AG2R Cryotherapy Recuperation

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/ag2r-using-cryotherapy-for-tour-de-france

The French team AG2R-La Mondiale will use cryotherapy to help enhance recovery during the Tour de France, the squad announced today.

Riders will endure three minutes in a special whole body suit, pioneered by Tec4H, which is filled with liquid nitrogen at -150 degrees Celsius.
This struck me as something interesting. I wonder how much benefit it will give, especially over three weeks.

And -150°C sounds pretty unbearable for three minutes.
 
May 13, 2009
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I take it, the suit has some sort of insulation between the liquid nitrogen @-150 C. So then the inner face of the insulation in contact with skin would be at a lower temperature. Sounds a bit scary, what if the suit leaks and skin gets in contact with liquid nitrogen?

Ice bath sounds safer
 
Jan 29, 2010
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Is this not the same thing that Alberto Salazar uses for Nike sponsored runners?
I seem to recall reading something like this treatment (in the last year) in which the runners would stand (or lie down) and then their bodies are flash frozen for X amount of time.
 
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indurain666
I take it, the suit has some sort of insulation between the liquid nitrogen @-150 C. So then the inner face of the insulation in contact with skin would be at a lower temperature. Sounds a bit scary, what if the suit leaks and skin gets in contact with liquid nitrogen?
+1

The journalists must have got this one wrong. 3 minutes at -150ºC would be deadly.

These suits may use liquid nitrogen, but it's hard to imagine a person being held at that temperature for 3 minutes.

From experience, 3 seconds in contact with something that cold will cause minor damage to the skin.
 
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Too lazy to look it up, but I am pretty sure machines like this use quick bursts of cold over a 3 minute period.

Something like 3 seconds of cold 10 seconds off, etc.
 
Liquid nitrogen on your skin for less than 5 seconds will induce burns. 3 minutes exposure will turn you into one big blister. There has to be an insulating layer, but why not just dunk into an ice bath or pour a cold water bottle over your head. As indurain666 said, there is a potential for a nasty accident to happen (think of whole sections of skin sliding off...)

Now, the cold air coming off liquid nitrogen is absolute heaven (I say this as I work in a very hot/humid place and get to use nitrogen everyday). If there is a micro-perforated layer between the liquid nitrogen and the skin, that would be lovely.
 
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nfmcgrath said:
Is this not the same thing that Alberto Salazar uses for Nike sponsored runners?
I seem to recall reading something like this treatment (in the last year) in which the runners would stand (or lie down) and then their bodies are flash frozen for X amount of time.
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krebs303 said:
Athletes freeze their bodies to -275 degrees to get an edge
Using a machine called a Cryosauna, the athlete stands in a tube filled with nitrogen gas at -275 degrees Fahrenheit for two minutes, causing blood to rush towards their vital organs.
 
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Damiano Machiavelli said:
It looks like Contador may already be using it.

is this from the 2011 Pirelli Cameltoe edition calendar?

Armstrong only sacrificed 1 testicle for his quest to increase his power to weight ratio. Pistolero underwent a mannequin merkin so he suffers from priape envy and needs to shoot his pistolero on conquering the mountain to compensate!
 
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I heard from a sports guru a few years back that cryo-chambers increase production of testostrone in the the body and that's the real reason sports teams use them!?!

Anyone else heard this?
 
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FFS people, it's nothing more than a pre-emptive smokescreen to explain some better than reasonably expected results this July. Cadence anyone???
 
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Cryotherapy

We run a Cryotherapy clinic in Sydney Australia, the treatment is being clinically trialled at the moment @Nike HQ in USA, with Olympic distance runners. It works in a different physiological way to an ice bath, your haemoglobin actually increases 24-72 hrs after therapy. Essentially your brain is tricked into survival, by passing the shivering mechanism in most people. Hope this helps....:rolleyes:
 
Cryolab said:
We run a Cryotherapy clinic in Sydney Australia, the treatment is being clinically trialled at the moment @Nike HQ in USA, with Olympic distance runners. It works in a different physiological way to an ice bath, your haemoglobin actually increases 24-72 hrs after therapy. Essentially your brain is tricked into survival, by passing the shivering mechanism in most people. Hope this helps....:rolleyes:
Ah, I can see it already.

"I have never touched PEDs, I'm only a 9 because my new cryo recovery".

(Altiitude was so last year).
 

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