David Walsh on other sports

[Basecase]

DW has written on rugby and horse racing in recent months.

Yet he does not seem to have tackled drug issues in those sports with any severity.

Also, how critical was he of JT McNamara's paralising accident in horse racing? The racing board is so sensitive about its commercial interests that there isn't even a video of the incident online.

 

[mikehammer67]

isn't jump racing inherently dangerous

 

[Benotti69]

Since when did Walsh become the journalist to expose all doping in all sports?

Why are you not criticising the specialist Rugby Journalists or specialist Tennis journalists?

The cycling journalists have been hammered in here for ignoring the doping issue and still ignoring it.

Where are the cycling journalists who should be going after OPQS, Radioshack, Katusha, Astana, Saxo, BMC and Movistar to name a few who all have dodgy docs and former riders who have doping histories similar to Rabo and T-Mobile?

Walsh can do it all? Why not call out those who do nothing?

 

[Basecase]

This thread is specific to Walsh.

 

[Benotti69]

This thread is specific to Walsh.

Why are you criticising Walsh and not others who have not done anything comparable to his journalism?

 

[Spencer the Half Wit]

He's currently at the Masters. Would be nice if he wrote about V J Singh, but I doubt he will.

 

[Benotti69]

He's currently at the Masters. Would be nice if he wrote about V J Singh, but I doubt he will.

Are you on Twitter? Send him a DM.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

sell out.

Not sure he is interested in any other sports when it comes to writing for his fish wrap.

In other news.
Gets invited to Team sky-bots training camp. = Sellout.

 

[Spencer the Half Wit]

Are you on Twitter? Send him a DM.

It was more to do with the way the Masters commitee look down on any criticism. They once made a tv channel remove a commentator for some mild criticism of the course. If he wrote about Singh I suspect he would have his press accreditation removed rather sharpish. Still might be worth a shot on twitter.

 

[del1962]

Next you will be saying why hasn't PK investigated doping in Irish Rugby

 

[horsinabout]

isn't jump racing inherently dangerous

Well yes but can be made safer, as was seen from this years Grand National.

Made safer from last year when they ran Synchronised and Claire Baulding, a journalist, who was commentating on last years GN, said out of instinct more than anything else, as she is an accomplished horsewomen, that the horse Synchronised didn't want to run. She then quickly back tracked. Trainer Jonjo O'Neill put it down to “one of those things”, well it wasn't. Something was wrong and this is what horse do, they go naught and act up. The horse may well have had a stress fracture from being over raced.

It was pure greed.

Pressure came about from the internet and pressure groups not journalist par say.

 

[Basecase]

Why are you criticising Walsh and not others who have not done anything comparable to his journalism?

Am I not allowed to criticise Walsh? I feel he is worthy of it.

He is going on media now giving the same old stories about LA - really milking it.

If he was really interested in cleaning up sport he would turn to other sports now and be critical of them too - instead he's chosen the rose tinted glasses.

He had such high standards when it came to outing LA - if he applied 10% of that to other sports that would be great imho.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Not sure he is interested in any other sports when it comes to writing for his fish wrap.

In other news.
Gets invited to Team sky-bots training camp. = Sellout.

He has written about many sports, in particular good and rugby. His first real foray in to doping was not in cycling but in swimming.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Am I not allowed to criticise Walsh? I feel he is worthy of it.

He is going on media now giving the same old stories about LA - really milking it.

If he was really interested in cleaning up sport he would turn to other sports now and be critical of them too - instead he's chosen the rose tinted glasses.

He had such high standards when it came to outing LA - if he applied 10% of that to other sports that would be great imho.

See, this is just plain wrong.
His 'high standards' (whatever they are) were exaggerated, as indeed is his implied failure to call out other sports.

Michele Smith/de Bruin was where he first earned his reputation on doping. With Armstrong, while he was suspicious from early on he got a lucky break with Armstrong giving him an interview in 2001 that exposed more than Armstrong expected.

 

[Benotti69]

Am I not allowed to criticise Walsh? I feel he is worthy of it.

Are you an Armstrong fan and feel bitter that he outed Lance and not others?

He is going on media now giving the same old stories about LA - really milking it.

He is a journalist promoting a book he has out. As far as i know the profits are going to charity. so he is doing this work for a charity.

If he was really interested in cleaning up sport he would turn to other sports now and be critical of them too - instead he's chosen the rose tinted glasses.

Are you interested in clean sport? What are you doing about it?

