Chris Froome Vs Alberto Contador. Who has the best palmares?

[MacBAir]

Well, I would like to ask you all 2 things:

• Who has the best palmares, now?
• Who will have the best palmares when both finish their careers, and who will be considered the best, strongest rider?

Let's get down to facts.

Froome, clearly the strongest of the 2 since 2011.

• 3x Tour
• 3x Dauphine
• 7x tour stages
• 2x Romandie
• 2x Oman
• 6x Romandie stages
• 3x Vuelta stages

Alberto, for the sake of transparency his results will have to be divided from before the ban and after his ban.

• 2x Tour
• 1x Vuelta
• 1x giro
• 2x Paris Nice
• 2x Vuelta Pais Basco
• after ban
• 2x Vuelta
• 2x Pais Basco
• 1x Giro

Conclusions

1. Alberto has 7 GTs Vs 3 GTs to Froome. However, Froome has won more Tours and Alberto has never beaten Froome on a GT since 2011.

• As far as stages races, Froome also seems to be stronger since 2011.

• Alberto pre and pos-ban are 2 different riders.

My opinion
I have seen both riders rise up to the big leagues. It seems obvious to me that Froome is clearly stronger than Alberto ever was, with the difference widening each year since 2011. Who will end with the best palmares? Froome, bar some unexpected turn of events and he ends his career soon. Who has the best palmares today? Well, I think that it all comes down to how you value the Tour Vs other GTs, and their competition. Having 3 Tour wins while demolishing the strongest riders (Alberto included) is worth more than having won other GTs against lesser opposition (and never beat Froome after 2011).

 

[Red Rick]

Alberto Contador right now. In the end it will be pretty subjective.

I'd add options that it's about even right now, and options that they'll end up about even.

 

[MacBAir]

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Alberto Contador right now. In the end it will be pretty subjective.

I'd add options that it's about even right now, and options that they'll end up about even.

If someone thinks that they are even, they should untie based on what they perceive as their worth as riders.

 

[Red Rick]

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Alberto Contador right now. In the end it will be pretty subjective.

Can you vote? Is the poll working ok?

Yeah, it's working

 

[GP Blanco]

Is this serious? A cyclist who won all the three GT's is Always superiour over one who focussed on one.

 

[MacBAir]

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Is this serious? A cyclist who won all the three GT's is Always superiour over one who focussed on one.

Even when the guy that won the 3 GTs has never beaten the other at the most, by far, important GT of them all since Froome became a contender in 2011?

I feel like dividing this from before and after the ban is relevant. Just look at the results.

Also, what about the future?

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Alberto "The Great One" Contador Velasco

 

[Breh]

Include Oman but don't include Algarve. Contadors Tirreno win suddenly dissapeared. Contadors stage wins don't count but Froomes are included. Froome and Contador didn't ride Vuelta 2012/2014?

Excellent troll.

Close this topic already.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Include Oman but don't include Algarve. Contadors Tirreno win suddenly dissapeared. Contadors stage wins don't count but Froomes are included. Froome and Contador didn't ride Vuelta 2012/2014?

Excellent troll.

Close this topic already.

Exactly lol.

 

[Red Rick]

Wait, I'd barely noticed a large portion of Contador's wins missing.

Creating Andy Schleck vs Chris Froome palmares poll now.

 

[Squire]

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Include Oman but don't include Algarve. Contadors Tirreno win suddenly dissapeared. Contadors stage wins don't count but Froomes are included. Froome and Contador didn't ride Vuelta 2012/2014?

Excellent troll.

Close this topic already.

Additionally, any tabloid journalist would be proud of the picture choices: Glorious Froome attacking in the crosswinds vs stressed out, violent Contador.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Include Oman but don't include Algarve. Contadors Tirreno win suddenly dissapeared. Contadors stage wins don't count but Froomes are included. Froome and Contador didn't ride Vuelta 2012/2014?

Excellent troll.

Close this topic already.

Additionally, any tabloid journalist would be proud of the picture choices: Glorious Froome attacking in the crosswinds vs stressed out, violent Contador.

Well I do like that photo, it is one of my fave action shots of my guy.

 

[Red Rick]

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Include Oman but don't include Algarve. Contadors Tirreno win suddenly dissapeared. Contadors stage wins don't count but Froomes are included. Froome and Contador didn't ride Vuelta 2012/2014?

Excellent troll.

Close this topic already.

Additionally, any tabloid journalist would be proud of the picture choices: Glorious Froome attacking in the crosswinds vs stressed out, violent Contador.

Well I do like that photo, it is one of my fave action shots of my guy.

I mean, he insta proves who's the most agressive and who's got the most fighting spirit

 

[MacBAir]

Those are the best wins listed by PCS. I'm sorry if I missed something relevant. Jesus, some of you wear your hearts in your sleeves. Stop being so fanboyish.

Yes, Alberto beat Froome at the Vuelta in 2014. Was that a "normal" season were both prepared for it? No, it was all dependent on how they recovered from injuries. Since 2011, as long as they aren't injured, Froome beats Alberto 10 out of 10 times on any GT, unless something out of the ordinary happens (Contador having 27 teammates).

 

[Red Rick]

Do you have any points to make?

 

[Breh]

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Those are the best wins listed by PCS. I'm sorry if I missed something relevant. Jesus, some of you wear your hearts in your sleeves. Stop being so fanboyish.

Yes, Alberto beat Froome at the Vuelta in 2014. Was that a "normal" season were both prepared for it? No, it was all dependent on how they recovered from injuries. Since 2011, as long as they aren't injured, Froome beats Alberto 10 out of 10 times on any GT, unless something out of the ordinary happens (Contador having 27 teammates).

I don't care.

You were stating facts, one of those facts was Contador never beating Froome. That's simply not a fact. I don't care what the circumstances were. Saying Contador never beat Froome in a GT is simply a lie.


Best wins by Contador as stated by PCS:

3x GC Vuelta a Espana ('14, '12, '08)
2x GC Tour de France ('09, '07)
4x GC Vuelta Ciclista al Pais Vasco ('16, '14, '09, '08)
2x GC Giro d´Italia ('15, '08)
2x GC Paris - Nice ('10, '07)
5x stage Vuelta a Espana ('14, '12, '08)
GC Tirreno-Adriatico ('14)
7x stage Vuelta a Pais Vasco ('16, '14, '09, '08, '05)

Looks a little different from what you have posted.

Stop embarrassing yourself and delete your topic.

 

[Squire]

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Those are the best wins listed by PCS. I'm sorry if I missed something relevant. Jesus, some of you wear your hearts in your sleeves. Stop being so fanboyish.

Yes, Alberto beat Froome at the Vuelta in 2014. Was that a "normal" season were both prepared for it? No, it was all dependent on how they recovered from injuries. Since 2011, as long as they aren't injured, Froome beats Alberto 10 out of 10 times on any GT, unless something out of the ordinary happens (Contador having 27 teammates).

No matter how you look at it, it still doesn't make the statement "Contador has never beaten Froome in a GT post 2011" more valid.

For me, three GTs vs nine GTs makes this whole topic a non-discussion. Paris-Nice, Tirreno-Adriatico and Pais Vasco are also worth more in my eyes than any stage races Froome has won. In fairness to the Kenyan though, he does have an Olympic medal.

 

[May0maniac]

Come on, just put the guy on your foes list and ignore this thread, it's pointless.

 

[Red Rick]

Alright, this is getting nowhere, and boring quickly.