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Arnout said:You're missing all
Chicken has never been the best climber though. Even in that Tour he wasn't.
Edit: Ah, there they are. Well, what's your definition of active?
Arnout said:Chicken has never been the best climber though. Even in that Tour he wasn't.
Altitude said:Not sure how much The Chicken has left, but he was the best 3 years ago. I'd go with Ricco, although Mosquera was really impressive in the Vuelta.
If you select "other" please say who-- I'm sure I'm missing some.
The Hitch said:Im a big Mosquera fan but hes not in their league.
The top 3 are Basso Andy and Contador
Basso might be the best on the extreme climbs. I dont care what the fanboys say, Contador would not beat Basso on the Zonc. But Schleck maybe would.
Schleck was the better climber in the Tour but only just. But then he did leave it all for the Tourmalet. It is his fault i know and it cost him the Tour but it doesnt make him less of a climber. He was more comfortable on the longer climbs. Did set pace all the way up the Tourmalet, bear that in mind and got 10 seconds on Morzine.
Contador is the bes all round, short and longer. He is better on shorter but his display on the Tourmalet shows he can hang in there on longer ones. Typically though he gains time on shorter climbs. Last year Verbier and Arcalis. This year Col Laurent Jallabert. Hes unbeatable on those. Schleck was left for dead. Also Pari Nice, same climb. I didnt think hed manage to beat the Caisse 1 2 but by god he did it.
Contador gets my vote because he can hang in on longer climbs while put time in on shorter ones. But the tougher the climb the more it leans towards Schleck.
The Hitch said:For future refference, when making polls select the option to allow us to which poster votes for which option. Seeing which posers voted for say Contador is as important than seeing a figure saying 33.6 % or some such.
Altitude said:Is it possible to change it now?
Altitude said:I'd put Mosquera up against anyone on the steepest of climbs. I agree with you on Basso, he can grind his way up a climb like nobody else.
Contador has a wicked acceleration, but hes nothing special on longer, steady grades (by nothing special I mean not top 5 in the world).
Cerberus said:And who excactly would be the 5 riders who are better than him on longer steady climbs? I can see Andy as looking very slightly stronger on this years Tour and possibly Basso, though I'm not convinced, but who are the remaining three?
Altitude said:All of the above riders, including Menchov. Contador's specialty is steep climbs with fluctuating gradients, where nobody can find a rhythm. He doesn't like the shallow, steady climbs (see stage 7 of this years Tour).
The Hitch said:And how is Frank Schleck there whil Igor Anton who crushed him on the 5 mountains they rode in the Vuelta, is not.
jens_attacks said:how sad is that?those fuccin morons who rule this sport never gave us the chance to see all these climbers together battling in the mountains.
Christian said:Three words: Le Grand Bornand.
If F. Schleck and Anton had competed in the Tour, Schleck would have crushed Anton on every mountain.
Contador and A. Schleck are definitely the best climbers in the Tour de France, but in other races they are both beatable (especially Andy). Judging from this year's Tour I voted for Andy.