2026 Tour de France CQ game

[Schachus]

True, but we all know he aint staying 3rd in GC till the end of the tour. But that stage placement would have stood. And I beloeve he could have easily come second instead of Simmons, if the switched the leadout

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

True, but we all know he aint staying 3rd in GC till the end of the tour. But that stage placement would have stood. And I beloeve he could have easily come second instead of Simmons, if the switched the leadout

True. Stage and yellow jersey points are locked in, even if the rider doesn't finish.

 

[Peteturbo2]

so, depending on stage 6, if Traeen can hang in there, RHD is likely to build an almost unassailable lead since noone can have P or V?

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

so, depending on stage 6, if Traeen can hang in there, RHD is likely to build an almost unassailable lead since noone can have P or V?

Well even if he holds yellow past tomorrow, Traeen won't keep getting 532 points a day. But those 20 points a day for wearing yellow could continue for 10 days or so. But if we take a fairly good scenario for Traeen and say that the time gained yesterday and the resultant confidence boost mean he finishes say 7th on GC, then Redhead will lose 370 GC projected points. And riders like Lipowitz, Seixas and Ayuso will probably gain points in passing him. So take the net 200 points off her current total, and you have some idea where she might end up. (Sorry RhD)

Equally the teams with Quinn (7 of the top eight) won't keep that boost to their rankings all the way to Paris, so the results table will compact somewhat.

And if we agree that Vacek and De Bruyne also have artificially high GC placings on account of yesterday's breakaway, then we need to go all the way down to Leadbelly in 12th to find a team with a realistic projection of their GC points.

 

[Shakes]

I'm not going to listen to De Kleijn anymore.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Stage 5
The first sprint, but the big bunch was missing

Green points

At last, some stage podium placings

Rider	pts	Teams
KOOIJ Olav	80	15
KANTER Max	50	1
MERLIER Tim	35	16
ARTZ Huub	25	1
PHILIPSEN Jasper	15	0
GIRMAY HAILU Biniam	10	5
PEDERSEN Mads	5	0
FRETIN Milan	3	3
TURGIS Anthony	2	0
WAERENSKJOLD Søren	1	0

Daily gains

Proper amounts of points: Kooij and Merlier for the top 6, with Girmay as well for Kazistuta

Rank		Pts
1	Kazistuta	125
2=	DJSprtsch, Hayneplane, PostmanHat, Shakes, Triley36	115
7	Dogboy (Kanter & Merlier)	85
8	TotalPackage (Kooij and Fretin)	83
9=	Other teams with Kooij	80
17=	Other teams with Merlier	35
26	Onizuka999	28
27=	Other teams with Girmay	10
31	Search	3
32=	Everyone else	0

Standings

With big points, come big jumps.

Rank		Pts	+/-
1	PostmanHat	177	(+19)
2	Hayneplane	172	(+22)
3	Leadbelly	169	(-1)
3	Triley36	169	(+25)
5	Madrazo	168	(-2)
6	Ingsve	156	(+3)
7	AmisVelo	147	(+8)
8	Kazistuta	144	(+35)
9	Josedin	139	(+12)
10	BicycleBoy	135	(+16)
10	DJSprtsch	135	(+32)

Yellow points
This is fairly normal for a sprint stage: little change to scores beyond the stage points and maybe adjustment in the green jersey rankings. A few riders will usually not finish on the same time, and will drop some places, Van Eetvelt is the highest placed to do so today.

	Pts	teams
KOOIJ Olav	95	15
KANTER Max	85	1
GIRMAY HAILU Biniam	50	5
MERLIER Tim	40	16
ARTZ Huub	25	1
TRAEEN Torstein	20	1
CASTRILLO ZAPATER Pablo	-10	3
VAN EETVELT Lennert	-16	21

Daily swing

I seem to have managed to come last...

Rank		Pts
1	Kazistuta	171
2	PostmanHat	135
3	Dogboy	125
3	Shakes	125
5	DJSprtsch	119
5	Hayneplane	119
5	Triley36	119
8	BicycleBoy	97
9	Josedin	96
10	Nightowl	95
11	TotalPackage	82
12	AmisVelo	79
12	Ingsve	79
12	Laarsland	79
15	Leadbelly	78
15	Madrazo	78
17	RedheadDane	59
18	BsAsCycling	52
18	Lecko	52
20	Rufs	51
21	IlMaestro	42
22	DevilsElbow	41
23	Mikks	40
23	QueenStagiaire	40
25	Avoriaz	39
25	Bminchow	39
27	MagliaNera	25
27	Onizuka999	25
29	Schachus	24
30	Del1962	23
31	BluesInTheBottle	1
32	EvansIsTheBest	0
32	LosBrolin	0
32	YellowKnight	0
35	SamuCuenca	-1
36	PeteTurbo2	-3
37	ZigZagWanderer	-10
38	JumboVismaFan	-11
39	Squire	-13
40	Search	-14
41	DJW	-16
41	SlowClimber	-16
43	Vladimir	-21
44	Armchair_Cyclist	-27
	Collective_Wisdom	119
	Default	86
	Torito_y_amigos	-30

