Cunego: You can't win clean!

[Zoncolan]

Damiano Cunego had a mediocre Giro showing earlier this year and blamed his under-performing on his abstinence from performance-enhancing drugs.
He was training to peak at the Giro, and was, allegedly, trying to do it clean.

Going clean, he would get shelled out of the main bunch at the bottom of any significant climb.
Foul play! Cunego cried. Everyone else was doped, so he couldn't win clean.
Fast forward 4 months, and he's climbing with the best.

Is it a case of: If you can't beat them, join them, or did everyone else suddenly decide to go clean?

Discuss.

 

[Escarabajo]

It looks like he is fading away in the Vuelta again. Have to wait for more results, specially in that third week.

 

[BroDeal]

Damiano Cunego had a mediocre Giro showing earlier this year and blamed his under-performing on his abstinence from performance-enhancing drugs.
He was training to peak at the Giro, and was, allegedly, trying to do it clean.

Going clean, he would get shelled out of the main bunch at the bottom of any significant climb.
Foul play! Cunego cried. Everyone else was doped, so he couldn't win clean.
Fast forward 4 months, and he's climbing with the best.

Is it a case of: If you can't beat them, join them, or did everyone else suddenly decide to go clean?

Discuss.

Everyone is clean. Just ask Vaughters. All it takes now is a rice diet or a little Eskimo blood.

 

[Mellow Velo]

Pure speculation.
I'm sure BPC will be along to defend the Italian star, with his last breath.

One stage win and he's in for another forum kicking. He's also not the only one who is performing above their norm.

 

[Izoard]

I think I will play a bit of a wait and see. The first week was pretty easy compared to many GTs, and he's won a stage. The second mountain stage and he's already falling back. He will get a bit of a forum kicking though

 

[MTroon]

Cunego has raced, and may still race with a UCI waiver for naturally high hematocrit (>50%). Has something changed or is everyone else boosting past him? Maybe his 2004 samples should be retested.

 

[Von Mises]

Is it just me, but 11 years ago, they were visibly quicker http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1F2txM3TTA

Edit: 11 years

 

[issoisso]

Is it just me, but 111 years ago, they were visibly quicker http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1F2txM3TTA

What did you expect? They were better climbers, at their respective peaks, plus that was at the very peak of the EPO age.

 

[pedaling squares]

Is it just me, but 111 years ago, they were visibly quicker http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1F2txM3TTA

I don't know about that, in 1898 those heavy steel fixies were a bit much for the Cati. And carrying all your tools and equipment... I think they were slower back then

 

[hulkgogan]

Is it just me, but 11 years ago, they were visibly quicker http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1F2txM3TTA

Edit: 11 years

Speaking of fast, ya gotta love Frank.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8MOQuF4_BI&feature=related

 

[forty four]

so when anyone wins its ped's of some type huh? why do some of you follow cycling? find another sport seriously its sad.

 

[samb01]

Is it a case of: If you can't beat them, join them, or did everyone else suddenly decide to go clean?

False dichotomy.

 

[BroDeal]

Is it a case of: If you can't beat them, join them, or did everyone else suddenly decide to go clean?

It's the hard economic times. Doctors like Ferrari and Fuentes are watering down the dope.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Shaun Kelly made the most bizarre noise when Cunego attacked. Very amusing.

Shaun Kelly - who is he? Why would he make a 'bizarre' noise?

Or perhaps you meant Sean Kelly........

 

[Dr. Maserati]

He's very understated but he observes everything closely. It was just a funny hmmmm type noise. What he meant by that I don't know.

....well, thanks for the update.

 

[Oldman]

Well I do have an idea what he meant but I don't know for sure, so I wouldn't state as fact 'Kelly clearly thought he was doped'. I'm not like that.

I'll keep you posted on any other noises he makes.

I'm making a noise right now. It's after the first beer following the last Crit of the year. It also has an aura of implication. Time for another.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

I'm making a noise right now. It's after the first beer following the last Crit of the year. It also has an aura of implication. Time for another.

They are always the best beers of the year! .... Enjoy.

 

[djevermore]

??????????

So what is Cunego saying here? That he doped when he won the Giro?

 

[Steampunk]

Anyone can perform well for one day in the mountains. Cunego didn't look nearly as good today. And does that mean we should all be cheering for Vinokourov? He looks decidedly human...

 

[Ferminal]

Anyone can perform well for one day in the mountains. Cunego didn't look nearly as good today. And does that mean we should all be cheering for Vinokourov? He looks decidedly human...

Exactly, long live the Prince.

 

[samb01]

So what is Cunego saying here? That he doped when he won the Giro?

Almost certainly.

I believe he has been clean since returning from his bout with mononucleosis in 2005.

 

[samb01]

I believe [Cunego] has been clean since returning from his bout with mononucleosis in 2005.

Some reasoning to justify my belief:
http://www.dailypelotonforums.com/main/index.php?s=&showtopic=7868&view=findpost&p=129310

Btw, I called it! (last sentence):
http://www.dailypelotonforums.com/main/index.php?s=&showtopic=7868&view=findpost&p=129271

 

[TRDean]

It is one freakin stage for christ sake!! He also didn't show nearly as well the day after!! Now when Sean Kelly makes a noise he is saying someone is doped? What a bunch of turd burglers you all are!!

 

[Escarabajo]

It is one freakin stage for christ sake!! He also didn't show nearly as well the day after!! Now when Sean Kelly makes a noise he is saying someone is doped? What a bunch of turd burglers you all are!!

It was only one member who said that, I believe. He loves Lance Armstrong, so it is to assume that he uses every oportunity he has to take it against Cunego.

I am on the same boat as you are. It was just one stage.

 

[TRDean]

It was only one member who said that, I believe. He loves Lance Armstrong, so it is to assume that he uses every oportunity he has to take it against Cunego.

I am on the same boat as you are. It was just one stage.

Sorry, I misunderstood your meaning!!!