to the lands of the north

Green points
GROENEWEGEN Dylan
80​
5​
VAN AERT Wout
50​
0​
PHILIPSEN Jasper
35​
1​
SAGAN Peter
25​
15​
JAKOBSEN Fabio
15​
1​
LAPORTE Christophe
10​
1​
DAINESE Alberto
5​
1​
HOFSTETTER Hugo
3​
0​
EWAN Caleb
2​
19​
VAN POPPEL Danny
1​
0​

Of the 5 teams with Groenewegen, 18 Valve has Sagan and Ewan, Carrick-on-Seine has Sagan, ChrisDK has Laporte and Ewan, and BitB has Ewan.
1​
18Valve
107​
2​
Carrick_on_Seine
105​
3​
ChrisDK
92​
4​
BluesInTheBottle
82​
5​
PostmanHat
80​
6​
JumboVismaFan
35​
7​
8 teams with Sagan and Evans
27​
15​
5 more Sagan teams
25​
20​
Josedin
20​

Standings
1​
BicycleBoy
155​
0​
2​
18Valve
125​
4​
3​
Carrick_on_Seine
118​
8​
4​
Josedin
100​
-2​
5​
PostmanHat
98​
1​
6​
ChrisDK
95​
19​
7​
BluesInTheBottle
90​
15​
8​
JumboVismaFan
65​
-4​
9​
Northerner
42​
-1​
10​
LosBrolin
40​
-2​

Yellow Points
There was a bunch of riders 39 seconds down. Only 39 seconds, but some of them lost dozens of places, so that means some notable point shifts.
GROENEWEGEN Dylan
115​
5​
YATES Adam
70​
2​
PIDCOCK Thomas
50​
2​
LAPORTE Christophe
47​
1​
THOMAS Geraint
42​
26​
PHILIPSEN Jasper
38​
1​
KÄMNA Lennard
38​
4​
CATTANEO Mattia
33​
3​
ROGLIC Primoz
30​
1​
VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas
30​
6​
VAN DER POEL Mathieu
30​
4​
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander
29​
3​
VLASOV Aleksandr
28​
7​
VERMEERSCH Florian
27​
1​
GAUDU David
26​
6​
EEKHOFF Nils
26​
3​
SAGAN Peter
25​
15​
SCHACHMANN Maximilian
25​
5​
WALSCHEID Maximilian
-31​
1​
CASTROVIEJO NICOLAS Jonathan
-39​
2​
MEINTJES Louis
-43​
3​
JUNGELS Bob
-119​
7​
GANNA Filippo
-271​
2​


On the day:
1​
18Valve
294​
2​
PostmanHat
282​
3​
Titan31
162​
4​
Leadbelly
156​
5​
ChrisDK
152​
6​
Northerner
142​
7​
Rufs
137​
8​
Evans_is_the_Best
128​
9​
Carrick_on_Seine
126​
10​
Kazistuta
116​
10​
Otoxiep87
116​
12​
Josedin
111​
12​
Laarsland
111​
14​
Mellow_Velo
107​
15​
Scrooll07
104​
15​
Vladimir
104​
17​
Bminchow
102​
18​
ArchieBoy
97​
19​
DJW
90​
20​
Salvarani
89​
21​
Triley36
85​
22​
Search
84​
23​
JumboVismaFan
83​
24​
Del1962
82​
25​
LosBrolin
78​
26​
Lecko
72​
27​
AmisVelo
70​
28​
SamuCuenca
51​
29​
BluesInTheBottle
35​
30​
Comodoro
3​
31​
Armchair_Cyclist
0​
31​
Yellow_Knight
0​
33​
Rote_Laterne
-4​
34​
RedheadDane
-26​
35​
Bonimenier
-36​
36​
ZigZagWanderer
-159​
37​
BicycleBoy
-198​
38​
DJSprtsch
-264​
Collective_Wisdom
111​

Standings
Bicycle Boy has lost more than 400 points in the last 2 stages, but still retains a healthy lead.

1​
BicycleBoy
1199​
0​
2​
PostmanHat
884​
1​
3​
18Valve
867​
1​
4​
Northerner
662​
3​
5​
LosBrolin
620​
1​
6​
DJSprtsch
608​
-4​
7​
Yellow_Knight
555​
-2​
8​
Carrick_on_Seine
554​
9​
9​
BluesInTheBottle
542​
-1​
10​
Josedin
541​
4​
11​
Lecko
537​
-1​
12​
DJW
533​
0​
13​
Salvarani
518​
3​
14​
JumboVismaFan
513​
0​
14​
Leadbelly
513​
7​
16​
Rufs
512​
4​
17​
Comodoro
482​
-8​
17​
Titan31
482​
9​
19​
Del1962
475​
-1​
20​
Otoxiep87
459​
2​
21​
Armchair_Cyclist
437​
-8​
22​
ArchieBoy
424​
2​
23​
Search
423​
0​
24​
Bonimenier
420​
-13​
25​
Evans_is_the_Best
419​
5​
26​
Kazistuta
417​
3​
27​
Mellow_Velo
411​
1​
28​
Bminchow
409​
-1​
29​
Laarsland
398​
2​
30​
ChrisDK
383​
5​
31​
Rote_Laterne
380​
-12​
32​
Scrooll07
375​
0​
33​
Triley36
348​
1​
34​
AmisVelo
340​
-1​
35​
Vladimir
325​
1​
36​
SamuCuenca
247​
1​
37​
RedheadDane
167​
1​
38​
ZigZagWanderer
164​
-13​
Collective_Wisdom
393​

But there is time for plenty to change yet.

