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Better Win: Nibali 2014 TdF or Gilbert 2017 RVV

Better Win?

  • Gilbert 2017 RVV where Sagan and GVA crashed

    Votes: 19 50.0%
  • Nibali 2014 TdF where Froome and Contador crashed

    Votes: 19 50.0%

  • Total voters
    38
Easy. Tour >>> Flanders (unless you're Flemish, of course). Well, actually it depends what you mean by "better" - more impressive, more prestigious, etc..

Btw, you have to delete a poll option, save, then re-add it for the poll to work.
 
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Gigs_98 said:
PremierAndrew said:
Neither of them wouldve won without those crashes, but at least Gilbert was arguably the best rider on the startlist in the first place
I think you are underestimating 2014 Nibali a bit. It's possible that would have been beaten but you are saying that as if thats for sure.

That seems to be the way to express an opinion on this forum these days :lol:

But fwiw, Contador was able to drop Nibs off his wheel on a cat 3 before crashing out. Even without a temporary alliance between Froome and Contador, the 2 mins Nibs gained on the cobbles wouldnt have lasted long on the harder stuff
 
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Not comparable. Guy won 4 stages and with 7min advantage! To top that you need a Ronde/Roubaix double, no solo ride can challenge that!
 
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Mr.White said:
Not comparable. Guy won 4 stages and with 7min advantage! To top that you need a Ronde/Roubaix double, no solo ride can challenge that!

The two best riders, besides Nibali, crashed out, so it's not that surprising he won with such an advantage.

Philippe Gilbert won the Ronde van Vlaanderen with a solo of 56 km, the longest since Eddy Merckx in 1969. I'm sure Armstrong won a couple of Tours with a bigger advantage than that. So Nibali's win is more prestigious, but Gilbert's win is more impressive.

Tour de France > 2 wins in the Ronde van Vlaanderen (just barely)
3 wins in the Ronde van Vlaanderen (shared record holder) >> Tour de France

That's how I rank the races in general.
 
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PremierAndrew said:
Gigs_98 said:
PremierAndrew said:
Neither of them wouldve won without those crashes, but at least Gilbert was arguably the best rider on the startlist in the first place
I think you are underestimating 2014 Nibali a bit. It's possible that would have been beaten but you are saying that as if thats for sure.

That seems to be the way to express an opinion on this forum these days :lol:

But fwiw, Contador was able to drop Nibs off his wheel on a cat 3 before crashing out. Even without a temporary alliance between Froome and Contador, the 2 mins Nibs gained on the cobbles wouldnt have lasted long on the harder stuff
Nibali has always been better on longer climbs than sorter climbs. The times he put in Risoul and Hautacam (especially this one) were more than enough to stay with Bertie and 2013 Froome.
 
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El Pistolero said:
Mr.White said:
Not comparable. Guy won 4 stages and with 7min advantage! To top that you need a Ronde/Roubaix double, no solo ride can challenge that!

The two best riders, besides Nibali, crashed out, so it's not that surprising he won with such an advantage.

Philippe Gilbert won the Ronde van Vlaanderen with a solo of 56 km, the longest since Eddy Merckx in 1969. I'm sure Armstrong won a couple of Tours with a bigger advantage than that. So Nibali's win is more prestigious, but Gilbert's win is more impressive.

Tour de France > 2 wins in the Ronde van Vlaanderen (just barely)
3 wins in the Ronde van Vlaanderen (shared record holder) >> Tour de France

That's how I rank the races in general.

But basically we agree, which is some sort of a miracle :razz: