Could someone else beat Wiggins in the Hour of Power ?

[danielovichdk2]

Wiggo might be the best contender, at the moment, but would the likes of Fabian or Tony M be able to beat his time ?

Just a thought...

 

[DFA123]

Wiggins will obviously take the record, possibly by as much as 2km.

I think Martin could go further if he trained specifically for it and peaked for it, like how Wiggins is doing. But he won't do that, so he won't beat him, at least not at this stage in his career. Same for Cancellara - he may have a small chance if he based his season around it, but he won't (although even then I'm not sure he would be able to go further than Wiggins with all his track experience).

 

[SeriousSam]

Wiggins is clearly a better time trialler than Martin when he really wants to. But unlike Martin, he is not just a time trialler, but also a stage racer and one day racer as victories in the Tour de France and extremely strong showings in Paris Roubaix show. When Wiggins was focused on something else, that's when Martin was able to beat him

He really wants that Hour record, so the performance will be magnificent. It will be a record for the ages, only to be broken when the rules are changed yet again. After Wiggins goes 55km, no one will even attempt the hour record for years.

Cancellara, don't make me laugh.

 

[ferryman]

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Wiggins is clearly a better time trialler than Martin when he really wants to. But unlike Martin, he is not just a time trialler, but also a stage racer and one day racer as victories in the Tour de France and extremely strong showings in Paris Roubaix show. When Wiggins was focused on something else, that's when Martin was able to beat him

He really wants that Hour record, so the performance will be magnificent. It will be a record for the ages, only to be broken when the rules are changed yet again. After Wiggins goes 55km, no one will even attempt the hour record for years.

Cancellara, don't make me laugh.

Your trolling is really seriously sam becoming tedious...

 

[carton]

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After Wiggins goes 55km, no one will even attempt the hour record for years.

I'm not sure 55km will be as easy for Wiggo as he seems to believe at the moment. And funnily enough I don't see Dowsett letting it go that easily. I think he'll keep trying until he gets it back 10 years from now when they change the rules to allow for split down tubes or something.

 

[SeriousSam]

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Wiggins is clearly a better time trialler than Martin when he really wants to. But unlike Martin, he is not just a time trialler, but also a stage racer and one day racer as victories in the Tour de France and extremely strong showings in Paris Roubaix show. When Wiggins was focused on something else, that's when Martin was able to beat him

He really wants that Hour record, so the performance will be magnificent. It will be a record for the ages, only to be broken when the rules are changed yet again. After Wiggins goes 55km, no one will even attempt the hour record for years.

Cancellara, don't make me laugh.

Your trolling is really seriously sam becoming tedious...

Ah but I'm not trolling. I'm saying reasonable, uncontroversial things. Perhaps repeating them phrased slightly differently will convince you thereof. I'm saying Wiggins is better than Martin and Cancellara when he goes all in and makes it his sole focus. Especially Cancellara whose powers of time trialling have waned. Recent results bear this out. And I'm saying after Wiggins set a new mark, which I expect to be in the vicinity of 55km, there will be no further attempts for a long time. I guess a new super time trialler could emerge or something.

 

[mrhender]

In the foreseeable future who if any is most likely to go for it IF he supersedes the 55 km barrier?

Also for all the UCI hype around this -what is the fun of having one piece of Wigggins smashing the rest with 2kms..

Just a minor UCI gimmick to squeeze the last CHF out of the first Brit TDF champ?

 

[Cance > TheRest]

Re: Re:

Wiggins is clearly a better time trialler than Martin when he really wants to. But unlike Martin, he is not just a time trialler, but also a stage racer and one day racer as victories in the Tour de France and extremely strong showings in Paris Roubaix show. When Wiggins was focused on something else, that's when Martin was able to beat him

He really wants that Hour record, so the performance will be magnificent. It will be a record for the ages, only to be broken when the rules are changed yet again. After Wiggins goes 55km, no one will even attempt the hour record for years.

Cancellara, don't make me laugh.

Your trolling is really seriously sam becoming tedious...

Ah but I'm not trolling. I'm saying reasonable, uncontroversial things. Perhaps repeating them phrased slightly differently will convince you thereof. I'm saying Wiggins is better than Martin and Cancellara when he goes all in and makes it his sole focus. Especially Cancellara whose powers of time trialling have waned. Recent results bear this out. And I'm saying after Wiggins set a new mark, which I expect to be in the vicinity of 55km, there will be no further attempts for a long time. I guess a new super time trialler could emerge or something.

You didn't really study Fabian and Martin's recent time trialing results before posting that comment, did you?
Martin has 1 WT win, 1 HC win and 2 top 5 results in time trials under his belt already in this season.
Fabian has finished on the podium on every TT occasion he's had in the season, winning the finishing time trial in Tirreno Adriatico.
Wiggins has won 1 time trial and finished 3rd in the Qatar TT (where Fabian was 2nd) - How exactly does that qualify him to be a better time trialist than both Martin and Fabian? And how can you say that recent results indicate that claim?
Both Cancellara and Martin definitely have a shot of beating whatever time Wiggins sets.