Much closer in the interforum challenge:
CN 498
VR 471

See you on Tuesday
 
Reactions: postmanhat
Ha ha, just noticed I messed up with the rules, I thought the team limit was 3500 CQ points.
If I remember the history correctly, the first GT game was a Giro initiated by, I think, CQManager, and when he followed that up with a Tour game there was discussion about whether the budget should be the same. Consensus settled around 4000, and hasn't changed since (even when it changed from 9 riders to 8 per team).

Maybe I should have pointed it out to you when you sent your team in: I probably just checked that it wasn't over 4000 and ignored the hundreds value.

So who would you have picked?
 
Stage 4 Back in France

Three TdF stage wins in France in a row for van Aert

Green points
VAN AERT Wout
80​
0​
PHILIPSEN Jasper
50​
1​
LAPORTE Christophe
35​
1​
KRISTOFF Alexander
25​
0​
SAGAN Peter
15​
15​
MOZZATO Luca
10​
0​
VAN POPPEL Danny
5​
0​
HOFSTETTER Hugo
3​
0​
MATTHEWS Michael
2​
0​
THOMAS Benjamin
1​
0​

Only 3 of the top ten selected, and 2 of them as unique picks:
1​
JumboVismaFan
50​
2​
ChrisDK
35​
3​
Fifteen Sagan teams
15​

Standings
1​
BicycleBoy
170​
,
0​
2​
18Valve
140​
,
0​
3​
Carrick_on_Seine
133​
,
0​
4​
ChrisDK
130​
,
2​
5​
JumboVismaFan
115​
,
3​
6​
Josedin
100​
,
-2​
7​
PostmanHat
98​
,
-2​
8​
BluesInTheBottle
90​
,
-1​
9​
Northerner
57​
,
0​
10​
LosBrolin
55​
,
0​

Yellow Points

PHILIPSEN Jasper
62​
1​
LAPORTE Christophe
56​
1​
SAGAN Peter
25​
15​
FUGLSANG Jakob
12​
10​
MAS NICOLAU Enric
10​
1​
MØRKØV CHRISTENSEN Michael
-10​
1​
CORT NIELSEN Magnus
-10​
2​
BAUER Jack
-17​
1​
GOUGEARD Alexis
-19​
2​
SIMMONS Quinn
-21​
1​
GROENEWEGEN Dylan
-25​
5​
GANNA Filippo
-29​
2​
EEKHOFF Nils
-39​
3​

on the day
1​
JumboVismaFan
74​
2​
ChrisDK
44​
2​
Triley36
44​
4​
Titan31
39​
5​
Scrooll07
32​
6​
AmisVelo
30​
7​
SamuCuenca
29​
8​
Carrick_on_Seine
27​
9​
Del1962
25​
9​
Kazistuta
25​
9​
LosBrolin
25​
12​
Otoxiep87
23​
13​
Bonimenier
22​
14​
DJW
19​
15​
ZigZagWanderer
18​
16​
RedheadDane
17​
17​
Evans_is_the_Best
16​
18​
Armchair_Cyclist
12​
19​
Leadbelly
10​
19​
Lecko
10​
21​
Comodoro
8​
22​
Bminchow
6​
23​
Mellow_Velo
5​
24​
Rufs
3​
25​
Search
2​
26​
Yellow_Knight
0​
27​
Rote_Laterne
-2​
28​
BicycleBoy
-4​
29​
ArchieBoy
-6​
29​
Vladimir
-6​
31​
Laarsland
-8​
32​
BluesInTheBottle
-9​
33​
Northerner
-16​
33​
PostmanHat
-16​
35​
Josedin
-21​
36​
Salvarani
-27​
37​
18Valve
-29​
38​
DJSprtsch
-33​
Collective_Wisdom
35​


