Alps Murders (cycling related)

[Boeing]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...nce-to-tell-of-race-to-save-girl-8135798.html

The first man to stumble across the aftermath of the killings in the French Alps last week has broken his silence to describe the scene. He told of his fight to save the life of a seven-year-old British girl who collapsed bloodied in front of him, after the killers shot her parents, grandmother and a passing French cyclist.

 

[Microchip]

Read this tragic report. Tragic too for the man out for a ride innocently.

 

[FitSsikS]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...nce-to-tell-of-race-to-save-girl-8135798.html

The first man to stumble across the aftermath of the killings in the French Alps last week has broken his silence to describe the scene. He told of his fight to save the life of a seven-year-old British girl who collapsed bloodied in front of him, after the killers shot her parents, grandmother and a passing French cyclist.

DailyMailOnline

Could French victim of the Alpine massacre have been the main target? French police admit cyclist may have led 'double life' - He was hit by five bullets, including two to the head ---

-----Mr Mollier worked for Cezus, a subsidiary of the Areva Group, specialising in zirconium metalworking for nuclear fuel containers.

Cezus is owned by the Areva group which in 2007 was forced to deny a report in Der Spiegel that it had flouted UN sanctions by providing Iran with enriched uranium.-----

 

[rhubroma]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...nce-to-tell-of-race-to-save-girl-8135798.html

The first man to stumble across the aftermath of the killings in the French Alps last week has broken his silence to describe the scene. He told of his fight to save the life of a seven-year-old British girl who collapsed bloodied in front of him, after the killers shot her parents, grandmother and a passing French cyclist.

Awful story. Read about it the moment it happened and wondered if anyone had a thread up about it.

Talk about destiny and the unfortunate cyclist who passed the other cyclist, who was the first to arrive at the crime scene and live to tell about it. To say nothing of the hapless family and the poor girl who survived beneath her dead mother for hours until the police pulled her out of the car.

 

[Maxiton]

A sliver of Middle East carnage transported to the Alps, where the idyllic, peaceful landscape throws the savagery of this act into stark relief.

 

[rhubroma]

A sliver of Middle East carnage transported to the Alps, where the idyllic, peaceful landscape throws the savagery of this act into stark relief.

How poetic in the macabre and tragic senses.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

What I don't get is have they pieced together what happened? I don't understand from the article where the car was, what the family was doing there. Is this a remote area? Were they driving on a mountain road? It looks like dirt in the photo. The car was still running, right? I can't put together any logistics of it in my head.

 

[frenchfry]

What I don't get is have they pieced together what happened? I don't understand from the article where the car was, what the family was doing there. Is this a remote area? Were they driving on a mountain road? It looks like dirt in the photo. The car was still running, right? I can't put together any logistics of it in my head.

From what I remember of the news reports, it happened at a point where a small paved road turns into a dirt forest road. It sounds like a lot of hikers and mountain bikers pass by this point.

The above post that says the dead biker might have been the target is the first I have heard of this angle to the story, and a quick look at Le Monde website doesn't show this information. So far the reason for the killings is a mystery, but it was quick and violent.

Unrelated, but the hunting season just started, we have to watch out for drunk hunters that are everywhere. They tend to shoot each other more than unlucky cyclists though.

 

[hiero2]

A sliver of Middle East carnage transported to the Alps, where the idyllic, peaceful landscape throws the savagery of this act into stark relief.

Middle East carnage? Why not Irish? Or Somali? Or Sudanese? Or Serbian? or NYC?

I will agree that the "idyllic, peaceful landscape" stands out as "stark relief" to the act of violence.

 

[FitSsikS]

Middle East carnage? Why not Irish? Or Somali? Or Sudanese? Or Serbian? or NYC?

I will agree that the "idyllic, peaceful landscape" stands out as "stark relief" to the act of violence.

I would assume that "Middle East" came to mind as the victims had ties to Iraq and Iran.

But as I said that's just an assumption.

 

[frenchfry]

I would assume that "Middle East" came to mind as the victims had ties to Iraq and Iran.

But as I said that's just an assumption.

Could have been "Marseille" carnage as the cyclist victim was French.

Nothing in the news the past few days about this.

 

[Maxiton]

Middle East carnage? Why not Irish? Or Somali? Or Sudanese? Or Serbian? or NYC?

I will agree that the "idyllic, peaceful landscape" stands out as "stark relief" to the act of violence.

I would assume that "Middle East" came to mind as the victims had ties to Iraq and Iran.

But as I said that's just an assumption.

You are correct, sir. Had they been Irish, and if all Ireland were right now over run with carnage, I'd have said "sliver of Irish carnage".

 

[hiero2]

You are correct, sir. Had they been Irish, and if all Ireland were right now over run with carnage, I'd have said "sliver of Irish carnage".

I believe you, but I think one should take care with such characterizations. They tend to inflate emotional responses. Which is one of the reasons I mentioned Irish carnage - which has been great, and would generate a HUGE emotional response, and continued with Somali - where the carnage has been even greater, but it would generate 0 emotional response in the US and probably Britain.

 

[darkcloud]

and continued with Somali - where the carnage has been even greater, but it would generate 0 emotional response in the US and probably Britain.

Believe it or not, a "few" Americans are familiar with events in Somalia. The family was not reported as having Somali ties. Iraq WAS mentioned.
Why would you single out the US and Britain? What is YOUR agenda?😉

 

[hiero2]

and continued with Somali - where the carnage has been even greater, but it would generate 0 emotional response in the US and probably Britain.

Believe it or not, a "few" Americans are familiar with events in Somalia. The family was not reported as having Somali ties. Iraq WAS mentioned.
Why would you single out the US and Britain? What is YOUR agenda?😉

Not singling out any nationalities. I have no contacts and know little or nothing about the man in the street in other European countries. I could have added Oz or the Kiwis, as I have online acquaintances there, but again, I don't really know them - they are just online bits.

The poster who replied with "Marseilles carnage" was more spot-on than your comment is, since at least one of the victims was French. The natal country of the family that got killed is not really pertinent to a depiction of the level of carnage. As I've said, I believe it does everyone a disservice to use statements of that ilk - it increases the level of emotional response that is not rational, and encourages untruths.

As for a few Americans knowing something about Somalia, ok, I'll buy that. How many? Why don't you put a percent guesstimate on that one for us? Maybe you could go back and review how much time Somalia gets in our news, compared to how many people die, or live without infrastructure or government, not even having what we would call the basics? See if you can put some numbers to how many people in the US could successfully tell us what country is east of somalia? West? etc. Go for it.