 

[GuyIncognito]

Martin, sure. He's arguably the #1 TTer despite having worsened since he improved his climbing last year.
Cancellara? Unlikely. He doesn't have the power he used to, and over long efforts such as an hour he is a far cry from what he used to be. Which is only normal as he's 34

 

[DFA123]

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Martin, sure. He's arguably the #1 TTer despite having worsened since he improved his climbing last year.
Cancellara? Unlikely. He doesn't have the power he used to, and over long efforts such as an hour he is a far cry from what he used to be. Which is only normal as he's 34

I think Cancellara could still get the power back if he dedicated a block of several months where he focused exclusively on threshold training and doing loads of testing on his time trial positon. Of course, this would mean he would pretty much have to give up on the classics for a season. Doesn't really seem worth the trouble for the hour record - certainly not when he still has a good shot at the monuments.

 

[Jancouver]

Cancellara already said that he is not interested as he wanted to ride the "traditional" bike.

I think the next in line (in few years) will be MiniPhinney ... if he ever recovers completely from the injury.

 

[Taxus4a]

Today just Tony Martin and I think that very unlike.

 

[Tonton]

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Wiggins is clearly a better time trialler than Martin when he really wants to. But unlike Martin, he is not just a time trialler, but also a stage racer and one day racer as victories in the Tour de France and extremely strong showings in Paris Roubaix show. When Wiggins was focused on something else, that's when Martin was able to beat him

He really wants that Hour record, so the performance will be magnificent. It will be a record for the ages, only to be broken when the rules are changed yet again. After Wiggins goes 55km, no one will even attempt the hour record for years.

Cancellara, don't make me laugh.

I will return your point against you. Tony has a full time job to do, Wiggo can pick and choose. 55K and change is Rominger. Wiggo can do 56 . Tony a bit more, if his team lets him get time on a track, test gears, and so forth...it takes time unless you're Eddy.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

I don't think any current rider is capable of beating Wiggins.

 

[movingtarget]

Martin or no one or maybe Dowsett and Dennis when they become more seasoned but that does not mean they will break the record but the experience of having already ridden it will help them.

 

[jens_attacks]

I think of zakarin in two or three years time.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

wiggins is a complete idiot for trying this on sea level track. you will easily gain 2 km/h alone by going on altitude like thomas dekker did. wiggins record will soon be broken by a serious contender on high altitude, malori, dumoulin, phinney, martin should all break his record fairly easy on altitude. perhaps in a few years stefan küng

 

[Hugo Koblet]

wiggins is a complete idiot for trying this on sea level track. you will easily gain 2 km/h alone by going on altitude like thomas dekker did. wiggins record will soon be broken by a serious contender on high altitude, malori, dumoulin, phinney, martin should all break his record fairly easy on altitude. perhaps in a few years stefan küng

Yeah, Stefan Küng is the one I think can potentially challenge Wiggins at some point.

 

[memyselfandI]

+1 with Küng. There's really lot of Cancellara-potential in him IMHO. And Phinney of course, but how insanely long he is forced out with his accident, really sad that is!

 

[Fernandez]

Maybe i´m wrong, but at the moment wiggins hasnt broken still the record.

 

[barmaher]

Ryder Hesjedal should do it easily, if he sets his mind to it.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Any good time trial specialist who was relatively close to Wiggins last worlds ITT, so T. Martin, Dumoulin, Malori, who try this at HIGH altitude, will break Wiggins record set in England

The advantages on a high altitude track are so huge, you gain up to 2km in distance. Even Wiggins can't compensate that on low altitude.
It's one of the reasons why T.Dekker was able to get somewhat close to Dennis, even though he pushed 70w less in power...

 

[rghysens]

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Maybe i´m wrong, but at the moment wiggins hasnt broken still the record.

This.......

 

[Dazed and Confused]

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Ryder Hesjedal should do it easily, if he sets his mind to it.

post of the Giro.

TT machine, that boy.

(yes, I know this is track stuff)

 

[el_angliru]

I don't see why Wiggins should be levels above Tony Martin. Tony has beaten Wiggins on several occasions when Wiggins was supposedly at his best. And Tony did more than 51.8 km/h during the 2011 worlds TT. This was not a full hour effort though - "only" a 53 minute effort, but still...

Tony has done better at the worlds (53km/h) but the Copenhagen TT is a better benchmark because it was a circuit of two laps in the city of Copenhagen. Therefore no winds and no altitude gains (as opposed to Tony's TT gold in Florence). There were many sharp twists and turns in Copenhagen (Cancellara crashed in a sharp corner, if you remember), and there were even cobblestones in the center of the city! Still, Tony managed almost 52 km/h. And he beat Bradley by 1'16".

It seems like Tony has lost some weight in order to improve his climbing skills, and he also has some team obligations in the lead outs or as a capitain de route. This is a drawback, of course. But I don't know why everyone seems to believe Wiggins is head and shoulders above everyone else? Tony would need some time off, and some track training. But I think he has the power and the aerodynamics to be competitive re. the hour record. Whether he cares, that's another matter altogether...