Standings
1​
BicycleBoy
1195​
0​
2​
PostmanHat
868​
0​
3​
18Valve
838​
0​
4​
Northerner
646​
0​
5​
LosBrolin
645​
0​
6​
JumboVismaFan
587​
8​
7​
Carrick_on_Seine
581​
1​
8​
DJSprtsch
575​
-2​
9​
Yellow_Knight
555​
-2​
10​
DJW
552​
2​
11​
Lecko
547​
0​
12​
BluesInTheBottle
533​
-3​
13​
Leadbelly
523​
1​
14​
Titan31
521​
3​
15​
Josedin
520​
-5​
16​
Rufs
515​
0​
17​
Del1962
500​
2​
18​
Salvarani
491​
-5​
19​
Comodoro
490​
-2​
20​
Otoxiep87
482​
0​
21​
Armchair_Cyclist
449​
0​
22​
Bonimenier
442​
2​
22​
Kazistuta
442​
4​
24​
Evans_is_the_Best
435​
1​
25​
ChrisDK
427​
5​
26​
Search
425​
-3​
27​
ArchieBoy
418​
-5​
28​
Mellow_Velo
416​
-1​
29​
Bminchow
415​
-1​
30​
Scrooll07
407​
2​
31​
Triley36
392​
2​
32​
Laarsland
390​
-3​
33​
Rote_Laterne
378​
-2​
34​
AmisVelo
370​
0​
35​
Vladimir
319​
0​
36​
SamuCuenca
276​
0​
37​
RedheadDane
184​
0​
38​
ZigZagWanderer
182​
0​
Collective_Wisdom
428​

There should be a bit of a shake up tomorrow.
 
No idea. I think I would've tried to build a completely different team based on an expensive GT rider like Pogi or Vingegaard. Right now, in hindsight, Van Aert looks like the best pick, but I don't think I would've done gone down that road. My plan was for Ganna to crush all in the TT, take pink and keep it for a good while, ideally up until Super Planche.
 
Stage 5 Cobbles and chaos


Green points
CLARKE Simon
80​
0​
VAN DER HOORN Taco
50​
0​
BOASSON HAGEN Edvald
35​
0​
POWLESS Neilson
25​
0​
CORT NIELSEN Magnus
15​
2​
STUYVEN Jasper
10​
0​
POGACAR Tadej
5​
1​
PHILIPSEN Jasper
3​
1​
JAKOBSEN Fabio
2​
1​
MOZZATO Luca
1​
0​

Not many green points earned today
1​
DJSprtsch
15​
1​
Search
15​
3​
Yellow_Knight
5​
4​
JumboVismaFan
3​
5​
Josedin
2​
JVF and Josedin remain 5th and 6th, and the other three scorers are still well outside the top ten.

Yellow points
This was the opposite of the recent sprint stages: not much on the green table, but lots of overall positional change. The biggest (temporary) winners were unselected, so on the whole it has been a negative day.

CORT NIELSEN Magnus
45​
2​
PHILIPSEN Jasper
34​
1​
JAKOBSEN Fabio
31​
1​
DEGENKOLB John
30​
2​
THOMAS Geraint
30​
26​
CATTANEO Mattia
30​
3​
VLASOV Aleksandr
30​
7​
SCHACHMANN Maximilian
28​
5​
MAS NICOLAU Enric
24​
1​
MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe
23​
7​
GAUDU David
21​
6​
BARDET Romain
21​
8​
FUGLSANG Jakob
20​
10​
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander
20​
3​
PIDCOCK Thomas
20​
2​
HAIG Jack
-20​
10​
GOGL Michael
-20​
2​
VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas
-30​
6​
LUTSENKO Alexey
-42​
1​
LAPORTE Christophe
-50​
1​
POGACAR Tadej
-55​
1​
VERMEERSCH Florian
-63​
1​
KÄMNA Lennard
-94​
4​
LAMPAERT Yves
-160​
1​
ROGLIC Primoz
-203​
1​
VAN DER POEL Mathieu
-270​
4​

On the day
1​
Evans_is_the_Best
142​
2​
Titan31
108​
3​
DJSprtsch
105​
4​
Comodoro
102​
5​
Vladimir
101​
6​
Carrick_on_Seine
98​
7​
Leadbelly
78​
8​
Kazistuta
70​
9​
Search
68​
10​
Bminchow
66​
11​
Otoxiep87
56​
12​
Mellow_Velo
49​
13​
Laarsland
35​
13​
Rufs
35​
15​
SamuCuenca
32​
16​
Triley36
21​
17​
Armchair_Cyclist
19​
18​
Lecko
18​
19​
LosBrolin
13​
20​
DJW
10​
21​
Northerner
9​
22​
Scrooll07
8​
23​
18Valve
1​
24​
AmisVelo
-3​
25​
RedheadDane
-13​
26​
Josedin
-18​
27​
Bonimenier
-19​
28​
ArchieBoy
-23​
29​
BluesInTheBottle
-24​
30​
Del1962
-27​
31​
ZigZagWanderer
-33​
32​
Yellow_Knight
-55​
33​
ChrisDK
-75​
34​
Rote_Laterne
-205​
35​
JumboVismaFan
-236​
36​
Salvarani
-275​
37​
PostmanHat
-309​
38​
BicycleBoy
-410​
Collective_Wisdom
48​


