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ASO enquired about buying RCS Races

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Roude Leiw

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Yes do, and then sell the TV rights as a package and share with the teams. win Win for the sport
 
WillemS

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Roude Leiw said:
Yes do, and then sell the TV rights as a package and share with the teams. win Win for the sport
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So, you want a commercial organization to gain a market share so large that the organization almost qualifies as a monopolist, while expecting them to act as a non-profit sport organization, voluntarily yielding a substantial part of their profit in favor of the professional/commercial teams?

I'm not so, let's say, optimistic about that as you are.

(Or do I have to calibrate my sarcasm meter?)
 
Roude Leiw

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I am quite serious, no sarcasm intended. This would more or less copy the set up of the Formula 1. monopolist for the races inside a sporting body which shares part of its revenues with those that are needed for the show (if i might call it a show). I think that would seriously help in:
- getting decent TV coverage for the races
- give the teams a substantial source of revenues outside of sponsorship

Now if this new money would be blown on increased salaries, this might not help, but on the other hand, the US sport franchises show that a salary cap might work in a closed environment.
 
the asian

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Well, the ASO can **** off to hell.

Hope RCS solves it's governance and financial problems. Then there won't be much interference.

Don't want the Italian races to turn in to soulless, lifeless borefests like most of the French ones.
 
dolophonic

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I am failing to see why this would be a good thing....

This seems to be a way of the ASo strenghtening their control of cycling and making any "breakaway" league impossible.
 
Race Radio

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dolophonic said:
I am failing to see why this would be a good thing....

This seems to be a way of the ASo strenghtening their control of cycling and making any "breakaway" league impossible.
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Agreed, I can't see it. Kinda scary.

But it would open up an lot of drama if they did do it. I can image the chaos of the Italians and French working together, fighting 24/7
 
Arnout

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Roude Leiw said:
I am quite serious, no sarcasm intended. This would more or less copy the set up of the Formula 1. monopolist for the races inside a sporting body which shares part of its revenues with those that are needed for the show (if i might call it a show). I think that would seriously help in:
- getting decent TV coverage for the races
- give the teams a substantial source of revenues outside of sponsorship

Now if this new money would be blown on increased salaries, this might not help, but on the other hand, the US sport franchises show that a salary cap might work in a closed environment.
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There is no TV share to hand out to the teams, that's a myth. Only Tour makes money, and maybe some big one day races and the Giro. Most races are money sinks themselves and need sponsors to be able to exist.

ASO buying RCS would be terrible. Look what they did to the Dauphiné, they will just slowly degrade all races to second tier to put more and more focus on the Tour most likely.
 
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Roude Leiw said:
I am quite serious, no sarcasm intended. This would more or less copy the set up of the Formula 1. monopolist for the races inside a sporting body which shares part of its revenues with those that are needed for the show (if i might call it a show). I think that would seriously help in:
- getting decent TV coverage for the races
- give the teams a substantial source of revenues outside of sponsorship

Now if this new money would be blown on increased salaries, this might not help, but on the other hand, the US sport franchises show that a salary cap might work in a closed environment.
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I cant believe anybody on this forum would be this naive and expect ASO to share their profits. Monopoly is bad for any business and they would treat the teams with even more cocky attitude.
 
Libertine Seguros

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Yea, because the F1 model worked so well, with them getting rid of races in places with a century of motorsports history to spend over half the calendar in featureless, monotonous white elephants in countries with no history or tradition of the sport, and where they have to do things like bus in fans at their own expense to give even the illusion of a quarter full stand. A couple of years ago they sold 7000 tickets for the Turkish GP. 7000! And all the while all the fans in France - the home of the sport - had to drive to Spa or Catalunya if they wanted to see anything.

What the ASO has done to the Dauphiné is kill it. It used to be a prestigious race in its own right, now it's a Tour visua with World Tour points. Maybe if RCS are given a bit of autonomy under the ASO umbrella we can keep some of the character of the Italian races, but if it goes full ***, we can expect Monte Grappa with a 60km flat run in and every year a stage into France to use those criminally underused climbs like Galibier and Alpe d'Huez as a warmup for the only race that counts, Le Tour.

Half the money will get ****ed away on Paris-Dakar anyway.
 
Afrank

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Would really hate to see ASO become even more dominate in cycling, they're already dominate enough (or maybe even too much). Really hope this is nothing but a rumor. Cycling doesn't need one company to have so much control over so many races.
 
GuyIncognito

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Roude Leiw said:
I am quite serious, no sarcasm intended. This would more or less copy the set up of the Formula 1. monopolist for the races inside a sporting body which shares part of its revenues with those that are needed for the show (if i might call it a show). I think that would seriously help in:
- getting decent TV coverage for the races
- give the teams a substantial source of revenues outside of sponsorship

Now if this new money would be blown on increased salaries, this might not help, but on the other hand, the US sport franchises show that a salary cap might work in a closed environment.
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You clearly don't know much about F1's current situation.

Every team is screaming their lungs out that the current model is unsustainable, everyone except Red Bull is in deep money woes and even a large section of fanbase are begging the teams to boycott races due to the way CVC is driving the sport into the ground long term
 
Ryo Hazuki

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Roude Leiw said:
I am quite serious, no sarcasm intended. This would more or less copy the set up of the Formula 1. monopolist for the races inside a sporting body which shares part of its revenues with those that are needed for the show (if i might call it a show). I think that would seriously help in:
- getting decent TV coverage for the races
- give the teams a substantial source of revenues outside of sponsorship

Now if this new money would be blown on increased salaries, this might not help, but on the other hand, the US sport franchises show that a salary cap might work in a closed environment.
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formula 1 is terrible. why would anyone want that for cycling?
 
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