Standings

Amis Velo and Search (2nd and 3rd) swap places, but almost no other movement in the top ten

Rank		Pts	+/-
1	Madrazo	1199	(-)
2	AmisVelo	1158	(+1)
3	Search	1105	(-1)
4	LosBrolin	1061	(-)
5	TotalPackage	1052	(-)
6	RedheadDane	1000	(-)
7	QueenStagiaire	965	(-)
8	Del1962	927	(-)
9	Schachus	881	(-)
10	Josedin	819	(+1)
11	ZigZagWanderer	815	(-1)
12	PostmanHat	778	(+3)
13	Leadbelly	770	(-1)
14	Ingsve	722	(+1)
15	Squire	678	(-2)
16	BicycleBoy	677	(+5)
17	DJW	669	(-3)
18	Nightowl	668	(+4)
19	Laarsland	667	(-1)
20	Hayneplane	644	(+5)
21	Bminchow	636	(-4)
22	Triley36	635	(+4)
23	DevilsElbow	609	(-)
24	Kazistuta	589	(+13)
25	Shakes	588	(+6)
26	SlowClimber	566	(-6)
27	Armchair_Cyclist	561	(-9)
28	Vladimir	539	(-4)
29	Mikks	534	(-1)
30	IlMaestro	522	(-1)
31	Dogboy	501	(+9)
32	Rufs	498	(+1)
33	MagliaNera	492	(-3)
34	DJSprtsch	490	(+7)
34	JumboVismaFan	490	(-7)
36	BluesInTheBottle	461	(-4)
37	Onizuka999	447	(-1)
38	SamuCuenca	438	(-4)
39	BsAsCycling	436	(-)
40	EvansIsTheBest	425	(-5)
41	Avoriaz	406	(+1)
42	YellowKnight	401	(-4)
43	Lecko	372	(-)
44	PeteTurbo2	295	(-)
	Collective_Wisdom	672
	Default	373
	Torito_y_amigos	940

Tomorrow should see a lot more variance in scores.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Why do I not get any points for baptist veistoffer at the intermediates???

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Why do I not get any points for baptist veistoffer at the intermediates???

Veistroffer scored 25 points in the TdF Green Jersey competition today. They brought him into 17th place in that table. CQ give points to the top 10 riders in that classification at the end of the Tour: I update the top ten in the classification each day, and show them as though each day were the end of the Tour.

The game is based on CQ points (projected to be) earned, not the Tour's reckoning tables that determine those positions. Thus you have 5 points from the green jersey classification among your yellow points, because Merlier is currently 7th in that classification.

What I call the green points in the game are points from finishing in the top 10 in any stage, distributed 80-50-35-25-15-10-5-3-2-1, because those are the points CQ give for stage results (plus TTT stage points, already discussed at some length higher in the thread).

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Veistroffer scored 25 points in the TdF Green Jersey competition today. They brought him into 17th place in that table. CQ give points to the top 10 riders in that classification at the end of the Tour: I update the top ten in the classification each day, and show them as though each day were the end of the Tour.

The game is based on CQ points (projected to be) earned, not the Tour's reckoning tables that determine those positions. Thus you have 5 points from the green jersey classification among your yellow points, because Merlier is currently 7th in that classification.

What I call the green points in the game are points from finishing in the top 10 in any stage, distributed 80-50-35-25-15-10-5-3-2-1, because those are the points CQ give for stage results (plus TTT stage points, already discussed at some length higher in the thread).

My impression is that you devised this game to show off your maths skills. Thanks

 

[mikks]

Is it just me or is it simply the nature of the TDF, (this is my first time to play TDF game) but I was not able to find any super obvious must-have picks—aka Seixas or Cosnefroy earlier in the year, whose balance between price and quality was so favourable that they sorta automatic picks.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Is it just me or is it simply the nature of the TDF, (this is my first time to play TDF game) but I was not able to find any super obvious must-have picks—aka Seixas or Cosnefroy earlier in the year, whose balance between price and quality was so favourable that they sorta automatic picks.

To me, only Carapaz was obligatory this year.

It isn't always like that, though - last year Vingegaard was available at 1735 and Gall at 543. As a result, in the final standings, the top 22 teams all had Vingegaard and 15 of the top 17 had Gall.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Is it just me or is it simply the nature of the TDF, (this is my first time to play TDF game) but I was not able to find any super obvious must-have picks—aka Seixas or Cosnefroy earlier in the year, whose balance between price and quality was so favourable that they sorta automatic picks.

I guess the fact that pricing is based on 12 months to a week before the event means that riders on form are not as cheap as they might have been in the full-season game. If Seixas is going to get you points in the 'Main Game' that Skidmark runs, he will do so at a cost of 661 points: whatever he does for you here will have cost 1601 points.

If there are obvious picks that nearly everyone takes, then it is the marginal, probably low budget, picks that make the difference. Decisions like Sean Quinn for 46 points of Jake Stewart for 60 can become vital. Does that make it more of a lottery, or more skilled?

 

[Shakes]

Arvid de Kleijn out. That will teach me to not listen to pre tour interviews. Mr 'I would pick myself'. Bummer.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Stage 6
Tourmalet (and Tour finis?)

Green points
Our main picks got the points, but not the main points

Rider	pts	Teams
POGACAR Tadej	80	0
VINGEGAARD HANSEN Jonas	50	0
DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac	35	0
EVENEPOEL Remco	25	0
SEIXAS Paul	15	18
LIPOWITZ Florian	10	11
AYUSO PESQUERA Juan	5	23
SKJELMOSE JENSEN Mattias	3	0
MARTINEZ Lenny	2	2
KUSS Sepp	1	0

Daily gains

Rank		Pts
1=	Armchair_Cyclist, BluesInTheBottle (Seixas & Lipowitz)	25
3=	Laarsland, Leadbelly, LosBrolin, Madrazo, Search (Seixas & Ayuso)	20
8=	Seixas teams, or Lipowitz & Ayuso	15
25=	Lipowitz teams	10
28=	Ayuso teams	5
40=	Onizuka999, YellowKnight (Martinez)	2
42=	3 more teams	0
	Collective_Wisdom	5
	Default	0
	Torito_y_amigos	35

Standings

Not a lot of points today, but enough to stir things up a bit.

Rank		Pts	+/-
1	Leadbelly	189	(+2)
2	Madrazo	188	(+3)
3	PostmanHat	182	(-2)
4	Hayneplane	177	(-2)
5	Triley36	174	(-2)
6	AmisVelo	162	(+1)
7	Ingsve	161	(-1)
8	Josedin	154	(+1)
9	BicycleBoy	150	(+1)
10	Kazistuta	149	(-2)

Note that Collective Wisdom is on 196, and Torito y amigos on 152.


Yellow points

To a large extent, todays points are the undoing of stage 4.

Rider	pts	Teams
SEIXAS Paul	130	18
AYUSO PESQUERA Juan	115	23
MARTINEZ Lenny	107	2
LIPOWITZ Florian	103	11
KANTER Max	15	1
FRIGO Marco	-15	1
GIRMAY HAILU Biniam	-15	5
DE KLEIJN Arvid	-20	8
ARENSMAN Thymen	-22	2
UIJTDEBROEKS Cian	-63	1
BAUDIN Alex	-69	1
DEBRUYNE Ramses	-188	3
VACEK Mathias	-221	1
QUINN Sean	-320	7
TRAEEN Torstein	-547	1

Daily swings
The 5 teams that gained most on day 4 are the 5 that have lost most today. Not quite as firm a correlation at the other end of the table, but almost.

Rank		Pts
1	Leadbelly	261
2	Laarsland	257
3	Armchair_Cyclist	255
4	BluesInTheBottle	233
5	DJW	231
6	SlowClimber	220
7	Nightowl	210
8	BicycleBoy	203
9	EvansIsTheBest	151
10	JumboVismaFan	133
11	Dogboy	132
12	SamuCuenca	130
12	YellowKnight	130
14	DevilsElbow	125
15	Ingsve	124
16	Hayneplane	118
16	Triley36	118
18	MagliaNera	117
18	Mikks	117
20	BsAsCycling	108
21	Onizuka999	107
22	IlMaestro	105
23	Avoriaz	100
23	Shakes	100
25	Bminchow	88
26	DJSprtsch	83
26	Kazistuta	83
26	Vladimir	83
29	Rufs	75
30	Squire	67
31	PeteTurbo2	5
32	Lecko	-5
33	Search	-65
34	LosBrolin	-68
35	Madrazo	-70
36	ZigZagWanderer	-73
37	PostmanHat	-88
38	AmisVelo	-97
38	Josedin	-97
40	Schachus	-110
41	TotalPackage	-117
42	Del1962	-190
43	QueenStagiaire	-220
44	RedheadDane	-537
	Collective_Wisdom	110
	Default	8
	Torito_y_amigos	-89

Standings

Huge amounts of movement, but the top three remain serenely unmoved.