He had such high standards when it came to outing LA - if he applied 10% of that to other sports that would be great imho.

See his journalism on Stephen Roche and Michelle De Bruin Smith.

 

[Basecase]

not an LA fan of course not

ill add is it necessary to justify one's own existance in order to ask questions of a journalist who has made a career from cycling etc? get real Benotti please.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

He has written about many sports, in particular good and rugby. His first real foray in to doping was not in cycling but in swimming.

Thanks for the information. Great he is full well rounded. So then why is B giving Basecase so much heat on this?

But it has to be noted that this particular primary fish wrap focus was on cycling. That would be since some time in the 90's.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

See, this is just plain wrong.
His 'high standards' (whatever they are) were exaggerated, as indeed is his implied failure to call out other sports.

Michele Smith/de Bruin was where he first earned his reputation on doping. With Armstrong, while he was suspicious from early on he got a lucky break with Armstrong giving him an interview in 2001 that exposed more than Armstrong expected.

That is correct. Why did he go embed himself into skybots training camp?

I thought that was a bad move on his part. Just my opinion but made him look like he is on the skytrain.

Since he was involved with other sports and all I wonder why he has not done what the OP basecase points out. "Yet he does not seem to have tackled drug issues in those sports with any severity"

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Thanks for the information. Great he is a full well rounded. So then why is B giving Basecase so much heat on this?

But it has to be noted that this particular primary fish wrap focus was on cycling. That would be since some time in the 90's.

He was writing his suspicions on Michele de Bruin during the Olympics in 1996 a full 2 years before she was caught tampering with her sample and eventually banned.

I am sure David will be upset that someone who does not even know basic information about him describes him so

 

[mikehammer67]

did walsh ever get to 'bunk' with team skys doctors?

originally he was supposed to roomshare with them if he wished

but then they didn't accompany the team to tenerife

 

[mikehammer67]

now you didn't have to be sherlock holmes to point the finger at m de bruin

dodgy husband

came from nowhere at 26

can't recall if gary o'toole called her out at the time -maybe not

 

[mikehammer67]

janet evens called her out at the meet

 

[gooner]

As was pointed out he went after Michelle Smith and her exploits at the time of the Atlanta Olympics. That was a difficult time for him and other journalists in Ireland like Kimmage, Eamon Dunphy and Tom Humphreys who got ridiculed for the questioning of her performances. As well Walsh was on Sky Sports News defending the investigation journalism of the Sunday Times into FIFA corruption against tough questioning as they were ridiculously blamed by many for sabotaging England's hopes of hosting the 2018 World Cup by exposing it.

I also don't get this "sellout" accusation that has been thrown against him. Sky rightly get criticised for going against their early promise of allowing Kimmage full access during the 2010 Tour. Yet people called for Sky to be more transparent and when it's done with the one of the most respected and credible journalists it's deemed as some sort of "sellout". Walsh has said in the past that the whole Leinders situation was a disaster for Sky but other than that what the hell is he supposed to write about on all this that will appease people here. The comments that we see around in the Clinic wouldn't be able to see the light of day in a newspaper. Take Kimmage's column in the Daily Mail during the Tour last year, he penned a piece about Wiggins and correctly pointed out about the hiring of Leinders and the contrast of Wiggins's current anti-doping stance to his previous one. He still wasn't able to go full on with his questioning though.

There is nothing to suggest that Bradley Wiggins achieved yesterday’s historic victory through anything other than talent and hard work.

That was Kimmage's first work since the previous November and he admitted afterwards that he was very worried that the article wouldn't be allowed to go print. It was obvious Kimmage believed this was the maximum he could go and the same applies to Walsh as well.

 

[rata de sentina]

No is indeed the correct answer.
He has written about many sports, in particular good and rugby. His first real foray in to doping was not in cycling but in swimming.

I would like to say I am surprised that you didn't know something so basic, but that would not be true.

I just want to express my admiration for you Dr M, I like the cut of your jib.

I am surprised that Walsh hasn't written an expose on mind altering substances in the Clinic although I am not sure about the "enhancement" aspect.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

now you didn't have to be sherlock holmes to point the finger at m de bruin

dodgy husband

came from nowhere at 26

can't recall if gary o'toole called her out at the time -maybe not

You might not needed to be Sherlock Holmes but calling out De Bruins gold medal exploits in Ireland in 96 was almost treason.

From memory, while Gary did not go as far as to call her out - he did not join in the flag waving.