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Cancellara Hour

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Doesn't that idea elicit excitement?
I can't see Lance coming close but Fabian, do it soon.
The 'Armstrong Track Bike' wouldn't even be legal, as the top tube isn't round.
I think FC could break the 50kph barrier at altitude.
Then go indoors with a Hotta frame and try for Boardman's 56.
Cycling needs the boost. Just sell me a ticket to watch.
 
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The only record worth going for is the one with the athlete rules. Boardman's 56 was done on the best human effort rules. His athlete rules' record was 49.441 and that has since been raised to 49.700 by Ondřej Sosenka. However, there has to be a question mark around him considering he is facing a life ban for a second doping offence, although he never tested postive whilst breaking his record.

To be honest, I'm not convinced that Cancellara has it in him. For a start, let's not underestimate how hard the record is now. Boardman was also a phenomenal TTer, so that distance should be considered very, very good.

But, the main difference between Boardman and Cancellara is that Boardman was always very good on the track which gave him a perfect riding style for the hour record. Not only does Cancellara have no real track experience, I don't think his pedalling style is suitable for it. Because of his sheer power, he has a real stomping style on the bike. The road forgive that (and even then, some courses less than others), but I'm not sure that the track would.

Indurain and Rominger had beautiful pedalling styles despite their lack of track experience. That's the only reason I believe that they were quickly able to jump from road to track.

Boonen and Cancellara mentioned at the start of last year that they were interested in riding the pursuit in Beijing. It is believed that both did do tests before quietly dropping the plan. I believe in both cases it was because they realised that they aren't track riders. Maybe with a lot of investment they could, but there is nothing on the track important enough to invest that effort, hour record included.

Graham.
 
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Yes, Cancellara good have a very good crack at this. You'll have explain why a "stomping" style is either a) not suitable for the track b) that a smoother style could not be trained for. And how did we determine he "stomps" in the first place.

Given his size and absolute power I think he could have a good chance of cracking it. But not for a few years yet.
 
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I don't see Boonen or Cancellara as pursuit guys either.
The hour is much, much different.
Cancellara has the wattage, good positioning, and the mental ability.
He pedals just fine, in my opinion.
Boardman was in the twilight of his career and did not have a chance for any attempts at the 'old bike' record at altitude.
I concur about Sosenka.
Boonen has never been a top time trialist, so I don't know why you suggest him.
Riding a 50-60 kilometer time trial is very close to an hour attempt and Cancellara is in about the same position in the peloton as Indurain was when he trained for his hour attempt.
The main deterent is cost and sponsorship.
 
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Would love to see a prominant cyclist have a go at "The Hour", a mythical record and one that I have always followed, like previous posts I couldn't agree more that track experience is invaluable, not sure Fabian has much at all.
 
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lookkg386 said:
Would love to see a prominant cyclist have a go at "The Hour", a mythical record and one that I have always followed, like previous posts I couldn't agree more that track experience is invaluable, not sure Fabian has much at all.

Once again I ask why is track experience so nessecary? It took me all of one session to learn a fixed gear and how to roll around on the boards. Second session I started pursuit training. I think someone Cancellara would have zero problems here. Other styles of track racing I would agree experience would be useful.
 
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I'd love to see someone go for the hour record. I dont care who. I want to see how quick we can make a bike without it looking like a recumbent.
I find the Athletes hour record a bit boring and old fashioned. I agree that it is the purest way to prove who really is the quickest. But cycling isnt just about the man. How many people buy bikes just because they just love bikes?
 
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I agree. The old bike record is a bit boring. It honors EM who didn't have today's technology. Only a very few have even attempted it.
I think it is very unfair that to go for the unlimited hour (or whatever they want to call it) that you can not use the same frame, the same handlebars that Boardman used; nor can you use the same disc wheel that Rominger used, or the handlebars that Obree used.

I would like to see a very open category. I want to see full body armor, like that guy who makes his own stuff for downhill ski records. I want to see a helmet that stretches until it touches the saddle. I want to bring back the whale disc wheel. Build an indoor velodrome in the Andes or maybe in Nepal. Bring back the Australian Superbike, the Lotus, Hotta, and the Bottechia Kronotech (probably the most beautiful bike ever made)

But I will settle for Cancellara on an old style bike.
 
TShame said:
I agree. The old bike record is a bit boring. It honors EM who didn't have today's technology. Only a very few have even attempted it.
I think it is very unfair that to go for the unlimited hour (or whatever they want to call it) that you can not use the same frame, the same handlebars that Boardman used; nor can you use the same disc wheel that Rominger used, or the handlebars that Obree used.