Since an amazing stage 1 score, Bicycle Boy has had three huge negative scores in 4 stages, and finally that takes him off the lead.
1​
18Valve
839​
2​
2​
BicycleBoy
785​
-1​
3​
DJSprtsch
680​
5​
4​
Carrick_on_Seine
679​
3​
5​
LosBrolin
658​
0​
6​
Northerner
655​
-2​
7​
Titan31
629​
7​
8​
Leadbelly
601​
5​
9​
Comodoro
592​
10​
10​
Evans_is_the_Best
577​
14​
11​
Lecko
565​
0​
12​
DJW
562​
-2​
13​
PostmanHat
559​
-11​
14​
Rufs
550​
2​
15​
Otoxiep87
538​
5​
16​
Kazistuta
512​
6​
17​
BluesInTheBottle
509​
-5​
18​
Josedin
502​
-3​
19​
Yellow_Knight
500​
-10​
20​
Search
493​
6​
21​
Bminchow
481​
8​
22​
Del1962
473​
-5​
23​
Armchair_Cyclist
468​
-2​
24​
Mellow_Velo
465​
4​
25​
Laarsland
425​
7​
26​
Bonimenier
423​
-4​
27​
Vladimir
420​
8​
28​
Scrooll07
415​
2​
29​
Triley36
413​
2​
30​
ArchieBoy
395​
-3​
31​
AmisVelo
367​
3​
32​
ChrisDK
352​
-7​
33​
JumboVismaFan
351​
-27​
34​
SamuCuenca
308​
2​
35​
Salvarani
216​
-17​
36​
Rote_Laterne
173​
-3​
37​
RedheadDane
171​
0​
38​
ZigZagWanderer
149​
0​
Collective_Wisdom
476​

CN 491
VR 475
 
Stage 6 Uphill finish at Longwy

I guess Pogacar didn't lose all his energy for those 13 seconds yesterday, but why make an effort for 15km to get 13 seconds when you can get 10 for a 400 metre effort?

Green points
Eight of the top ten in a stage having been selected may well be as many as we will get
POGACAR Tadej
80​
1​
MATTHEWS Michael
50​
0​
GAUDU David
35​
6​
PIDCOCK Thomas
25​
2​
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander
15​
3​
TEUNS Dylan
10​
0​
VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas
5​
6​
MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe
3​
7​
ROGLIC Primoz
2​
1​
BARDET Romain
1​
8​

1​
Yellow_Knight
80​
Pogacar
2​
Vladimir
50​
Gaudu/Quintana
3​
Evans_is_the_Best
38​
Gaudu/Martinez
4​
Titan31
36​
Gaudu/Bardet
5​
Bonimenier
35​
Gaudu
5​
Salvarani
35​
5​
SamuCuenca
35​
8​
18Valve
30​
Pidcock/Vingegaard
9​
DJSprtsch
26​
Pidcock/Bardet
10​
Kazistuta
18​
Quintana/Martinez

Standings
I use elimination of the highest scoring rider as the tiebreaker when scores are equal (although if it is too far down the table, I generally don't bother)
1​
BicycleBoy
170​
0​
2​
18Valve
170​
0​
3​
Carrick_on_Seine
137​
0​
4​
ChrisDK
130​
0​
5​
Yellow_Knight
120​
17​
6​
JumboVismaFan
118​
-1​
7​
Josedin
102​
-1​
8​
PostmanHat
99​
-1​
9​
BluesInTheBottle
95​
-1​
10​
Titan31
88​
1​

Yellow Points
Non-climbers drop away from the higher placings, and the lighter guys move up to fill the gaps. Is the destination of the daily 20 jersey points already determined for the rest of the race?
POGACAR Tadej
385​
1​
VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas
155​
6​
GAUDU David
138​
6​
PIDCOCK Thomas
135​
2​
YATES Adam
120​
2​
MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe
115​
7​
THOMAS Geraint
100​
26​
VLASOV Aleksandr
100​
7​
BARDET Romain
99​
8​
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander
78​
3​
MAS NICOLAU Enric
65​
1​
FUGLSANG Jakob
53​
10​
PHILIPSEN Jasper
46​
1​
MARTIN Guillaume
40​
1​
LAPORTE Christophe
-39​
1​
DEGENKOLB John
-41​
2​
SCHACHMANN Maximilian
-47​
5​
STUYVEN Jasper
-100​
0​
LAMPAERT Yves
-225​
1​

1​
Evans_is_the_Best
387​
2​
Yellow_Knight
385​
3​
18Valve
378​
4​
Leadbelly
373​
5​
LosBrolin
360​
6​
Bonimenier
358​
7​
Northerner
343​
8​
DJSprtsch
336​
9​
Titan31
332​
10​
Bminchow
331​
11​
Carrick_on_Seine
328​
12​
DJW
308​
13​
Lecko
307​
14​
Comodoro
292​
15​
Kazistuta
284​
16​
Vladimir
275​
17​
Del1962
262​
18​
BluesInTheBottle
231​
19​
Laarsland
223​
20​
Armchair_Cyclist
202​
21​
Rufs
201​
22​
ArchieBoy
195​
23​
Search
193​
24​
Mellow_Velo
178​
25​
PostmanHat
170​
25​
SamuCuenca
170​
27​
Triley36
169​
28​
Scrooll07
167​
29​
Salvarani
157​
30​
Josedin
139​
31​
JumboVismaFan
99​
32​
AmisVelo
91​
33​
Rote_Laterne
27​
33​
ZigZagWanderer
27​
35​
Otoxiep87
22​
36​
RedheadDane
10​
37​
ChrisDK
-22​
38​
BicycleBoy
-135​
Collective_Wisdom
243​



1​
18Valve
1217​
0​
2​
LosBrolin
1018​
3​
3​
DJSprtsch
1016​
0​
4​
Carrick_on_Seine
1007​
0​
5​
Northerner
998​
1​
6​
Leadbelly
974​
2​
7​
Evans_is_the_Best
964​
3​
8​
Titan31
961​
-1​
9​
Yellow_Knight
885​
10​
10​
Comodoro
884​
-1​
11​
Lecko
872​
0​
12​
DJW
870​
0​
13​
Bminchow
812​
8​
14​
Kazistuta
796​
2​
15​
Bonimenier
781​
11​
16​
Rufs
751​
-2​
17​
BluesInTheBottle
740​
0​
18​
Del1962
735​
4​
19​
PostmanHat
729​
-6​
20​
Vladimir
695​
7​
21​
Search
686​
-1​
22​
Armchair_Cyclist
670​
1​
23​
BicycleBoy
650​
-21​
24​
Laarsland
648​
1​
25​
Mellow_Velo
643​
-1​
26​
Josedin
641​
-8​
27​
ArchieBoy
590​
3​
28​
Scrooll07
582​
0​
28​
Triley36
582​
1​
30​
Otoxiep87
560​
-15​
31​
SamuCuenca
478​
3​
32​
AmisVelo
458​
-1​
33​
JumboVismaFan
450​
0​
34​
Salvarani
373​
1​
35​
ChrisDK
330​
-3​
36​
Rote_Laterne
200​
0​
37​
RedheadDane
181​
0​
38​
ZigZagWanderer
176​
0​
Collective_Wisdom
719​

Tomorrow may see those who could do the short steep climbs but don't enjoy the longer slogs lose their places: GC will have something of a plausible shape and then we'll really see how we stand.
 
Stage 7 The pretty girls' super bench

This looks to be a pattern that will repeat itself many times in the remaining 2 weeks.

Green points
Ignore what I said in the preamble to this section yesterday: all ten green point scorers today are selected.

POGACAR Tadej
80​
1​
VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas
50​
6​
ROGLIC Primoz
35​
1​
KÄMNA Lennard
25​
4​
THOMAS Geraint
15​
26​
GAUDU David
10​
6​
MAS NICOLAU Enric
5​
1​
BARDET Romain
3​
8​
YATES Adam
2​
2​
KUSS Sepp
1​
1​


All bar 4 teams got at least something today:
1​
Yellow_Knight
80​
2​
Northerner
68​
3​
18Valve
65​
3​
DJW
65​
3​
Lecko
65​
3​
LosBrolin
65​
7​
BluesInTheBottle
55​
8​
Bonimenier
50​
9​
PostmanHat
43​
10​
Del1962
40​
10​
Josedin
40​


Standings
Still one team waiting for its first top ten finisher.
1​
18Valve
235​
1​
2​
Yellow_Knight
200​
3​
3​
BicycleBoy
185​
-2​
4​
Carrick_on_Seine
155​
-1​
5​
BluesInTheBottle
150​
4​
6​
PostmanHat
142​
2​
7​
Josedin
142​
0​
8​
Northerner
131​
7​
9​
ChrisDK
130​
-5​
10​
LosBrolin
128​
5​


Yellow Points
Not only the expected riders dropping down the GC: a few surprises in there too.

POGACAR Tadej
180​
1​
VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas
155​
6​
THOMAS Geraint
137​
26​
ROGLIC Primoz
127​
1​
GAUDU David
126​
6​
KÄMNA Lennard
83​
4​
BARDET Romain
83​
8​
MAS NICOLAU Enric
55​
1​
URAN URAN Rigoberto
37​
3​
MARTIN Guillaume
28​
1​
CARUSO Damiano
23​
4​
MEINTJES Louis
23​
3​
MADOUAS Valentin
22​
1​
SIMMONS Quinn
-25​
1​
MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe
-40​
7​
CATTANEO Mattia
-43​
3​
LAMPAERT Yves
-45​
1​
PIDCOCK Thomas
-60​
2​
PHILIPSEN Jasper
-67​
1​
FUGLSANG Jakob
-71​
10​
VLASOV Aleksandr
-100​
7​