Rank		Pts	+/-
1	Madrazo	1129	(-)
2	AmisVelo	1061	(-)
3	Search	1040	(-)
4	Leadbelly	1031	(+9)
5	LosBrolin	993	(-1)
6	TotalPackage	935	(-1)
7	Laarsland	924	(+12)
8	DJW	900	(+9)
9	BicycleBoy	880	(+7)
10	Nightowl	878	(+8)
11	Ingsve	846	(+3)
12	Armchair_Cyclist	816	(+15)
13	SlowClimber	786	(+13)
14	Schachus	771	(-5)
15	Hayneplane	762	(+5)
16	Triley36	753	(+6)
17	QueenStagiaire	745	(-10)
17	Squire	745	(-2)
19	ZigZagWanderer	742	(-8)
20	Del1962	737	(-12)
21	DevilsElbow	734	(+2)
22	Bminchow	724	(-1)
23	Josedin	722	(-13)
24	BluesInTheBottle	694	(+12)
25	PostmanHat	690	(-13)
26	Shakes	688	(-1)
27	Kazistuta	672	(-3)
28	Mikks	651	(+1)
29	Dogboy	633	(+2)
30	IlMaestro	627	(-)
31	JumboVismaFan	623	(+3)
32	Vladimir	622	(-4)
33	MagliaNera	609	(-)
34	EvansIsTheBest	576	(+6)
35	DJSprtsch	573	(-1)
35	Rufs	573	(-3)
37	SamuCuenca	568	(+1)
38	Onizuka999	554	(-1)
39	BsAsCycling	544	(-)
40	YellowKnight	531	(+2)
41	Avoriaz	506	(-)
42	RedheadDane	463	(-36)
43	Lecko	367	(-)
44	PeteTurbo2	300	(-)
	Collective_Wisdom	782
	Default	381
	Torito_y_amigos	851

A calmer day in the game tomorrow.

 

[RedheadDane]

Ufff... Træen...

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Stage 7
There was a sprint at the end: not sure that there is much else to be said for the stage.

Green points

Whether it is worth spending big on a sprinter is always one of the key questions in these games. Some days it does.

Rider	pts	Teams
MERLIER Tim	80	16
WAERENSKJOLD Søren	50	0
GIRMAY HAILU Biniam	35	5
KANTER Max	25	1
PHILIPSEN Jasper	15	0
BAUHAUS Phil	10	2
ARTZ Huub	5	1
GODON Dorian	3	0
PEDERSEN Mads	2	0
VAN ASBROECK Tom	1	0

Daily gains
Merlier was a popular pick, but Kazistuta went a bit sprinter mad in his selection, with Kooij, Girmay and (no longer in the race) De Kleijn as well. Merlier and Girmay scoring for him today. Dogboy has his unique pick Kanter as well as Merlier.

Rank		Pts
1	Kazistuta	115
2	Dogboy	105
3=	Avoriaz, Del1962, DevilsElbow, DJSprtsch, Hayneplane, IlMaestro, MagliaNera, Mikks, PostmanHat, QueenStagiaire, RedheadDane, Schachus, Shakes, Triley36	80
17	Lecko (Girmay & Bauhaus)	45
18=	Bminchow, BsAsCycling, Rufs	35
21	Search	10
22	Onizuka999	5
23	The rest of us	0

Standings

Kazistuta's multi-sprinter tactic brings its reward

Rank		Pts	+/-
1	Kazistuta	264	(+9)
2	PostmanHat	262	(+1)
3	Hayneplane	257	(+1)
4	Triley36	254	(+1)
5	Dogboy	236	(+12)
6	DJSprtsch	225	(+7)
7	QueenStagiaire	224	(+7)
8	Del1962	214	(+7)
9	Shakes	212	(+7)
10	DevilsElbow	200	(+9)

All of these (and indeed all the top 13) have Merlier.
Yellow points
Very little change other than stage points: Carapaz lost several places; Traeen didn't start, so relinquishes the place points he had left, and Kooij falls in the Green jersey rankings.

