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Franklin said:Absolutely iron clad! The thing that Basso had to be on his bike three hours longer scaling more passes is absolutely irrelevant!
*shakes head*
karlboss said:actually it seems to be almost irrelevant, check the times of the mountain time trial at alpe d'huez against some of the other performance those riders have put in.
issoisso said:This.
We're having a similar discussion on another forum.
Going "back in time" to check the biggest differences in VAM between consecutive years on the same final climb, we only see at the very most (and these are the extreme cases) a difference of 40-50 m/h.
Even accounting for that difference, Basso's performance is quite inferior.
don't confuse this discussion with facts!ludwig said:For anyone that is curious about these issues in good faith, it's instructive to compare the difficulty of the stages...
http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/93rd-giro-ditalia-gt/stage-15
222 km stage, Zonoclan preceded by 3 sharp climbs.
http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/road/2007/giro07/?id=stages/giro0717
142 km stage, no significant difficulties before the Zonoclan.
Conclusion: the comparison of Zonoclan times doesn't mean anything, as the difficulty and length of the stages being compared are radically different.
karlboss said:actually it seems to be almost irrelevant, check the times of the mountain time trial at alpe d'huez against some of the other performance those riders have put in.
El Imbatido said:I don't remember the 07 Giro (it one of the ones i don't have in my collection yet) but someone in another thread said they climbed i from the other side in 07. I don't know how true this is but if it is it is a major flaw in this comparison.
SpartacusRox said:Can't be bothered with all this doping innuendo crap that goes on everytime a guy busts his *** up a big climb.
Basso was awesome today and it was great to watch, I've always liked the guy as a rider and it was good to see him in top form. All power to him. Between the Giro and the ToC, LG are having a great time at the moment.
Cadel rode really well too and it was good to see him gutsing it out right to the end. Wiggins...hmm not looking good for the tour given the stages we have this year.
gatete said:It's funny but I like basso, I always have, and yes he was awesome today, do I think he's doping, I don't know, but I tend to be more lenient towards the likes Ivan and Marco (Pantani that is) even though there is that iron clad proof of their doping, I just goes to see how hyprocite sometimes fans are, (including me off course)
santacruz said:The real question should be what would MY time be up Zoncolan? I am 27 y/o, 180lbs, Cat4. 47mins??
santacruz said:The real question should be what would MY time be up Zoncolan? I am 27 y/o, 180lbs, Cat4. 47mins??
wattage said:Well if Basso indeed was at 5,5w/kg the I think cycling might have some hope. But Id still love to see what Bassos SRM says.
santacruz said:The real question should be what would MY time be up Zoncolan? I am 27 y/o, 180lbs, Cat4. 47mins??