I would like to see a very open category. I want to see full body armor, like that guy who makes his own stuff for downhill ski records. I want to see a helmet that stretches until it touches the saddle. I want to bring back the whale disc wheel. Build an indoor velodrome in the Andes or maybe in Nepal. Bring back the Australian Superbike, the Lotus, Hotta, and the Bottechia Kronotech (probably the most beautiful bike ever made)

But I will settle for Cancellara on an old style bike.

may as well ride a recumbant then.

I think restricting to the equipment/position rules that apply for individual pursuits is fine.
 
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Actually, the rules ae quite complex but basically your frame must have three round tubes and no aero spokes or full aero rims for the offcial hour record.

Current track cycling rules apply to the less restricted hour.
 
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I disagree that he has a stomping style. Coming out of corners, over cobbles and out of the saddle yeah, he probably keeps his gears higher than others which might cause it to look that way but once he is riding on a flat road in a straight line his pedalling action is simply beautiful.

I think the hour record is underrated - bring on any attempt to break if you ask me. I think either Cancellara or Armstrong could be impressive to watch. Also Dave Z, he has a great technique too.
 
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I think Armstrong missed his chance years ago.
The Big Z ? I would watch him, but he hasn't impressed me in a while.
I wonder if Wiggins has ever tried out his legs? just to see how far he could go in an hour on the track. At least he can steer the line.
Levi Leipheimer would be a great choice as well. He seems to hold his pace in long time trials, a neccessity on the track.
 
TShame said:
Actually, the rules ae quite complex but basically your frame must have three round tubes and no aero spokes or full aero rims for the offcial hour record.

Current track cycling rules apply to the less restricted hour.

I am well aware of the rules. Pages 59-64 of UCU rules Section III.

A rider I coach is attempting to beat the Masters hour record next weekend (which are run under the Best Hour Performance rules).
 
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Alex Simmons/RST said:
I am well aware of the rules. Pages 59-64 of UCU rules Section III.

A rider I coach is attempting to beat the Masters hour record next weekend (which are run under the Best Hour Performance rules).

Is that Jayson Austin? I read about his attempt last year. Whoever it is - good luck to them, it is a tough challenge.
 
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Yea, I think anything should be allowed. if you can get out of the gate in a recumbant and do it, have at it. anything(except motors or anything like that) should be allowed.
 
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Goliath520 said:
Yea, I think anything should be allowed. if you can get out of the gate in a recumbant and do it, have at it. anything(except motors or anything like that) should be allowed.

If anything is allowed the machines they ride won't recognizable as bikes. Such records also exist of cause, Sam Whittingham holds it at 90,598 km, but it is and should be held seperate from the cycling hour record.

Here's a clip showing the "bicycle" he used for the record. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMUNOLwW0io
 
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Cerberus said:
If anything is allowed the machines they ride won't recognizable as bikes. Such records also exist of cause, Sam Whittingham holds it at 90,598 km, but it is and should be held seperate from the cycling hour record.
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It would be interesting to see what Cancellara or another world class time triallist could do in some of those human powered vehicles. Love to see somebody average 60 mph (or 100 km/h) powered entirely by their own efforts...
 
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I find it amazing that Boardman only just topped EM's record and the latest successful attempt was done by a guy recently busted for drug use.

I don;t see the problem with two records, I personally am more enthused by the UCI Hour Record.
 
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Spartacus Breaks 1 hour record!

I believe this is a headline that is coming to a cycling site near you. I admit to being a swissophile (married to a Suisse wife, First racing bike was an Allegro, one of my current bikes is a BMC Pro Machine). Fabian is THE man! When it comes to power and guts Give me Fabian and Jens!
AND I have to say, Fabian is a REAL gentleman. My wife was in Switzerland during the TdS and she got his autograph on a T shirt for me. The pen was a little weak in the ink department and she went back with another pen and even though he was about to get on the stationary to warm up, he stopped and graciously signed it again. he even joked with her about how he had to lay off the white bread baguettes next winter.
If an yone can break the hour record, it's Fabian...his pedaling is just fine.:p
 
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grumpyphil said:
I believe this is a headline that is coming to a cycling site near you. I admit to being a swissophile (married to a Suisse wife, First racing bike was an Allegro, one of my current bikes is a BMC Pro Machine). Fabian is THE man! When it comes to power and guts Give me Fabian and Jens!
AND I have to say, Fabian is a REAL gentleman. My wife was in Switzerland during the TdS and she got his autograph on a T shirt for me. The pen was a little weak in the ink department and she went back with another pen and even though he was about to get on the stationary to warm up, he stopped and graciously signed it again. he even joked with her about how he had to lay off the white bread baguettes next winter.
If an yone can break the hour record, it's Fabian...his pedaling is just fine.:p

no wonder you're grumpy phil, i would be too if spartacus was chatting up the missus :eek: