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cavendish growing up manning up?

Jul 6, 2009
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it seems he is learning to be a gracious winner to some degree which is nice to see less stupid talk or arrogance acting more as a grown man than a kid. at least from what i read anyways thoughts?
 
The drama from last season:
-His crash with Haussler and numerous other unfortunates victims of the same
-His struggles in the early season (2010) that left him less than his dominant self resulting in his less than his usual stellar performances
-His first win and subsequent crying fit on the podium
All of this conflict seems to have made him mature. Prior to his struggles he had things skating his way, able to say what he pleased while everyone nodded in agreement because he was killing everyone on the road in the sprints. A little adversity does a person good.
 
Dec 29, 2009
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forty four said:
it seems he is learning to be a gracious winner to some degree which is nice to see less stupid talk or arrogance acting more as a grown man than a kid. at least from what i read anyways thoughts?

i could be you who's changing. they used to whinge about cippollini too. i hope cavendish stays the same. love that bucktooth little ******* ;).

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Jul 30, 2009
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As a Brit I am bored ****less of polite losers

Give me a rude winner any day

That said he did seem to grow up in July last year in how he presents to the meejah

But his win on the Champs Elysses last year was so mindblowingly awesome he deserves the odd moment of being a cocky 5hit - just like Spartacus does
 
forty four said:
it seems he is learning to be a gracious winner to some degree which is nice to see less stupid talk or arrogance acting more as a grown man than a kid. at least from what i read anyways thoughts?

He has been trying this for a while. The P.R. people got to him. He talks up his teammates and acts grateful, but it is a transparent act to cover the fact that he is a world class tool. Wait for something to not go his way, and then his true personality will come out in spades.
 
Jan 18, 2010
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He's more like an Aussie cricketer circa mid seventies than a polite Brit sportsman, he has the will to win and shoots from the hip. I kind of like that.

If he upsets people then thats their problem.
 
Apr 29, 2009
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BroDeal said:
He has been trying this for a while. The P.R. people got to him. He talks up his teammates and acts grateful, but it is a transparent act to cover the fact that he is a world class tool. Wait for something to not go his way, and then his true personality will come out in spades.

Yes you would know that it's all an act. He has always thanked his team first but hell yes that's just an act because apparently the PR people told him to do it. You seem to know an awful lot.:rolleyes:
Always with the hate and the trolling its getting a bit pathetic now.
 
Mar 10, 2009
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BroDeal said:
He has been trying this for a while. The P.R. people got to him. He talks up his teammates and acts grateful, but it is a transparent act to cover the fact that he is a world class tool. Wait for something to not go his way, and then his true personality will come out in spades.

In India at the Commonwealth Games he was helping his national team at the TT. No fanfare and barely noticed by anyone. He just was working and helping out. I don't recall seeing too many other top pros doing that. Tools are very useful things! So how do you come to know him so well? I presume you know something him by your personal experience? Or have you based you opinion of him on racing site and TV soundbites? He gets so many because he says what is on his mind.

You make a pretty hard judgement on a Kid that plays in a very aggressive game. There is a lot of emotion in sprinters, at least in the winning ones. I see him as confident, a little cocky and darn successful at his skill. He is polite after the adrenaline and I don't think he needs to apologize for the words he choses of for that matter being pleased he won. I like him.
 
May 27, 2010
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BroDeal said:
Yeah, he is polite when he is not spitting on other riders or flipping off the crowd.

So your telling us that you've never done something stupid in the heat of the moment? Your perfect are you?

As people have already said, sprints by nature are full of emotion and things happen in a split second and people do stupid things. I don't think either of those things were right and he was wrong to do them but are you really going to pretend your perfect and have never done something stupid?

Is your opinion based on a personal experince where you actually met him or are you just relying on what the media shows us?? Open your eyes man.
 
woodie said:
As people have already said, sprints by nature are full of emotion and things happen in a split second and people do stupid things. I don't think either of those things were right and he was wrong to do them but are you really going to pretend your perfect and have never done something stupid?

Is your opinion based on a personal experince where you actually met him or are you just relying on what the media shows us?? Open your eyes man.

I did open my eyes. I saw that Cavend0uche is a world class turd. He has a long history of acts that prove it, including refusing to meet his parents when they journeyed to France to see him at the TdF. I do not believe that he had a miraculous personality transformation after suffering last year with a toothache.

It is those "split second" stressful situations that a person's true nature shows, and what showed is that Chav is a nasty piece of work.
 
May 27, 2010
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BroDeal said:
I did open my eyes. I saw that Cavend0uche is a world class turd. He has a long history of acts that prove it, including refusing to meet his parents when they journeyed to France to see him at the TdF. I do not believe that he had a miraculous personality transformation after suffering last year with a toothache.

