Coronavirus: How dangerous a threat?

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355 cases in Mississippi on July 13
530 cases in New York City July 13
of course its case rates and population but the panic out in these media sites are typical panic porn.

The Vax is losing a ton of traction based on demographics for 2 of the states mentioned in that article.

Compare the data from last year this time in Mississippi. 2020 July 13 -(1371 cases) 2021 July - 13 - (355 cases) KANSAS 2020 July 13 (1447 cases) 2021 July 12 (224 cases)

 
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This is twisty for sure..I think the helmet,no helmet personal choice thing..nails it..if you are unfortunate enough to know the ins and outs of two wheels..head injuries do happen,and I can tell you for absolute certain..there is no such thing as a non serious head injury..and in the motorcycle crowd there is this rebel, tough guy thing.little slogans about "straight pipes save lives"" helmet laws suck..
then comes reality.
a serious head injury costs millions. Most have their insurance coverage exhausted soon into the treatment.
So I have strong feelings about how much responsibility you should shoulder from acting high risk.
So do we need a Covid D-Day? If you get Covid after November 1st you should be held 100% financially responsible for your meds,treatment and disability..
why should any type of insurance pay it you go high risk?
in the US people who become wards of the state, or find themselves completely dependent on hospital care cost all of us something..not just saying money.
I was always hoping that major insurance companies would adjust your rates of just plain drop you if you went wo vaccinations..
 
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Thalidomide - terrible terrible thing. I knew someone in Oz who had been born with limb problems due to thalidomide (mother had taken it), I don't know how big it was in Oz, but I guess if one pregnant woman used it others would have as well.
A couple of my friends are avoiding the vaccine because they are currently trying to get pregnant.

It's a legitimate concern to be fair.
 
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A couple of my friends are avoiding the vaccine because they are currently trying to get pregnant.

It's a legitimate concern to be fair.
Is it? Is the vaccine a bigger risk than SARS-CoV-2? Is there data that suggests it will make them less likely to get pregnant? Is there data that suggests there could be harm to the fetus if they get pregnant? A colleague of mine was about five months pregnant when her age group was eligible to get vaccinated and her baby doc encouraged her to get the vaccine (this was before delta too).

From the CDC:
 
This is twisty for sure..I think the helmet,no helmet personal choice thing..nails it..if you are unfortunate enough to know the ins and outs of two wheels..head injuries do happen,and I can tell you for absolute certain..there is no such thing as a non serious head injury..and in the motorcycle crowd there is this rebel, tough guy thing.little slogans about "straight pipes save lives"" helmet laws suck..
then comes reality.
a serious head injury costs millions. Most have their insurance coverage exhausted soon into the treatment.
So I have strong feelings about how much responsibility you should shoulder from acting high risk.
So do we need a Covid D-Day? If you get Covid after November 1st you should be held 100% financially responsible for your meds,treatment and disability..
why should any type of insurance pay it you go high risk?
in the US people who become wards of the state, or find themselves completely dependent on hospital care cost all of us something..not just saying money.
I was always hoping that major insurance companies would adjust your rates of just plain drop you if you went wo vaccinations..
Obviously, the helmet comparison isn't apples to apples if for other reason than TBI aren't communicable, while SARS-CoV-2 is.
 
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These last two posts should every school in the world discontinuing including math,statistics and almost any pursuit of critical thinking..
these kind of boiled down BS articles are killing people..world wide. 12 people responsible? Everyone divided into two groups? Vaccinated and everyone else?
after reading.I sent an email to the manufacturer of the undetectable,seat tube electric bike motor, that wine you the TDF..I ordered 2..I also sent in my pre registration for the TDF..2022..and as to be helpful I sent them my jersey and bib measurements....current standards look like I will require a 12XL..I plan to be sponsored by Doritos and Cheez Whiz..as I win stage after stage..they will announce Team Cheez wins again
 
I got my first shot Astra Zeneca areound two weeks ago, with moderate side effects. No fever or so, but some pain in the arm for a couple of days, a little headache, and super tired the day after. Think I went to bed at 9 or so.

It's probably not the perfect vaccine, especially against the variants, but there was a chance to get it now, so I grabbed it. Now I'm "in the system" at least, and may get something else for the boost in August anyway, I guess. As far as I read, the Vector+MRNA combination seems to work fairly well, and I don't the EU ordered any more AZ
I got BioNTech/Pfizer indeed now for the second shot, and with absolutely no side effects at all - although there was some talk about potentially having more of those after cross vaccination. I could have taken Astra again as well, btw, but as this is the currently recommended solution in Germany, and first studies seem to show it's working better, I went for the cross vaccination instead.

