Confused??? Answers please!!

[pmcg76]

I know this is a bit random but it has me very puzzled. I recently was doing some research on Toni Rominger and noticed he was a long time wearer of the Maglia Bianca(White jersey) at the 87 Giro. I had thought this jersey was for the best young rider but Rominger was 26 at the time, then I noticed Roberto Conti was the eventual winner of the Malgia Bianca that year finishing in 15th overall.

However Eric Breukink who was born the same year(1964) as Conti finished
3rd overall that year but somehow was not the best young rider. I then thought maybe the competition was only open to riders on Italian teams but then Flavio Giupponi finished 4th and he was also born the same year as Conti. Indeed Breukink or Giupponi should also have won in 88 but the jersey went to Stefano Tomasini.

I also noticed that the Soviet riders Ivan Ivanov and Piotr Ugrumov wore white in 89 and both were well over 25/26 and Helmut Weschelberger finished 3rd in the Maglia Bianca competition in 88 and he was almost 35!!!

I am truly perplexed at this situation. Can anyone explain the criteria for the Maglia Bianca competition at the Giro during the 80s?

 

[William H]

Not sure, but I seem to recall something about you only being eligible on your first year

 

[Escarabajo]

Not sure, but I seem to recall something about you only being eligible on your first year

Maybe it was the same thing as the Tour de France in the old days. Parra was old when he won it in 1985. He won it because it was the first time racing it.

 

[Nastyy]

Maybe it was the same thing as the Tour de France in the old days. Parra was old when he won it in 1985. He won it because it was the first time racing it.

Poulnikov won it in '89 and '90 and Tonkov in '92 and '93 so it seems odd. Maybe they changed the rule in the late 80's.

And '87 was also Breukink's first Giro.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Maybe it was the same thing as the Tour de France in the old days. Parra was old when he won it in 1985. He won it because it was the first time racing it.

parra was 25 though when he won

 

[Escarabajo]

parra was 25 though when he won

I did not mean old-old. I just knew that he was not the youngster by today's standards. And I remember he wont it because he was riding the first time at the Tour.

Fignon was 24 at his second Tour and the white jersey went to Greg Lemond. So probably the rules changed somewhere in the 90's, me thinks.

 

[Mambo95]

I did not mean old-old. I just knew that he was not the youngster by today's standards. And I remember he wont it because he was riding the first time at the Tour.

Fignon was 24 at his second Tour and the white jersey went to Greg Lemond. So probably the rules changed somewhere in the 90's, me thinks.

For the Tour de France:

1976-1982: Riders who have been pro for less than three years
1983-1986: Tour debutants
1987-Present: Under 26 on January 1 of the year (although there wasn't an actual jersey 1989-1999)

As for the Giro, no idea.

 

[Escarabajo]

For the Tour de France:

1976-1982: Riders who have been pro for less than three years
1983-1986: Tour debutants
1987-Present: Under 26 on January 1 of the year (although there wasn't an actual jersey 1989-1999)

As for the Giro, no idea.

Well, there you go.

Thanks.

 

[pmcg76]

For the Tour de France:

1976-1982: Riders who have been pro for less than three years
1983-1986: Tour debutants
1987-Present: Under 26 on January 1 of the year (although there wasn't an actual jersey 1989-1999)

As for the Giro, no idea.

Thanks for all the answeres but no definitive answer really. The above helps a little.

Of those I mentioned Ugrumov, Ivanov, Weschelberger, Conti were all Giro debutants so that makes sense.

However 87 was Romingers second Giro according to the stats unless he falls under the pro for less than 3 years. But then Breukink also fits this category.

I dont see how Breukink didnt win white in 87 unless the other rules applied, i.e Giro debutant or Pro for less than 3 years but only open to riders on Italian teams. But then Giupponi should have won. **** too complicated.

 

[Michielveedeebee]

Thanks for all the answeres but no definitive answer really. The above helps a little.

Of those I mentioned Ugrumov, Ivanov, Weschelberger, Conti were all Giro debutants so that makes sense.

However 87 was Romingers second Giro according to the stats unless he falls under the pro for less than 3 years. But then Breukink also fits this category.

I dont see how Breukink didnt win white in 87 unless the other rules applied, i.e Giro debutant or Pro for less than 3 years but only open to riders on Italian teams. But then Giupponi should have won. **** too complicated.

It used to be for riders younger than 24.. Simple as that

 

[El Pistolero]

Yes. That's why Ricco won the young jersey instead of Contador in 2008

 

[hrotha]

Yes. That's why Ricco won the young jersey instead of Contador in 2008

No, Contador was born in 1982 and was therefore 26 according to the rules, which don't take the month of birth into account.