On the day
1​
Northerner
365​
2​
Bonimenier
335​
3​
PostmanHat
299​
4​
Titan31
261​
5​
LosBrolin
242​
6​
Del1962
227​
7​
DJW
226​
8​
BluesInTheBottle
224​
9​
18Valve
222​
10​
Lecko
221​
11​
Josedin
218​
12​
Evans_is_the_Best
195​
13​
Rufs
182​
13​
Mellow_Velo
182​
15​
Yellow_Knight
180​
16​
Leadbelly
161​
17​
DJSprtsch
159​
18​
SamuCuenca
154​
19​
AmisVelo
142​
20​
Salvarani
136​
21​
Scrooll07
133​
22​
Rote_Laterne
127​
23​
Carrick_on_Seine
113​
24​
Search
102​
25​
Triley36
99​
26​
Kazistuta
97​
27​
Comodoro
91​
28​
BicycleBoy
82​
29​
ZigZagWanderer
52​
30​
Armchair_Cyclist
41​
31​
ArchieBoy
37​
32​
RedheadDane
34​
33​
Vladimir
26​
34​
ChrisDK
20​
35​
Bminchow
-3​
36​
JumboVismaFan
-138​
37​
Laarsland
-140​
38​
Otoxiep87
-157​
Collective_Wisdom
149​

Standings
At this stage, Vingegaard seems to be the essential pick: the top three all have him, but so do three teams who are not in the top ten. Yellow Knight has Pogacar, who obviously brings more points individually, but leaves little in the budget: his other 7 riders each contribute only the 20 points for projected arrival in Paris.
1​
18Valve
1439​
1​
2​
Northerner
1363​
7​
3​
LosBrolin
1260​
5​
4​
Titan31
1222​
-2​
5​
DJSprtsch
1175​
-3​
6​
Evans_is_the_Best
1159​
1​
7​
Leadbelly
1135​
1​
8​
Carrick_on_Seine
1120​
-1​
9​
Bonimenier
1116​
11​
10​
DJW
1096​
9​
11​
Lecko
1093​
0​
12​
Yellow_Knight
1065​
-3​
13​
PostmanHat
1028​
6​
14​
Comodoro
975​
-4​
15​
BluesInTheBottle
964​
2​
16​
Del1962
962​
2​
17​
Rufs
933​
-1​
18​
Kazistuta
893​
-4​
19​
Josedin
859​
7​
20​
Mellow_Velo
825​
5​
21​
Bminchow
809​
-8​
22​
Search
788​
-1​
23​
BicycleBoy
732​
0​
24​
Vladimir
721​
-4​
25​
Scrooll07
715​
3​
26​
Armchair_Cyclist
711​
-4​
27​
Triley36
681​
1​
28​
SamuCuenca
632​
3​
29​
ArchieBoy
627​
-2​
30​
AmisVelo
600​
2​
31​
Salvarani
509​
3​
32​
Laarsland
508​
-8​
33​
Otoxiep87
403​
-3​
34​
ChrisDK
350​
1​
35​
Rote_Laterne
327​
1​
36​
JumboVismaFan
312​
-3​
37​
ZigZagWanderer
228​
1​
38​
RedheadDane
215​
-1​
Collective_Wisdom
868​
 
Apologies: an error in yesterday's data in terms of how much the position of the top ten had changed compared to the previous day. But now you have a permanent record of how much your green ranking had changed between stage 6 and 7 if you were in the top ten, and you can easily enough compare tables if you really want to know your daily change

Stage 8
Visiting IOC today, UCI tomorrow, like they've been summonsed for some indiscretion.

Green points
VAN AERT Wout
80​
0​
MATTHEWS Michael
50​
0​
POGACAR Tadej
35​
1​
KRON Andreas Lorentz
25​
1​
BETTIOL Alberto
15​
4​
VLASOV Aleksandr
10​
7​
THOMAS Benjamin
5​
0​
VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas
3​
6​
JUNGELS Bob
2​
7​
PIDCOCK Thomas
1​
2​


Perseverance award to Zigzag, who finally gets his first points in this classification, and a good share of them too, through a unique pick of Kron.
1​
Yellow_Knight
35​
2​
ZigZagWanderer
27​
2​
Comodoro
27​
4​
Lecko
18​
5​
Kazistuta
15​
5​
AmisVelo
15​
7​
Armchair_Cyclist
12​
8​
Vladimir
10​
8​
Otoxiep87
10​
8​
Laarsland
10​
8​
Bminchow
10​
8​
ArchieBoy
10​

Standings
1​
18Valve
239​
0​
2​
Yellow_Knight
235​
0​
3​
BicycleBoy
185​
0​
4​
Carrick_on_Seine
157​
0​
5​
BluesInTheBottle
155​
0​
6​
PostmanHat
142​
0​
7​
Josedin
142​
0​
8​
Northerner
134​
0​
9​
LosBrolin
131​
1​
10​
ChrisDK
130​
-1​

Yellow points
Those who should be high in GC already were, so today didn't have much of a sorting effect, thus less dramatic changes here. But the number of non-finishers is creeping up, which don't necessarily reduce a score a lot, but damages point earning potential.