It is those "split second" stressful situations that a person's true nature shows, and what showed is that Chav is a nasty piece of work.

Maybe he and his parents have a history you don't know of? Maybe it's his job and he didn't want the distraction before an important stage. What source have you got to prove that actually happened?

He's only 24 or 25 and he's got all this pressure on him to win all the time. He's obviously still learning how to deal with it and he is improving. How would you act in his situation? Do you honestly know how you would act? I think your judging him way to harshly and your obviously ignoring anything positive about him, like Delhi, like the way he always thanks his team, like how he reacted after Renshaw was kicked off the tour, like how he rides for his team when he can't win.

Yeah he's arrogant and cocky, so he should be, he's one of, if not the best, sprinter at present and probably ever. Yeah he's done stupid things that he shouldn't have but so have we all. All we know about him is what the press writes unless you've met him which from what your saying you haven't.
 
BroDeal said:
I did open my eyes. I saw that Cavend0uche is a world class turd. He has a long history of acts that prove it, including refusing to meet his parents when they journeyed to France to see him at the TdF. I do not believe that he had a miraculous personality transformation after suffering last year with a toothache.

It is those "split second" stressful situations that a person's true nature shows, and what showed is that Chav is a nasty piece of work.

Come on Bro, we've been through all this before last year. The whole thing with fame is we don't get a context, so we're tempted to fill in the rest for ourselves. What issues Cavendish might have with his parents is really his business, isn't it?

After seeing that video on CN however, I do think that, if that performance is representative, he must be one of the most startlingly inarticulate individuals I've ever heard do a press conference. :D Unlike the Canc, it's pretty clear he can't sprint through wordy interviews in four different languages after 270km of hard racing. But I think that might have more to do with the British/Manx education system. ;)
 
Mar 11, 2009
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That video made me cringe. There are always tons of reporters around when Cav is giving a presser because they know he might say something a little crazy that will make for a good story, but the guy really isn't great at interviews.
 
Apr 12, 2010
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Jamsque said:
That video made me cringe. There are always tons of reporters around when Cav is giving a presser because they know he might say something a little crazy that will make for a good story, but the guy really isn't great at interviews.

His old interviews usesd to be more articulate and fluid but after all the flak he's received in the past I think you can see him pausing and pondering before giving an answer or even biting his tongue to stop staying what he's really thinking, however it doesn't always work and I'm sure the odd slipup will still occur occasionally. I usually find the after race interview is more articualte and informative while the adrenaline is still flowing than the later offical press conferences.
 
Apr 29, 2009
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BroDeal said:
I did open my eyes. I saw that Cavend0uche is a world class turd. He has a long history of acts that prove it, including refusing to meet his parents when they journeyed to France to see him at the TdF. I do not believe that he had a miraculous personality transformation after suffering last year with a toothache.

It is those "split second" stressful situations that a person's true nature shows, and what showed is that Chav is a nasty piece of work.

And you are a real charmer aren't you? We all know you hate the guy, fine we get it, now go and "contribute" on another thread.
 
Dec 18, 2009
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How is him having a humble side anything new?

From cycling news coverage of the first pro race he won back in 2007

"Bernie [Bernhard Eisel] got me up there in the right wheel, it's thanks to him that I can win here."

Yes, he has a cocky attitude at times and when he thinks he's the best he'll say so, but I don't think I've seen a top level sprinter who hasn't had this quality to some extent. It goes with the territory, they're passionate people.
 
Mar 26, 2011
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Why are people always hating on Cavendish for crying in victory? I think these people are perhaps afraid to express emotion, and so they try and tell the world being a stoic tough guy is the way to act properly? Whatever, I'm all for tears of joy.
 
Jul 2, 2009
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People can have their own opinions on Cav - some of which will be informed by their own shortcomings.

Personally I'm a fan. I like a sportsman to speak his mind. A rarity these days.

Plus, I've met two people (both friends of friends) who have dealt with Cav. One is a sports journalist (general sport, not just cycling), the other, an employee at HTC.

The journalist, who has interviewed many sportsmen across many sports, said he was one of the best people he had ever interviewed. He really liked the guy - polite, prompt, friendly - basically a perfect gentleman.

The HTC guy thinks the sun shines out of his ****. He said Cav was very personable and helpful and very professional. HTC love him.

Those who criticise probably haven't done any sport at a high level. I've seen this first hand with a couple of Olympian friends. Around their sport they will be brash, competitive and totally sure of themselves. But take that out of that, and they're usually very modest, polite and great company.