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niterider

Jun 16, 2009
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Since requests from the faithful are seeming to be ignored for the most part, where's the best place to get our cycling news now?

Velonews sortof gets there, but not quite (not enough detail). Anyone have better suggestions for my new home page?
 
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krebs303 said:
I found this but none are as good as CN used to be. They all kind of look the same. Generic would be a good term. The King is dead with no heir apparant.

http://www.roadbikeaction.com/
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I agree...the new site is terrible...hey Editor, go back to your previous look...it's that simple...you guys were doing great and the new look does not work...don't tweak, just return to your former good page I have been returning to for eight years. It really is simple.
 
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CN's change is hot topic on the other cycling forums also. I sure traffic is up all over the net.
 
titan_90

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BroDeal said:
You guys are going a little over the top here. Give it some time. It is obvious they went live (way) before the site was ready for prime time, but they are making changes.
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I don't think we are going over the top at all. Technical problems I can deal with, but for many of us the spoiler issue is the deal breaker and they have stated that it is staying. So there really is no reason left for many of us to stay and give them some time to work all of the other issues out.
 
powerste

powerste

Jun 15, 2009
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+1,000 and then some.

Tech issues might end up resolved, and I'd give them time to work out navigation, white space, Flash, etc. But the Big Kahuna's clear statement that spoilers will always be on the front page means that CN now provides no value to me that I can't get elsewhere (without having to wait for the tech issues to be resolved).
 
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velo1225

Jun 18, 2009
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The Spoiler is the biggest problem. I will not read all those ads I used to see when I read the live race report. Velonews has all the rest of the info I want and I don't have to wait for the pages to load.
 
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cyclingnutz

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titan_90 said:
I have been searching myself and found a few possibilities for a home page but not a CN replacement.

I always liked:
http://www.cyclingfans.com/
http://www.podiumcafe.com/
http://www.steephill.tv/

New sites I have found:
http://www.bicycle.net/
http://cyclingnutz.com/
http://www.bikeworldnews.com/
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Thank you for liking our site (CyclingNutz) enough to mention it here. However, we are not trying to be a replacement for Cyclingnews. The sites focus is user contributed content and social networking. We are not into news gathering and reporting. We are mostly looking to be a place where the users are sharing their cycling related experiences.
 
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Lones1 said:
Here's another one

http://www.roadcycling.co.nz/

The way they show the results is great, an easy to read format, though there is no live ticker sadly. Click on the Tour de Suisse results link on the home page and see for yourself
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Very nice, a simple, clean design and nice black text on a white background.
 
Chappy

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Mar 15, 2009
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I am really sorry what has happened to CN, it has been my homepage for longer than I can remember. The site in NZ looks OK. Guess I wont be back any time soon.
 
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Lones1

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For us down under it looks like SBS can give us some useful information from my quick glance...

http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/

And the kiwi site is so easy to use as previously mentioned.
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Yes SBS Cyclingcentral has really improved and they are televising the Tour de France on SBS2 this year. Does anyone know if it is going to start earlier and give us the whole stage, or only from 10:30pm as usual?
 
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titan_90 said:
I always liked:
http://www.cyclingfans.com/
http://www.steephill.tv/

New sites I have found:
http://www.bicycle.net/
http://cyclingnutz.com/
http://www.bikeworldnews.com/
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Cycling news short and sweet: http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/cycling/

Spectacular photos, presented in race sequence, nice results summary on last page. Sort of a tale of the race. Very nice complement to live action: http://www.grahamwatson.com/2009/tds/coverpage.html

Flashy: http://www.universalsports.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=23000&SPID=13044&SPSID=105618

Nice video recaps of races, Post-race interviews,preview of next stage, blogs from Bob Roll, Robbie Ventura, Paul Sherwen: http://www.versus.com/cyclysm

The only good thing about this is I've been able to see other sites. Nothing like the old CN, but interesting.
 
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lanceolot

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http://www.steephill.tv - Great site with various video feeds

http://www.pedalmag.com - Canadian site, folksy

http://www.canadiancyclist.com - Simple and quick, good interviews

http://www.dailypeloton.com - Old standby

http://www.cqranking.com - Great stats for individual riders and teams, UIC results

http://www.velonews.com - Pretty good

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com - A bit geekish

http://www.grahamwatson.com/newimages.html - The best, but only major races

groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/topics?lnk - One guy here posts pretty good major race summaries with daily changes in time and placings, worth it just for that.

uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/cycling - This looks pretty good, just found it.

google cyclingnews - See what you come up with

Sorry, nothing as good as the old cyclingnews site.:(
 
laura.weislo

laura.weislo

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lanceolot said:
Sorry, nothing as good as the old cyclingnews site.:(
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I understand everyone's pain with this transition - believe me, it's been hard on the Cyclingnews production editors, too.

You may not realize just how much we care about this job - for years we have engaged in a single-minded pursuit to post every UCI race result in the world plus all the big national events and (until recently) as many local results as we could find time to post.

We scoured the internet for every news story, traveled the world to cover races, exhausted our contacts to bring you exclusive stories, features and interviews and brought unique perspectives through diaries of riders - big and small.

I do not believe any one of those sites offers the breadth of content that Cyclingnews does. And right now, the same editors who have slaved over their computers to bring you the thousands and thousands of pages that made up the old site are still slaving away - just in a different platform.

(If you had a problem with the current staff, well, can't help you there!)

Sure, the navigation is different. Many think it is not better, but it is a monumental task to share the wide variety of content we post to you in a simple way.