Rider	pts	Teams
MERLIER Tim	102	16
GIRMAY HAILU Biniam	50	5
BAUHAUS Phil	10	2
KANTER Max	10	1
VAN EETVELT Lennert	6	21
KOOIJ Olav	-7	15
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio	-33	23
TRAEEN Torstein	-53	1

Daily swing

Rank		Pts
1	Kazistuta	152
2	Dogboy	114
2	MagliaNera	114
4	Del1962	113
5	Avoriaz	105
5	PostmanHat	105
7	DJSprtsch	101
8	Shakes	97
9	IlMaestro	76
10	DevilsElbow	75
10	Schachus	75
12	Mikks	73
12	QueenStagiaire	73
14	Hayneplane	70
15	Triley36	68
16	BsAsCycling	58
17	RedheadDane	51
18	Lecko	31
19	Bminchow	25
20	Rufs	23
21	ZigZagWanderer	12
22	EvansIsTheBest	11
23	Armchair_Cyclist	10
24	SlowClimber	9
25	Vladimir	8
26	Onizuka999	7
27	Laarsland	3
28	Josedin	2
28	PeteTurbo2	2
30	BluesInTheBottle	1
31	TotalPackage	-1
32	Search	-17
33	Squire	-20
34	DJW	-22
35	JumboVismaFan	-27
35	LosBrolin	-27
37	Ingsve	-32
37	Leadbelly	-32
37	YellowKnight	-32
40	SamuCuenca	-33
41	AmisVelo	-34
41	Madrazo	-34
43	BicycleBoy	-39
43	Nightowl	-39
	Collective_Wisdom	71
	Default	13
	Torito_y_amigos	4

Standings

The top 8 (except Laarsland, with +3) all had negative daily swings today, but all keep their places.

Rank		Pts	+/-
1	Madrazo	1095	(-)
2	AmisVelo	1027	(-)
3	Search	1023	(-)
4	Leadbelly	999	(-)
5	LosBrolin	966	(-)
6	TotalPackage	934	(-)
7	Laarsland	927	(-)
8	DJW	878	(-)
9	Del1962	850	(+11)
10	Schachus	846	(+4)
11	BicycleBoy	841	(-2)
12	Nightowl	839	(-2)
13	Hayneplane	832	(+2)
14	Armchair_Cyclist	826	(-2)
15	Kazistuta	824	(+12)
16	Triley36	821	(-)
17	QueenStagiaire	818	(-)
18	Ingsve	814	(-7)
19	DevilsElbow	809	(+2)
20	PostmanHat	795	(+5)
20	SlowClimber	795	(-7)
22	Shakes	785	(+4)
23	ZigZagWanderer	754	(-4)
24	Bminchow	749	(-2)
25	Dogboy	747	(+4)
26	Squire	725	(-9)
27	Josedin	724	(-4)
27	Mikks	724	(+1)
29	MagliaNera	723	(+4)
30	IlMaestro	703	(-)
31	BluesInTheBottle	695	(-7)
32	DJSprtsch	674	(+3)
33	Vladimir	630	(-1)
34	Avoriaz	611	(+7)
35	BsAsCycling	602	(+4)
36	JumboVismaFan	596	(-5)
36	Rufs	596	(-1)
38	EvansIsTheBest	587	(-4)
39	Onizuka999	561	(-1)
40	SamuCuenca	535	(-3)
41	RedheadDane	514	(+1)
42	YellowKnight	499	(-2)
43	Lecko	398	(-)
44	PeteTurbo2	302	(-)
	Collective_Wisdom	853
	Default	394
	Torito_y_amigos	855

And tomorrow could well be exactly the same...

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Stage 8

Pretty similar in outcome to yesterday, but at least there was some jeopardy in the final few km.

Green points

Merlier again, some variation in the undercast

Rider	pts	Teams
MERLIER Tim	80	16
GIRMAY HAILU Biniam	50	5
KOOIJ Olav	35	15
PHILIPSEN Jasper	25	0
BITTNER Pavel	15	1
PLUIMERS Rick	10	1
ACKERMANN Pascal	5	1
RUSSO Clément	3	0
KANTER Max	2	1
FRETIN Milan	1	3

Daily gains
As seen yesterday, Kazistuta really taking these sprint stages seriously

And at that point, the workaround that I had for Excel not posting properly into the forum software, by using an Excel to BB Code converter, stopped working, and the tables started coming out as the junk you see behind the spoiler.

