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'Biggest anti-doping investigation in the history of sport'

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Maybe this is what LA was waiting for, or maybe even why his sponsors got out en-masse.
This is insane.
 
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too long to give you a complete translation, I'll just make a recap.

The investigation started in 2010 and it is about to be closed by the end of this month. Thousands of pages of documents, interceptions, perquisitions, etc.
This investigation found out a huge business (estimated in 30 millions of euros) of doping-related, tax-free money through Switzerland, Monaco, Gibraltar, even South America.
It seems Ferrari used to provide not only doping per se, but also legal assistance (in both teams-to-riders contracts and defense in doping trials). The banks involved are UBS and Credit Suisse.
The article then gives a lot of details, pointing out a society in Monaco, T&F Sport Management, that is the key of the dirt traffic, including false riders-teams contracts, generating tax-free money to advantage of both riders (named Scarponi, Menchov, Kolobnev, Gusev, Karpets, Ignatiev, Petrov e Ongarato) and teams (Liquigas, Lampre, Colnago, Geox, Androni, Katusha, Quick Step, Cnf-Inox, Farnese Vini, Acqua&Sapone, Astana, RadioShack, Vacansoleil, Isd, Csf, Lpr, Diquigiovanni, Tinkoff, Rabobank, Gerolsteiner, Milram).
In particular , the article cites the contract of Pellizzotti and ALL those of Astana (the proof is inside Popovych's computer apparently)
 
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Eshnar said:
too long to give you a complete translation, I'll just make a recap.

The investigation started in 2010 and it is about to be closed by the end of this month. Thousands of pages of documents, interceptions, perquisitions, etc.
This investigation found out a huge business (estimated in 30 millions of euros) of doping-related, tax-free money through Switzerland, Monaco, Gibraltar, even South America.
It seems Ferrari used to provide not only doping per se, but also legal assistance (in both teams-to-riders contracts and defense in doping trials). The banks involved are UBS and Credit Suisse.
The article then gives a lot of details, pointing out a society in Monaco, T&F Sport Management, that is the key of the dirt traffic, including false riders-teams contracts, generating tax-free money to advantage of both riders (named Scarponi, Menchov, Kolobnev, Gusev, Karpets, Ignatiev, Petrov e Ongarato) and teams (Liquigas, Lampre, Colnago, Geox, Androni, Katusha, Quick Step, Cnf-Inox, Farnese Vini, Acqua&Sapone, Astana, RadioShack, Vacansoleil, Isd, Csf, Lpr, Diquigiovanni, Tinkoff, Rabobank, Gerolsteiner, Milram).
In particular , the article cites the contract of Pellizzotti and ALL those of Astana (the proof is inside Popovych's computer apparently)
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Wow...and I thought the reasoned decision was huge. Looks like this could take down more than just a few riders.
 
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Fantastico. Now the hard part is making it stick in Italy before it runs outside SOL, which a rich flipper like Ferarri mught be able to do!

But I hope all the info gets released about the Directeur Sportifs involved more so than the riders!
 
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Seems like this investigation focuses more on the financial aspects of the dope conspiracies. Very interesting if all that can be proven though. Maybe more pain to come to the riders involved than if it was just about abuse of illegal substances - countries don't **** around with tax-fraud and money laundering...
 
Eshnar

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spalco said:
Seems like this investigation focuses more on the financial aspects of the dope conspiracies. Very interesting if all that can be proven though. Maybe more pain to come to the riders involved than if it was just about abuse of illegal substances - countries don't **** around with tax-fraud and money laundering...
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especially in these years... ;)
 
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Zam_Olyas said:
Daniel Friebe ‏
Scimone says the alleged connection with Ferrari is untrue. 'Beyond that I speak to teams, sponsors, banks, reporters and just do my job.'

And the great cyclingnews have this

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/italian-newspaper-reveals-details-of-ferrari-investigation
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lol, Scimone is one of the masterminds. Taking lessons from Hog PR.

The Gnome said:
exit rabobank from the sport if this turns out to have teeth...
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Investigation goes as early as 2008, it could just be Rabo implicated as Menchov was still there at that point, they could maybe lump it all together with the ongoing Rasmussen/Humanplasma problems.
 
Ryo Hazuki

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this is non-doping. you guys realise that right? :eek:

this is just about tax fraud, which isn't surprising at all in italy or riders living in italy.
 
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Ferminal said:
lol, Scimone is one of the masterminds. Taking lessons from Hog PR.



Investigation goes as early as 2008, it could just be Rabo implicated as Menchov was still there at that point, they could maybe lump it all together with the ongoing Rasmussen/Humanplasma problems.
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true...my only point is corporate bank sponsors tend to run for the hills at the mere mention of money laundering...Rabo has been fairly tested via the doping scandals...but toss in money laundering activities tied to their team and I bet they would finally bow out...
 
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true...my only point is corporate bank sponsors tend to run for the hills at the mere mention of money laundering...Rabo has been fairly tested via the doping scandals...but toss in money laundering activities tied to their team and I bet they would finally bow out...
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yes. but I think the money laudering is just individual riders living in italy. guys like rasmussen... oh the irony... :eek:
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
yes. but I think the money laudering is just individual riders living in italy. guys like rasmussen... oh the irony... :eek:
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yeah, I agree...if it is just individuals...prolly not a big deal to them...guess we wait and see how deep it goes...I don't see how riders not paying taxes would be the biggest story in the world...happens all the time...
 
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The Gnome said:
yeah, I agree...if it is just individuals...prolly not a big deal to them...guess we wait and see how deep it goes...I don't see how riders not paying taxes would be the biggest story in the world...happens all the time...
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yes, but this is italy,. every story is cranked up to be the netx big thing and it always end sup as utter bull**** how many dopinghypes have we heard from there and what has actually come about of it? nothing, save some 3 months suspensions for riders having talked to a doctor :eek:
 
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onimod

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except the guy doing the laundering is also removing his cut for medical services at the same time
 
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We live in Interesting times ! Are there any sign of heinous or phat being involved ?
Yesterday saw that Velonews had caught the story about Matt White that you were discussing last Thursday and i blogged on 13th oct ! Goes to show , you can´t take your eye off the ball !

Wonder if there will be a 2013 season ?
 
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