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Australian Summer of Cycling: Nationals, Bay series Crits & other races

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auscyclefan94

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Australian Summer of Cycling: Nationals, Bay series Crits & other races. Just thought I would combine the races into one thread for less congestion. because this will be a race thread it would be much appreciated if a Mod could make this thread Sticky

Australian national Road race course - google maps

Australian national Championships official website - Follow links to find profiles of events

Jayco Bay Series Criterium Series

New Australian National TT Course - google maps

Highlights from TeamSkyFans of NSW GP Series

More to come...
 
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Jayco should be fun, and hopefully highlights again like last year.

Highlights of last weekends 5 race nsw gp series are up on tsf and tsf's youtube youtube.com/teamskyfans2
 
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Channel 1 HD is in Sydney so if you want info email Cycling Australia and write to the media liasion officer who will find out for you Maybe.

If you get the info before i do share it on forum please.

Other info like Championships try SBS and John Cravens office may help http://www.caribou publications.com.au
 
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I tweeted OneHD about if they are televising them like last year but got no response. Now get back to sleep Dim!:D

Cavendish banned from riding TDU warmup races
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Turtur is an ****.

It's a classic case of South Australia v Victoria rivalry. He doesn't want his drawcards to race in Victoria purely because he is in South Australia. Anyone that can't see that is naive.

I would be willing to risk money that if the Nationals were in South Australia, he would let them ride.
 
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Sasquatch said:
Turtur is an ****.

It's a classic case of South Australia v Victoria rivalry. He doesn't want his drawcards to race in Victoria purely because he is in South Australia. Anyone that can't see that is naive.

I would be willing to risk money that if the Nationals were in South Australia, he would let them ride.
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Well, hang on - lets be fair about it. I agree its a dumb situation but its not really a bloddy-minded SA vs Vic thing. The TDU has paid the teams to fly out here to do their race. I think the real case may be that his opinion is that if other races want the riders to turn up and ride then they should contribute to that cost each year.
 
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Well, hang on - lets be fair about it. I agree its a dumb situation but its not really a bloddy-minded SA vs Vic thing. The TDU has paid the teams to fly out here to do their race. I think the real case may be that his opinion is that if other races want the riders to turn up and ride then they should contribute to that cost each year.
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Yeah but Caribou have a limited budget and let's be frank about it. If it weren't for John Craven, Australian domestic cycling would be dead and buried with the amount of races he runs. So I think Turtur should be working with him to allow him to have these riders race. But Tutur is only looking after himself again and his pocket.

Why do you think the Herald Sun Tour couldn't move to February? Turtur was one of the guys that stopped it from happening. Yes they would have lost their historical ranking, but if the right people were on the board, that shouldn't have been an issue. I find it no coincidence that Turtur is on the Oceania board and the HST couldn't move to February.

I know the HST isn't run by Craven, but at the end of the day Turtur only cares about his race and noone else.
 
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That part is more true. He should certainly be working more closely with John as between them they cover the promotion of most of the big Aus races.

The other part I was reacting to though is that I dont think he would release riders to do the nationals, even if they were in Adelaide 2 days before the start of the TDU.

I don't think he is the state version of a nationalist, I just think he is a bit of a well.... <left unsaid>
 
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Agree it is not a State V State thing, it is just Turtur. I agree with John Craven in that Turtur is not interested in development of Cycling, he has shown that to be so many times. Turter is a promotor for profit, not a promotor of Cycling.

Don't have much time for him unfortunatly.
 
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Not a fan of the new ITT course. Far to flat, no real hard climbs, shame
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agreed. it is also in the middle of nowhere and you'll have to park far away from the course to watch the event. The area surrounding the course is just farmland. Original courrse was a good, hard course. It is also far too straight. A bit more technical would be better.

Did any of you check out the google maps of the course? There is a slight error that I couldn't avoid from B to C I think.
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Turtur is an ****.

It's a classic case of South Australia v Victoria rivalry. He doesn't want his drawcards to race in Victoria purely because he is in South Australia. Anyone that can't see that is naive.