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Rank		Pts
Kazistuta
DJSprtsch, Hayneplane, PostmanHat, Shakes, Triley36
Dogboy (Merlier and UP Kanter)
Merlierites
Girmayistas
TotalPackage (Kooij + Fretin)
Kooijsters
SamuCuenca (2 U.P.s: Bittner and Pluimers)
Fretin Fan Club
"Why would I pick a sprinter?"
	Collective_Wisdom
	Default
	Torito_y_amigos

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Standings

Very much in the same order as today's points, except that one of the Merlier teams has a couple of Kooij + Seixas + Carapaz teams preventing all the Merlier teams ahead of all those without him.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I thought I had a chance of a better result today, but I forgot that CQ are even more generous with the points for the winner than ASO and less kind to the minor placed riders.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

So in today's greens.
Kazistuta (Merlier, Girmay & Kooij) 165
DJSprtsch, Hayneplane, PostmanHat, Shakes, Triley36 get 115 for Merlier & Kooij
80 points for the rest of the Merlier teams (and an extra couple for Dogboy through Kanter)
Then the other 4 Girmay teams, followed by the other nine Kooij teams
Samu has two unique picks in the top ten in Bittner and Pluimers

And the standings are very much the same
Top 4 the same as yesterday
Dogboy drops a couple of places to make the top 6 all Merlier + Kooij
and the top 15 all have Merlier.

And in terms of the Yellow points, it is pretty much the same story.
Merlier and Kooij gained places in the points classification: Girmay and Kanter lost some
De Bruynne losing 10 points was as major as it got in the GC position point differences.

So the daily fluctuations are largely as described in the green section.

And as far as the standings are concerned, Leadbelly overtakes Search for 3rd, and Kazistuta leaps 10 places to 5th. Hayneplane and Triley both have jumps of 7 places to get into 6th and 9th respectively
Farther down, PostmanHat, Shakes and Maglia Nera all move up at least 6 places, while DJW, Armchair, ZigZag and Slow Climber all drop at east 7 places.


If you want to know more, then I'm afraid I can only direct you to the spreadsheet. If you want the swings, order by column H, and by column B if you are looking for the Green standings.


And I've no idea where I stand for the rest of the game updates if I can't export tables...

 

[Schachus]

For me, I would still enjoy the update, if you just post your text commentary and link the excel, just as you did, thank you for the update!

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Yellow points
Standings of of last night (after stage 8)

Rank		Pts	+/-
1	Madrazo	1135	(-)
2	AmisVelo	1067	(-)
3	Leadbelly	1039	(+1)
4	Search	1022	(-1)
5	Kazistuta	1005	(+10)
6	Hayneplane	978	(+7)
7	TotalPackage	977	(-1)
8	Laarsland	969	(-1)
9	Triley36	966	(+7)
10	LosBrolin	965	(-5)
11	Del1962	956	(-2)
12	Schachus	949	(-2)
13	PostmanHat	933	(+7)
14	Shakes	932	(+8)
15	QueenStagiaire	921	(+2)
16	DevilsElbow	912	(+3)
17	BicycleBoy	880	(-6)
18	Nightowl	879	(-6)
19	DJW	876	(-11)
20	Ingsve	854	(-2)
21	Dogboy	839	(+4)
22	Mikks	828	(+5)
23	Armchair_Cyclist	827	(-9)
23	MagliaNera	827	(+6)
25	DJSprtsch	821	(+7)
26	IlMaestro	806	(+4)
27	SlowClimber	795	(-7)
28	Bminchow	783	(-4)
29	Josedin	756	(-2)
30	ZigZagWanderer	743	(-7)
31	Squire	723	(-5)
32	Avoriaz	716	(+2)
33	BluesInTheBottle	694	(-2)
34	BsAsCycling	637	(+1)
35	Vladimir	634	(-2)
36	Rufs	630	(-)
37	RedheadDane	624	(+4)
38	JumboVismaFan	595	(-2)
39	EvansIsTheBest	587	(-1)
40	Onizuka999	563	(-1)
41	SamuCuenca	558	(-1)
42	YellowKnight	497	(-)
43	Lecko	431	(-)
44	PeteTurbo2	301	(-)
	Collective_Wisdom	998
	Default	376
	Torito_y_amigos	855

Maybe all it needed was a reboot on my laptop: can't image why that should make the difference, but I don't know what else it might have been

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Green points

Standings last night

Rank		Pts	+/-
1	Kazistuta	429	(-)
2	PostmanHat	377	(-)
3	Hayneplane	372	(-)
4	Triley36	369	(-)
5	DJSprtsch	340	(+1)
6	Shakes	327	(+3)
7	Dogboy	323	(-2)
8	QueenStagiaire	304	(-1)
9	Del1962	294	(-1)
10	DevilsElbow	280	(-)

Maybe some optimism for this evening's update...

