Doping In Athletics

[King Boonen]

It’s banned by WADA, so it is doping. It could have also been used as a masking agent.

Wut?

 

[BullsFan22]

Wut?

Wut you read

 

[Tricycle Rider]

This "wut" conversation is making very little sense - could you guys post some reputable links so the rest of us (or at least me) can follow?

 

[Sciatic]

Who would be willing to cover for her though? I know Nike was totally behind her and even made a commercial hyping her up, but then she totally blew it...

She is a very polarizing person/athlete though, I'll give her that.

Yeah, probably too much conspiracy theory on my part. We assume that “silent bans” might exist where athletes avoid competitions for long stretches claiming injury, that this could have been a not-so-silent silent ban

 

[Nick2413]

Yeah, probably too much conspiracy theory on my part. We assume that “silent bans” might exist where athletes avoid competitions for long stretches claiming injury, that this could have been a not-so-silent silent ban

I’ve never understood the concept of silent bans. Is the idea that they’re obligated to hand down a ban but don’t have to divulge it legally? If not then why even bother with a ban if it’s all under the table anyway?

 

[Sciatic]

I’ve never understood the concept of silent bans. Is the idea that they’re obligated to hand down a ban but don’t have to divulge it legally? If not then why even bother with a ban if it’s all under the table anyway?

I’ve heard them talked about (mostly here in the clinic) in regard to tennis. But tennis organizations seem to acknowledge it’s been a thing:

Silent bans and how they affect tennis

Tennis - Players who have had doping violations have gotten away with silent bans in the past

www.tennisworldusa.org

Others on here are welcome to correct me but I’ve assumed that the purpose was to keep someone known to be doping from competing without tarnishing the players’, and more importantly tennis’s, image.

 

[King Boonen]

Wut you read

So random speculation not backed up by any evidence or understanding then? Glad we can clear that up.

 

[fmk_RoI]

It's a particularly advanced form of masking agent KB. The idea is you smoke some weed, forget to take your PEDs, the DCOs call round and test you and there's nothing there for them to find. Except the THC. But! And this is the super clever bit! When news of that gets out everyone thinks you're ok and no one thinks you're taking PEDs. Or being coached by Dennis Mitchell.

Today's dopers are so clever that only the Clinic can see through them.

 

[BullsFan22]

So random speculation not backed up by any evidence or understanding then? Glad we can clear that up.

You take yourself too seriously

 

[BullsFan22]

It's a particularly advanced form of masking agent KB. The idea is you smoke some weed, forget to take your PEDs, the DCOs call round and test you and there's nothing there for them to find. Except the THC. But! And this is the super clever bit! When news of that gets out everyone thinks you're ok and no one thinks you're taking PEDs. Or being coached by Dennis Mitchell.

Today's dopers are so clever that only the Clinic can see through them.

I know better than to trust American sprinters or British cyclists.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Jackson really close to FloJo's 200m WR with zero tailwind. Thomas jaw dropping reaction afterwards was spot on.

 

[Le breton]

Jackson really close to FloJo's 200m WR with zero tailwind. Thomas jaw dropping reaction afterwards was spot on.

Tailwind is an issue on 100 m dash, not really on 200 m (1/2 lap)
FloJo (10.49 is actually invalid on 100 dash)

 

[roundabout]

Tailwind is an issue on 100 m dash, not really on 200 m (1/2 lap)
FloJo (10.49 is actually invalid on 100 dash)

Tailiwind limit is set in the rules for distances up to 200 meters though

https://worldathletics.org/download/download?filename=7be8b411-2fca-4841-a5fe-9c8db836cc27.pdf&urlslug=C1.1%20%26%20C2.1%20-%20Competition%20Rules%20%26%20Technical%20Rules

Rule 31.14.3

 

[Mayomaniac]

Tailiwind limit is set in the rules for distances up to 200 meters though

https://worldathletics.org/download/download?filename=7be8b411-2fca-4841-a5fe-9c8db836cc27.pdf&urlslug=C1.1%20%26%20C2.1%20-%20Competition%20Rules%20%26%20Technical%20Rules

Rule 31.14.3

Yeah, the influence of wind in a 200m race seems a point that isn't clear cut, people often debate about it.

 

[BullsFan22]

Nice little sub 3:44 run from Ingebritsen and Nuguse

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Nice little sub 3:44 run from Ingebritsen and Nuguse

Is it the track and the shoes - or is it a little bit of something extra that wouldn't be considered legal?

I'm gonna go with a little bit of both.

 

[BigCoward]

5 seconds off the 5000 m world record seems highly dodgy.

 

[BigCoward]

And another one, over 2 mins off the female marathon world record.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

And another one, over 2 mins off the female marathon world record.

Absolutely unbelievable progress by Assefa. Last year she actually debuted (!) in marathon with 2h34' time. Then, without any previous significant achievements in long-distance running, she ran 2h15'37'' in Berlin (it was already very surprising and among the best runs in history). This year she smashes it and runs in 2h11'53'' absolutely destroying the previous WR of 2h14'04''. Her best half-marathon pace is worse than this, her best 10k pace (30'52'') is only slightly better than this marathon pace. She basically came out of nowhere regarding long-distance running, no medals, no achievements before last year Berlin marathon. She used to compete in 800 meters a few years back (also at the Rio Olympics).

 

[Aimar16]

This Berlin Marathon has always been the dirtiest event in the world. No need to be harsh on the poor African girl, she is clearly just a pawn for the corrupt German organisers and sponsors. Adidas certainly sells a lot of 500 euro shoes after this world record...

 

[Krzysztof_O]

This Berlin Marathon has always been the dirtiest event in the world. No need to be harsh on the poor African girl, she is clearly just a pawn for the corrupt German organisers and sponsors. Adidas certainly sells a lot of 500 euro shoes after this world record...

Just like in cycling, dead-flat course and moderate weather are important factors for high speed. But this performance is even beyond Berlin performances. It's been a ridiculous progress by this girl.

 

[Aimar16]

Just like in cycling, dead-flat course and moderate weather are important factors for high speed. But this performance is even beyond Berlin performances. It's been a ridiculous progress by this girl.

There's no question that time is ridiculous, but there's also no question that the poor African girl didn't develop some secret juicy on her own that made her a world-beater. The struggling Adidas company, making terrible running shoes that no one buys, now they're launching a new 500 euro shoe in which she's running a world record. It's not hard to put together the puzzle of who is the dirty here...

 

[Rob5091]

https://www.reuters.com/sports/athl...oping-officials-arrive-delhi-meet-2023-09-27/
Delhi state athletics meeting results in few competitors after Anti-doping Agency turns up ...

Photo from a bathroom -

 

[Sciatic]

https://www.reuters.com/sports/athl...oping-officials-arrive-delhi-meet-2023-09-27/
Delhi state athletics meeting results in few competitors after Anti-doping Agency turns up ...

Photo from a bathroom -

Wow, 7 of 8 sprinters who qualified for the 100 final dropped out before the race. So suspicious that now they will get those 7 tested (don’t know when/how though).

 

[Aimar16]

The guys probably just wanted a job.

Government jobs for medal winners from state - https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...-from-state/articleshow/97788581.cms?from=mdr