POGACAR Tadej
55​
1​
KRON Andreas Lorentz
25​
1​
BETTIOL Alberto
17​
4​
JUNGELS Bob
16​
7​
VLASOV Aleksandr
10​
7​
MARTIN Guillaume
10​
1​
MEINTJES Louis
10​
3​
SCHACHMANN Maximilian
-12​
5​
FUGLSANG Jakob
-12​
10​
VERMAERKE Kevin
-20​
2​
BOUCHARD Geoffrey
-20​
1​
MOSCON Gianni
-20​
1​
KÄMNA Lennard
-33​
4​
CATTANEO Mattia
-33​
3​

On the day
That'll probably be my best performance
1​
ZigZagWanderer
48​
2​
Yellow_Knight
35​
3​
Armchair_Cyclist
24​
4​
BluesInTheBottle
18​
5​
Kazistuta
17​
6​
DJSprtsch
15​
7​
AmisVelo
12​
8​
ArchieBoy
8​
8​
Comodoro
8​
10​
Lecko
6​
10​
RedheadDane
6​
12​
Northerner
4​
13​
Bminchow
2​
14​
18Valve
1​
14​
Carrick_on_Seine
1​
14​
LosBrolin
1​
17​
Rote_Laterne
0​
18​
Search
-1​
19​
BicycleBoy
-2​
20​
Salvarani
-5​
21​
ChrisDK
-7​
21​
Scrooll07
-7​
23​
SamuCuenca
-9​
24​
Vladimir
-11​
25​
JumboVismaFan
-12​
25​
Leadbelly
-12​
25​
Rufs
-12​
28​
Laarsland
-14​
29​
Bonimenier
-16​
29​
DJW
-16​
31​
Del1962
-17​
32​
Triley36
-19​
33​
Evans_is_the_Best
-25​
34​
Josedin
-26​
35​
Titan31
-27​
36​
Otoxiep87
-35​
37​
Mellow_Velo
-40​
38​
PostmanHat
-48​
Collective_Wisdom
-12​

Standings
1​
18Valve
1440​
0​
2​
Northerner
1367​
0​
3​
LosBrolin
1261​
0​
4​
Titan31
1195​
0​
5​
DJSprtsch
1190​
0​
6​
Evans_is_the_Best
1134​
0​
7​
Leadbelly
1123​
0​
8​
Carrick_on_Seine
1121​
0​
9​
Bonimenier
1100​
0​
10​
Yellow_Knight
1100​
2​
11​
Lecko
1099​
0​
12​
DJW
1080​
-2​
13​
Comodoro
983​
1​
14​
BluesInTheBottle
982​
1​
15​
PostmanHat
980​
-2​
16​
Del1962
945​
0​
17​
Rufs
921​
0​
18​
Kazistuta
910​
0​
19​
Josedin
833​
0​
20​
Bminchow
811​
1​
21​
Search
787​
1​
22​
Mellow_Velo
785​
-2​
23​
Armchair_Cyclist
735​
3​
24​
BicycleBoy
730​
-1​
25​
Vladimir
710​
-1​
26​
Scrooll07
708​
-1​
27​
Triley36
662​
0​
28​
ArchieBoy
635​
1​
29​
SamuCuenca
623​
-1​
30​
AmisVelo
612​
0​
31​
Salvarani
504​
0​
32​
Laarsland
494​
0​
33​
Otoxiep87
368​
0​
34​
ChrisDK
343​
0​
35​
Rote_Laterne
327​
0​
36​
JumboVismaFan
300​
0​
37​
ZigZagWanderer
276​
0​
38​
RedheadDane
221​
0​
Collective_Wisdom
856​
 
Jul 11, 2022
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Apologies: an error in yesterday's data in terms of how much the position of the top ten had changed compared to the previous day. But now you have a permanent record of how much your green ranking had changed between stage 6 and 7 if you were in the top ten, and you can easily enough compare tables if you really want to know your daily change

Stage 8
Visiting IOC today, UCI tomorrow, like they've been summonsed for some indiscretion.