(If you saw the briefly posted version of this table with a load of coding nonsense, that was experimenting with pasting directly from Excel without running it through the converter, which was not successful)

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Stage 9

A breakaway chased harder than they probably expected.

Green points

Rare, but expensive, picks make a showing

Rider	pts	Teams
VAN DER POEL Mathieu	80	1
JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland	50	2
PIDCOCK Thomas	35	1
BAUDIN Alex	25	1
GANNA Filippo	15	1
PEDERSEN Mads	10	0
MATTHEWS Michael	5	3
BREUILLARD Nicolas	3	0
JEGAT Jordan	2	1
QUINN Sean	1	7

Daily gains

Two of those in joint second have THJ: PeteTurbo has Pidcock and Ganna

Rank		Pts
1	YellowKnight	80
2=	Onizuka999, RedheadDane, PeteTurbo2	50
5	Vladimir	25
6=	Hayneplane, SamuCuenca, SlowClimber	5
9	EvansIsTheBest	2
10	AmisVelo, Del1962, LosBrolin, Madrazo, QueenStagiaire, Search, TotalPackage	1

Standings

Because tomorrow is a rest day, here is everyone's position.

Rank		Pts	+/-
1	Kazistuta	429	(-)
2	PostmanHat	377	(-)
3	Hayneplane	377	(-)
4	Triley36	369	(-)
5	DJSprtsch	340	(-)
6	Shakes	327	(-)
7	Dogboy	323	(-)
8	QueenStagiaire	305	(-)
9	Del1962	295	(-)
10	RedheadDane	292	(+5)
11	DevilsElbow	280	(-1)
12	Schachus	279	(-1)
13	Mikks	279	(-2)
14	IlMaestro	270	(-1)
15	Avoriaz	261	(-1)
16	Leadbelly	224	(-)
16	Madrazo	224	(+1)
18	MagliaNera	223	(-1)
19	AmisVelo	198	(-)
20	Ingsve	196	(-)
21	Josedin	189	(-)
22	BicycleBoy	185	(-)
23	Laarsland	183	(-)
24	Nightowl	182	(-)
25	Rufs	171	(-)
26	Bminchow	167	(-)
27	TotalPackage	167	(-)
28	Lecko	163	(-)
29	Onizuka999	149	(+4)
30	YellowKnight	139	(+12)
31	BsAsCycling	139	(-2)
32	Search	121	(-2)
33	SamuCuenca	109	(-2)
34	PeteTurbo2	105	(+10)
35	DJW	103	(-3)
36	LosBrolin	100	(-3)
37	Vladimir	91	(+2)
38	JumboVismaFan	90	(-3)
39	ZigZagWanderer	85	(-3)
40	SlowClimber	79	(-2)
41	Armchair_Cyclist	77	(-4)
42	EvansIsTheBest	68	(-3)
43	BluesInTheBottle	63	(-2)
44	Squire	57	(-1)
	Collective_Wisdom	391
	Default	92
	Torito_y_amigos	153

I have applied the tie-breaker, which is the least reliance on a single rider, on this table to pairs on the same score So both Hayneplane and Postman Hat have Merlier and Kooij, but as the third place rider Hayneplane has Carapaz with 35 points, while Postman Hat relies less than that on 22 point Vauquelin, so PostmanHat gets second. The same principle is applied in the main classification.

LeadBelly and Madrazo have exactly the same scores from riders in this category, so there is a further tiebreaker (best finish by a rider with no top tens that they don't have in common), but that's a bit too much research for the sake of 16th and 17th at this stage tbh. (the next level of tiebreak in the main game os best placed rider that is not in the top 50)


Yellow points

Like in a sprint stage, breakaway wins often have little effect beyond stage points. Girmay passes Merlier in the points classification, with a 15 point move either way for their managers here, and riders outside the top ten may have gained a small something from Vacek dropping out of the main group. Vacek, and to a lesser extent Parra, Tejada and Higuita

Rider	pts	Teams
VAN DER POEL Mathieu	80	1
JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland	70	2
PIDCOCK Thomas	56	1
BAUDIN Alex	34	1
GANNA Filippo	15	1
GIRMAY HAILU Biniam	15	5
VERONA QUINTANILLA Carlos	14	4
VAUQUELIN Kévin	13	10
JORGENSON Matteo	12	1
DEBRUYNE Ramses	10	3
PARET PEINTRE Valentin	9	7
JEGAT Jordan	8	1
GROSSSCHARTNER Felix	7	1
VAN EETVELT Lennert	6	21
MATTHEWS Michael	5	3
SEIXAS Paul	-5	18
ARENSMAN Thymen	-6	2
VAN GILS Maxim	-9	9
MERLIER Tim	-15	16
TEJADA CANACUE Harold Alfonso	-15	2
HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres	-16	1
PARRA CUERDA Jose Felix	-16	4
VACEK Mathias	-99	1

Daily swing

Rank		Pts
1	YellowKnight	107
2	PeteTurbo2	78
3	Onizuka999	61
4	RedheadDane	40
5	Lecko	39
6	DJW	37
7	Ingsve	32
8	SlowClimber	24
9	EvansIsTheBest	23
10	Vladimir	20
11	Leadbelly	19
12	AmisVelo	14
13	Bminchow	13
14	TotalPackage	10
15	Rufs	8
16	Dogboy	7
17	Kazistuta	6
17	Madrazo	6
17	Search	6
20	IlMaestro	4
20	SamuCuenca	4
22	JumboVismaFan	2
22	Mikks	2
22	ZigZagWanderer	2
25	BicycleBoy	1
25	Nightowl	1
25	Squire	1
28	Laarsland	-1
28	PostmanHat	-1
30	Armchair_Cyclist	-3
31	Avoriaz	-4
32	Triley36	-5
33	Hayneplane	-6
34	BluesInTheBottle	-8
34	BsAsCycling	-8
36	Del1962	-9
36	DJSprtsch	-9
38	Josedin	-11
38	LosBrolin	-11
40	Shakes	-13
41	QueenStagiaire	-17
42	DevilsElbow	-18
43	MagliaNera	-23
44	Schachus	-104
	Collective_Wisdom	11
	Default	-2
	Torito_y_amigos	11

Standings

We've not seen major change, other than Kazistuta leaping up the table on sprint stages, for a while. As soon as there is any movement of position in the top ten on GC, that should change. But when might that be.

Rank		Pts	+/-
1	Madrazo	1141	(-)
2	AmisVelo	1081	(-)
3	Leadbelly	1058	(-)
4	Search	1028	(-)
5	Kazistuta	1011	(-)
6	TotalPackage	987	(+1)
7	Hayneplane	972	(-1)
8	Laarsland	968	(-)
9	Triley36	961	(-)
10	LosBrolin	954	(-)
11	Del1962	947	(-)
12	PostmanHat	932	(+1)
13	Shakes	919	(+1)
14	DJW	913	(+5)
15	QueenStagiaire	904	(-)
16	DevilsElbow	894	(-)
17	Ingsve	886	(+3)
18	BicycleBoy	881	(-1)
19	Nightowl	880	(-1)
20	Dogboy	846	(+1)
21	Schachus	845	(-9)
22	Mikks	830	(-)
23	Armchair_Cyclist	824	(-)
24	SlowClimber	819	(+3)
25	DJSprtsch	812	(-)
26	IlMaestro	810	(-)
27	MagliaNera	804	(-4)
28	Bminchow	796	(-)
29	Josedin	745	(-)
29	ZigZagWanderer	745	(+1)
31	Squire	724	(-)
32	Avoriaz	712	(-)
33	BluesInTheBottle	686	(-)
34	RedheadDane	664	(+3)
35	Vladimir	654	(-)
36	Rufs	638	(-)
37	BsAsCycling	629	(-3)
38	Onizuka999	624	(+2)
39	EvansIsTheBest	610	(-)
40	YellowKnight	604	(+2)
41	JumboVismaFan	597	(-3)
42	SamuCuenca	562	(-1)
43	Lecko	470	(-)
44	PeteTurbo2	379	(-)
	Collective_Wisdom	1009
	Default	374
	Torito_y_amigos	866

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

LeadBelly and Madrazo have exactly the same scores from riders in this category, so there is a further tiebreaker (best finish by a rider with no top tens that they don't have in common), but that's a bit too much research for the sake of 16th and 17th at this stage tbh. (the next level of tiebreak in the main game os best placed rider that is not in the top 50)

I subsequently looked it up: Leadbelly's Robbe Dhondt has the best such finish at 60th, so current 16th place belongs to him.

 

[Peteturbo2]

even with pidders and ganna i am determined not to let Lecko catch up with me.
Might Pidders have won without the mechanical? his hope must have been to do something downhill. trying to win a sprint vs VDP was a bit of a stretch. he has to be hunting a couple of wins and top ten.
on wednesday i was going to ask if i could sell him. he is still touch and go.........