I would be willing to risk money that if the Nationals were in South Australia, he would let them ride.
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100% agree. If I ever met the guy I would boo him. So it is interesting to hear that he is paying Cav. Don't see how paying riders is the way to making tdu a sustainable event.
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Exciting!

Anyone going to Ballarat for the NC's?
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Possibly - I will be the guy who will be supporting Tim Roe (BMC) crazily.
 
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Yeah but Caribou have a limited budget and let's be frank about it. If it weren't for John Craven, Australian domestic cycling would be dead and buried with the amount of races he runs. So I think Turtur should be working with him to allow him to have these riders race. But Tutur is only looking after himself again and his pocket.

Why do you think the Herald Sun Tour couldn't move to February? Turtur was one of the guys that stopped it from happening. Yes they would have lost their historical ranking, but if the right people were on the board, that shouldn't have been an issue. I find it no coincidence that Turtur is on the Oceania board and the HST couldn't move to February.

I know the HST isn't run by Craven, but at the end of the day Turtur only cares about his race and noone else.
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Craven is managing this for Cycling Australia its open National championship if you have a licence and a club top you can ride its open to everyone.

The hard bit is trying to stay with Mat Lloyd on that hill if you cant do that you need something else or do what I do sit and watch from the corner pub it has great air con and good view.
 
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Craven is managing this for Cycling Australia its open National championship if you have a licence and a club top you can ride its open to everyone.

The hard bit is trying to stay with Mat Lloyd on that hill if you cant do that you need something else or do what I do sit and watch from the corner pub it has great air con and good view.
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Yeah I'm aware of that. I'll ride it in a few years as fun. I'm just saying that Craven and Tutur need to work together a bit. It was stupid on HTC's part anyway. They should have said to Turtur that they're only bringing Cav on the proviso he can ride in the nationals, albeit a few laps.

Hell the Aussies on here should train up, get a licence and enter in a couple years.
 
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Australian Track Nationals are on at the end of Jan/start of Feb - will be volunteering my time there as it's in Sydney.
 
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It's either Porte or Meyer for the time trial.

With Porte having bigger fish to fry, Tour de France etc, he may not be in peak condition for the time trial leaving Meyer in the box position.

Rogers is the danger as he doesn't need to worry about July.

Durbridge should take the under 23!
 
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It's either Porte or Meyer for the time trial.

With Porte having bigger fish to fry, Tour de France etc, he may not be in peak condition for the time trial leaving Meyer in the box position.

Rogers is the danger as he doesn't need to worry about July.

Durbridge should take the under 23!
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Kinda would not like it to be meyer as I want to see the guy across europe more often instead of being on the road and track. A guy who will get results in the jersey.

Same with RR. Hardly saw Travis Meyer in our national jersey this year.
 
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In defence of Turtur (and I have no connection to him, but understand how these things work), the TdU is sponsored by the South Australian Government/SA Tourism. If all his drawcard riders can ride in Victoria, what incentive is there for any Victorians to travel to SA?

And the Nats should be a great field - my prediciton, Bridie O'Donnell - hopefully for the double. Sorry, was that womens racing discussed! Best interview from the WC's camp.
 
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Will Clarke is my smokey for the road race.

It all depends on the nature of the teams. Last year Fly V had about 5 riders in the break, Garmin had one, and some of the other teams had a couple. Fly V had about 10 riders in the race.

That nullified Cam Meyer and Bobridge from doing the work.
That nullified FLy V from doing the work.
That nullfied a couple other teams leaving only Astana with the Davis brothers and Columbia with 3 riders left to do the bulk of the work and thus the break was going to survive.

If Pegasus have the highest number again, they will send 4 or 5 up the road and if some of the other stronger teams are represented, the break will battle it out. If Pegasus send 4 or 5 up the road, then other teams should respond and bring a rider up. No one thought of that last year. I told some people pre-race that the race will end up like that. Funnily enough, it did.

Wouldn't surprise me if the same happened again in 2011.
 
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