Green points
VAN AERT Wout
80​
0​
MATTHEWS Michael
50​
0​
POGACAR Tadej
35​
1​
KRON Andreas Lorentz
25​
1​
BETTIOL Alberto
15​
4​
VLASOV Aleksandr
10​
7​
THOMAS Benjamin
5​
0​
VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas
3​
6​
JUNGELS Bob
2​
7​
PIDCOCK Thomas
1​
2​


Perseverance award to Zigzag, who finally gets his first points in this classification, and a good share of them too, through a unique pick of Kron.
1​
Yellow_Knight
35​
2​
ZigZagWanderer
27​
2​
Comodoro
27​
4​
Lecko
18​
5​
Kazistuta
15​
5​
AmisVelo
15​
7​
Armchair_Cyclist
12​
8​
Vladimir
10​
8​
Otoxiep87
10​
8​
Laarsland
10​
8​
Bminchow
10​
8​
ArchieBoy
10​

Standings
1​
18Valve
239​
0​
2​
Yellow_Knight
235​
0​
3​
BicycleBoy
185​
0​
4​
Carrick_on_Seine
157​
0​
5​
BluesInTheBottle
155​
0​
6​
PostmanHat
142​
0​
7​
Josedin
142​
0​
8​
Northerner
134​
0​
9​
LosBrolin
131​
1​
10​
ChrisDK
130​
-1​

Yellow points
Those who should be high in GC already were, so today didn't have much of a sorting effect, thus less dramatic changes here. But the number of non-finishers is creeping up, which don't necessarily reduce a score a lot, but damages point earning potential.

POGACAR Tadej
55​
1​
KRON Andreas Lorentz
25​
1​
BETTIOL Alberto
17​
4​
JUNGELS Bob
16​
7​
VLASOV Aleksandr
10​
7​
MARTIN Guillaume
10​
1​
MEINTJES Louis
10​
3​

SCHACHMANN Maximilian
-12​
5​
FUGLSANG Jakob
-12​
10​
VERMAERKE Kevin
-20​
2​
BOUCHARD Geoffrey
-20​
1​
MOSCON Gianni
-20​
1​
KÄMNA Lennard
-33​
4​
CATTANEO Mattia
-33​
3​

On the day
That'll probably be my best performance
1​
ZigZagWanderer
48​
2​
Yellow_Knight
35​
3​
Armchair_Cyclist
24​
4​
BluesInTheBottle
18​
5​
Kazistuta
17​
6​
DJSprtsch
15​
7​
AmisVelo
12​
8​
ArchieBoy
8​
8​
Comodoro
8​
10​
Lecko
6​
10​
RedheadDane
6​
12​
Northerner
4​
13​
Bminchow
2​
14​
18Valve
1​
14​
Carrick_on_Seine
1​
14​
LosBrolin
1​
17​
Rote_Laterne
0​
18​
Search
-1​
19​
BicycleBoy
-2​
20​
Salvarani
-5​
21​
ChrisDK
-7​
21​
Scrooll07
-7​
23​
SamuCuenca
-9​
24​
Vladimir
-11​
25​
JumboVismaFan
-12​
25​
Leadbelly
-12​
25​
Rufs
-12​
28​
Laarsland
-14​
29​
Bonimenier
-16​
29​
DJW
-16​
31​
Del1962
-17​
32​
Triley36
-19​
33​
Evans_is_the_Best
-25​
34​
Josedin
-26​
35​
Titan31
-27​
36​
Otoxiep87
-35​
37​
Mellow_Velo
-40​
38​
PostmanHat
-48​
Collective_Wisdom
-12​

Standings
1​
18Valve
1440​
0​
2​
Northerner
1367​
0​
3​
LosBrolin
1261​
0​
4​
Titan31
1195​
0​
5​
DJSprtsch
1190​
0​
6​
Evans_is_the_Best
1134​
0​
7​
Leadbelly
1123​
0​
8​
Carrick_on_Seine
1121​
0​
9​
Bonimenier
1100​
0​
10​
Yellow_Knight
1100​
2​
11​
Lecko
1099​
0​
12​
DJW
1080​
-2​
13​
Comodoro
983​
1​
14​
BluesInTheBottle
982​
1​
15​
PostmanHat
980​
-2​
16​
Del1962
945​
0​
17​
Rufs
921​
0​
18​
Kazistuta
910​
0​
19​
Josedin
833​
0​
20​
Bminchow
811​
1​
21​
Search
787​
1​
22​
Mellow_Velo
785​
-2​
23​
Armchair_Cyclist
735​
3​
24​
BicycleBoy
730​
-1​
25​
Vladimir
710​
-1​
26​
Scrooll07
708​
-1​
27​
Triley36
662​
0​
28​
ArchieBoy
635​
1​
29​
SamuCuenca
623​
-1​
30​
AmisVelo
612​
0​
31​
Salvarani
504​
0​
32​
Laarsland
494​
0​
33​
Otoxiep87
368​
0​
34​
ChrisDK
343​
0​
35​
Rote_Laterne
327​
0​
36​
JumboVismaFan
300​
0​
37​
ZigZagWanderer
276​
0​
38​
RedheadDane
221​
0​
Collective_Wisdom
856​
Thanks for sharing that table with us. I was actually searching for this https://www.topessaywriting.org/samples/information-science-and-technology website and while searching for it online, I found your post.
Thank you :)
 
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