Brits don't dope?

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rick james said:
python said:
I never cared for froome...in fact, I am convinced he's a lucky doper. yet, people should, despite the various ways available, allow the Dawg to cast the last word on his nationality.

Being a Euro mutt myself growing up in several countries and living in many more I always wondered wtf strangers seemed to know more about my ethnicity/nationality than I myself...

what's an unlucky doper?
since i did not use the phrase, your question is pointless...
 
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python said:
rick james said:
python said:
I never cared for froome...in fact, I am convinced he's a lucky doper. yet, people should, despite the various ways available, allow the Dawg to cast the last word on his nationality.

Being a Euro mutt myself growing up in several countries and living in many more I always wondered wtf strangers seemed to know more about my ethnicity/nationality than I myself...

what's an unlucky doper?
since i did not use the phrase, your question is pointless...
Lucky doping needs to be added to the prohibited list, it's not fair only the unlucky dopers get caught!
 
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python said:
I never cared for froome...in fact, I am convinced he's a lucky doper. yet, people should, despite the various ways available, allow the Dawg to cast the last word on his nationality.

Being a Euro mutt myself growing up in several countries and living in many more I always wondered wtf strangers seemed to know more about my ethnicity/nationality than I myself...
his nationality is easily determined, and in this he's just like Geraint Thomas, Andy Murray, etc;
when they win, they're British,
when they lose, they're Welsh/Kenyan/Scottish/[insert birth country here]
 
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Archibald said:
python said:
I never cared for froome...in fact, I am convinced he's a lucky doper. yet, people should, despite the various ways available, allow the Dawg to cast the last word on his nationality.

Being a Euro mutt myself growing up in several countries and living in many more I always wondered wtf strangers seemed to know more about my ethnicity/nationality than I myself...
his nationality is easily determined, and in this he's just like Geraint Thomas, Andy Murray, etc;
when they win, they're British,
when they lose, they're Welsh/Kenyan/Scottish/[insert birth country here]
"when they lose, they're Welsh/Kenyan/Scottish/[insert birth country here]"

How soon before Wiggin's become's Belgian born? :lol: :D
 
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rick james said:
Winterfold said:
samhocking said:
Froome is British by descent, Kenyan by emigration, it's as simple as that. It doesn't matter where he was born, where he grew up or where he lives. If he has descended from a parent who is a British Citizen you are British. His British Grandparents emigrated to Kenya, so he is also Kenyan, just like if anyone emigrated to another Country.
By domicile, he is Kenyan.

By birth, he is British.

Culturally, he is a white african who lives in Monaco.

Wiggo might have been born in Belgium to an Aussie father, but culturally, he is as 'British' as Paul Weller or David Beckham (Or me, who was born in the States, but no one believes it).

So if you ask me, how many Brits have won a GT, I think three have won one each. That's not rational, it's emotional.

This probably explains why the British public have warmed to him in the way they warmed to Zola Budd :lol:

This is only really important when it comes to things like Sports Personality of the Year

By birth he is Kenyan as he was born there
That's what domicile means.
 
By Domicile is not the same as by Birth. Domicile is to do with your residency. I was born in Italy, but I can't be an Italian citizen by domicile, because my parents are British, Grandparents British and neither have ever been an Italian Citizen. The only reason Froome can have dual citizenship is because his Grandparents emigrated to Kenya.
 
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fmk_RoI said:
samhocking said:
I can't be an Italian citizen by domicile
Except of course that you can. Four years domicle allows to you apply for naturalisation.

Still, facts, why let them get in the way...
Agreed, but the point is not how do you become Kenyan. My example is purely to show, where I was born makes no difference to my British Citizenship (for most countries). Obviously if where you were born gave you citizenship, people would be flying all over the World to give birth.
 
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samhocking said:
Obviously if where you were born gave you citizenship, people would be flying all over the World to give birth.
Some countries that use the jus soli principle:

* Argentina
* Brazil
* Canada
* Mexico
* Pakistan
* United States
* Venezuela

Obvs, visiting these countries is difficult as their airports are crammed to over-flowing with people flying all over the World to give birth...

Still, when in a hole, keep digging....
 
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fmk_RoI said:
Winterfold said:
rick james said:
By birth he is Kenyan as he was born there
That's what domicile means.
Seriously? Someone call the Oxford English people...

It's like Alice in Wonderland round here. Words mean what people choose them to mean.
I am a US national by domicile, as my mother was in the US when I was born.

Perhaps I should have put 'what domicile means in this context' or 'domicile of origin' in my post. You clearly understand this principle as you demonstrate it to Sam in a subsequent post.
 
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fmk_RoI said:
samhocking said:
Obviously if where you were born gave you citizenship, people would be flying all over the World to give birth.
Some countries that use the jus soli principle:

* Argentina
* Brazil
* Canada
* Mexico
* Pakistan
* United States
* Venezuela

Obvs, visiting these countries is difficult as their airports are crammed to over-flowing with people flying all over the World to give birth...

Still, when in a hole, keep digging....
Yes. The USA has hundreds of "homes" where foreigners, mostly Chinese women come to give birth.
 
My point was connecting my birth in Italy to Froome's birth in Kenya. Neither affected my British Passport and being British because my British Nationality is decided by having British parents and grandparents, which are effectively identical to Froome's other than Froome's grandparents emigrated.
 
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Yet again ADA's fail sport miseraly and it ispolice authorities who end up doing the anti-doping agencies jobs.

So when will British Police bust UK doping because UKAD are never going to do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Benotti69 said:
Yet again ADA's fail sport miseraly and it ispolice authorities who end up doing the anti-doping agencies jobs.

So when will British Police bust UK doping because UKAD are never going to do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't hold your breath, we don't really have police any more.
 
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Yet again ADA's fail sport miseraly and it ispolice authorities who end up doing the anti-doping agencies jobs.

So when will British Police bust UK doping because UKAD are never going to do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
before getting so dramatic............tell us just what british doping will be busted for.............

oh wait ............da dawg will be pulled in for excess puffs..............
 
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ebandit said:
Benotti69 said:
Yet again ADA's fail sport miseraly and it ispolice authorities who end up doing the anti-doping agencies jobs.

So when will British Police bust UK doping because UKAD are never going to do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
before getting so dramatic............tell us just what british doping will be busted for.............

oh wait ............da dawg will be pulled in for excess puffs..............
yep they're the best but they're the cleanest too. Doesn't make sense of course but we're not allowed to assume anything or use any common sense because they never get caught. Lots of suspicious behaviour but no hard evidence. Too bad the British anti doping and law enforcement isn't as stern as they are in Austria.
 
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Benotti69 said:
Yet again ADA's fail sport miseraly and it ispolice authorities who end up doing the anti-doping agencies jobs.

So when will British Police bust UK doping because UKAD are never going to do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why would the Police get involved?

Even if Sky were caught with needles hanging out of their arms it wouldn't constitute a criminal offence.

If you are going to opine on doping, there is little hope if you cant even get the basics right....let alone any of the technical and nuanced issues.
 

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