The old site had everything right up front - but do you know how much you missed that might have been interesting to you because it was buried in a link like "Tour de Backwater - brief results"? Maybe your best friend won the Tour de Backwater, but you might not know it and never click that link.

There are a lot of advantages to the new system, and yes - those of you who pointed out that it was rolled out prematurely are right - it really wasn't quite ready and we're still finding new bugs and issues.

But can we get kudos please for finally joining the 21st century and incorporating RSS feeds? We've gotten at least 2 emails per day for the past year and a half asking for them and now you've got it.

Is it right for people on this forum to complain to the advertisers who help to pay our salaries just because you have issues with the new look? I remember once upon a time there was a rider for a team who made someone mad by acting like a jerk. Someone contacted the sponsor to complain and lo and behold, that team no longer exists.

I think, dear readers, that you forget the people who do the work to post the content on Cyclingnews are as passionate about the sport as you are. Just because we've been forced to modernize our clunky 1990's design to fit with today's internet isn't a reason to try to shut us down.

In my opinion, it's not even a reason to give up visiting the site. No English-language site out there gives you more race results, more news, more photos or more features in one place.

Please try to have patience as we all tackle this transition together. It might take some time to get to where we're all happy. Believe me, when Gerard Knapp redesigned the early 90s site to a late-90's site he got just as many complaints, but you all grew to love it.

When we finally get the system ironed out, we should finally have a database-driven results system which will allow you to click on a rider's name and see his/her palmares. And remember CN's old search tool? That thing was completely useless. The new system will (eventually) allow for a more robust search engine which will make it a lot easier to find archived content.

In short, yes - we all miss the old site. It was familiar and comfortable, like those oversized t-shirts and leggings I used to wear in the 90s. But it was frumpy and unsophisticated. Like it or not, that look was designed when the site had thousands of readers. Now we have millions and in order to reach a broader audience we have to grow up and into the corporate world and start wearing skirts and heels.

If you feel more comfortable sharing your passion with other sites, we wish you well. But the beauty of the internet is that there are all levels of sites and time enough to click on them all. We hope you'll find that Cyclingnews is as irresistible as ever...

Thanks.
Laura
 
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coachkev

Jun 15, 2009
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well said Laura, but...

laura.weislo said:
I understand everyone's pain with this transition - believe me, it's been hard on the Cyclingnews production editors, too.

You may not realize just how much we care about this job - for years we have engaged in a single-minded pursuit to post every UCI race result in the world plus all the big national events and (until recently) as many local results as we could find time to post.

We scoured the internet for every news story, traveled the world to cover races, exhausted our contacts to bring you exclusive stories, features and interviews and brought unique perspectives through diaries of riders - big and small.

I do not believe any one of those sites offers the breadth of content that Cyclingnews does. And right now, the same editors who have slaved over their computers to bring you the thousands and thousands of pages that made up the old site are still slaving away - just in a different platform.

(If you had a problem with the current staff, well, can't help you there!)

Sure, the navigation is different. Many think it is not better, but it is a monumental task to share the wide variety of content we post to you in a simple way.

The old site had everything right up front - but do you know how much you missed that might have been interesting to you because it was buried in a link like "Tour de Backwater - brief results"? Maybe your best friend won the Tour de Backwater, but you might not know it and never click that link.

There are a lot of advantages to the new system, and yes - those of you who pointed out that it was rolled out prematurely are right - it really wasn't quite ready and we're still finding new bugs and issues.

But can we get kudos please for finally joining the 21st century and incorporating RSS feeds? We've gotten at least 2 emails per day for the past year and a half asking for them and now you've got it.

Is it right for people on this forum to complain to the advertisers who help to pay our salaries just because you have issues with the new look? I remember once upon a time there was a rider for a team who made someone mad by acting like a jerk. Someone contacted the sponsor to complain and lo and behold, that team no longer exists.

I think, dear readers, that you forget the people who do the work to post the content on Cyclingnews are as passionate about the sport as you are. Just because we've been forced to modernize our clunky 1990's design to fit with today's internet isn't a reason to try to shut us down.

In my opinion, it's not even a reason to give up visiting the site. No English-language site out there gives you more race results, more news, more photos or more features in one place.

Please try to have patience as we all tackle this transition together. It might take some time to get to where we're all happy. Believe me, when Gerard Knapp redesigned the early 90s site to a late-90's site he got just as many complaints, but you all grew to love it.

When we finally get the system ironed out, we should finally have a database-driven results system which will allow you to click on a rider's name and see his/her palmares. And remember CN's old search tool? That thing was completely useless. The new system will (eventually) allow for a more robust search engine which will make it a lot easier to find archived content.

In short, yes - we all miss the old site. It was familiar and comfortable, like those oversized t-shirts and leggings I used to wear in the 90s. But it was frumpy and unsophisticated. Like it or not, that look was designed when the site had thousands of readers. Now we have millions and in order to reach a broader audience we have to grow up and into the corporate world and start wearing skirts and heels.

If you feel more comfortable sharing your passion with other sites, we wish you well. But the beauty of the internet is that there are all levels of sites and time enough to click on them all. We hope you'll find that Cyclingnews is as irresistible as ever...

Thanks.
Laura
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There is still the issue of the spoilers. That is not something that was a necessary change. Nor, was it necessary to make the new look so cluttered. I know you are not the site designer. But, at least please understand that there are legitimate concerns of the users beyond just the style and look of the new site.
 
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