This Astra/Pfizer combination is not accepted as full vaccination by some countries, but inside the EU it should be okay, and it's not like I've planed any overseas traveling anyway for the moment.
 
I got BioNTech/Pfizer indeed now for the second shot, and with absolutely no side effects at all - although there was some talk about potentially having more of those after cross vaccination. I could have taken Astra again as well, btw, but as this is the currently recommended solution in Germany, and first studies seem to show it's working better, I went for the cross vaccination instead.

This Astra/Pfizer combination is not accepted as full vaccination by some countries, but inside the EU it should be okay, and it's not like I've planed any overseas traveling anyway for the moment.
I read somewhere where that Canadians who have gotten AZ are running into this issue when trying to cross the border into the US. The US is only accpeting FDA approved vaccines as being fully vaccinated.

A brief update on my husband. He had another CT scan today and it appears the predisone is still sort of working as the mass in his lungs is noticably smaller than it was in the last CT scan. The issue is lymp nodes are bigger and his breathing hasn't improved. He has an appointment with the doctor tomorrow, so hopefully they'll have some ideas of what to do.

Another note on Covid. US Tennis Player CoCo Goff tested positive for Covid, one of the women for the 3 on 3 basketball tournament tested positive (she's said she was fully vaccinated), and a reserve member of the US women's gymnastics team has tested positive.
 
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@Koronin -I'm sure you and the docs are all aware that swollen lymph nodes are a possible side effect of mRNA vaccines (women are recommended not to get breast cancer scans for a certain period of time after being vaccinated), but just adding it here just in case! Hopefully things continue to calm down. Also - I read about a woman who definitely had covid and long covid symptoms but continually tested negative for many many months, not saying that's your case, but could it be possible at all?
 
To be honest I don't really get the vaccination situation in Germany. I read comments online and numbers that seem to indicate that there are not enough people willing to get vaccinated, but from my experiences in my personal environment there's still rather a shortage of vaccines and appointments. Seems to differ heavily locally.
Also there now seems to be a gigantic gap of almost 20% between Bremen and Saxony, I don't know how much of that depends on people willing to get vaccinated, organisation or reported numbers (they aren't always up to date).
Right now I'm not sure whether to get my son vaccinated, yet. It's not especially recommended and it's not so easy to get an appointment, but I guess if I would fight for it I could get him appointments somewhere. Wonder if that's worth it or if we'll just wait until it's easy to get them, after all he's not really at risk, could just be that it makes some things easier.
 
I'll tip-toe around politics here: she just seems like a really angry, hateful person. SARS-CoV-2 is a convenient platform for her, but in a different time she would just have a different topic of disorder (like her 'go back to where you came from' campaign). We have two Idaho legislative women who are very similar: hate almost everything/everyone, anti everything, their way only, etc. IMO, people like these are dangerous for many reasons.
 
To be honest I don't really get the vaccination situation in Germany. I read comments online and numbers that seem to indicate that there are not enough people willing to get vaccinated, but from my experiences in my personal environment there's still rather a shortage of vaccines and appointments. Seems to differ heavily locally.
yeah, it's a bit odd. Until ~three weeks ago here (in this part of NRW) it was basically almost impossible to get an appointment unless you were part of a priority group, and now everyone can just walk in and get vaccinated whenever you want.

I guess it's a bit early to jump to any conclusions. There must be loads of young people (students, non-essential workers and so on) not vaccinated yet, and many probably just have different things on their mind during the summer holidays now. They will likely still get it sooner or later
 
@Koronin -I'm sure you and the docs are all aware that swollen lymph nodes are a possible side effect of mRNA vaccines (women are recommended not to get breast cancer scans for a certain period of time after being vaccinated), but just adding it here just in case! Hopefully things continue to calm down. Also - I read about a woman who definitely had covid and long covid symptoms but continually tested negative for many many months, not saying that's your case, but could it be possible at all?
It's more likely to do with the sarcodosis he has than Covid. He had Covid last fall and did have long haul systems, which the vaccine actually eliminated. The lymph node issues have been going on since at least last summer when the mass was discovered in his chest. It's just the mass has gotten smaller, but the lymph nodes have gotten larger. They are doing to the biopsy to find out for sure why and what is going on. The issues with his breathing are not Covid related they are Sarcodosis related. Sarcodosis si an autoimmune disease that effects breathing, lungs, etc and he was diagnosed with that in May with a biopsy.

We're talking about UNC Chapel Hill hospital. They know very well exactly what Covid and the vaccines can do. They are Duke (who the medical teams work together) are two of the major test sites for all Covid vaccines. UNC and Duke health systems are two of by far the best in the country.
 

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