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Doping raid Operación Galgo: Fuentes Caught...again

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09/12/2010 | [http://elpais.com/articulo/deportes/Guardia/Civil/investiga]

Eufemiano Fuentes again

La red se dedicaba a realizar transfusiones de sangre a importantes deportistas de élite. Entre los nombres citados por ‘El País’ aparecen también el técnico Manuel Pascua Piqueras y el médico canario Eufemiano Fuentes, ya implicado en 2006 en la ‘Operación Puerto’. Informativos Telecinco también asegura que el ciclista Luis León Sánchez, actual campeón de España de contrarreloj, figura ente los investigados.
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2nd Source: [http://sportyou.es/blog/home/noticia-central/2010/12/09/detenidos-en-una-nueva-operacion-antidopaje]
 
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There's no mention of Sanchez in the El Pais article, and the second source seems like a blog?

Not saying it's not true, but Sanchez's definite involvement doesn't seem to be clear.
 
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Spanish newspaper says the Civil Guard is investigating a doping ring that implicates world steeplechase champion Marta Dominguez, and that her trainer has been arrested.

El Pais newspaper reports that the Civil Guard raided homes in Madrid, Palencia and Las Palmas as part of "Operation Galgo" and arrested trainer Cesar Perez.

Eufemiano Fuentes, the doctor at the center of the Operation Puerto investigation, is among the four reported suspects along with Dominguez, Perez and another trainer.

The Civil Guard confirmed an investigation was under way when contacted by The Associated Press, but would not comment on the matter.
 
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That's a bit confusing. Luis León Sánchez is mentioned in the second source, not in the first one. The blog cites Informativos Telecinco (the news in one of the biggest TV channels in Spain) as their source.

Anyway, wasn't LLS also involved in that shady thing with Kolobnev, Maté and others?
 
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It sounds like the media is picking up the story from whoever reported the wrong name. Marca mentioned Luis León Sánchez at first but they have now removed his name (here). El País mentions Alberto León, not Luis León Sánchez. As and El Mundo don't mention LLS either. Sounds like someone saw "León" and let their imagination run wild.
 
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It seems Spain is now starting to clean up more seriously.
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Well its the police when they are investigating other crimes they tend to "overhear" stuff like this. It was the same Puerto. They were on another investigation when they overheard the Fuentes conversations on the wiretaps.

It was the judiciary that let them including Fuentes get away with it. The sporting bodies have little interest.
 
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hrotha said:
It sounds like the media is picking up the story from whoever reported the wrong name. Marca mentioned Luis León Sánchez at first but they have now removed his name (here). El País mentions Alberto León, not Luis León Sánchez. As and El Mundo don't mention LLS either. Sounds like someone saw "León" and let their imagination run wild.
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I think you nailed it. For some reason I could see the Alberto Leon name in Spanish, but it wasn't showing up in Google Translate. But El Pais did have (add) "mountain bike" in italics in English next to the name.
 
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hrotha said:
It sounds like the media is picking up the story from whoever reported the wrong name. Marca mentioned Luis León Sánchez at first but they have now removed his name (here). El País mentions Alberto León, not Luis León Sánchez. As and El Mundo don't mention LLS either. Sounds like someone saw "León" and let their imagination run wild.
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Indeed.
Wonder if Rabobank will come up with some public dementi, cuz Luis León Sánchez's name is indeed spreading rapidly.

http://www.nortecastilla.es/rc/2010...acion-contra-dopaje-deporte-201012091240.html

In any case, Marta Dominguez and Manuel Pascua are big fish, and Fuentes' implication provides the special sauce.
 
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Either way, it's bouncing across Europe and another name will be smeared by a bunch of people who won't be bothered to make corrections. And in the future, people will be stating his involvement as fact. So it goes.
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Absolutely.

Like someone supposedly finding the initials A.C. scribbled on a piece of paper and that is supposed to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Contador was involved in Operation Puerto.

I see the good Dr. Fuentes can't stop doping riders. The only thing that will stop him is a revocation of his medical license and some jail time.
 
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Berzin said:
...I see the good Dr. Fuentes can't stop doping riders. The only thing that will stop him is a revocation of his medical license and some jail time.
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Amazing he can still practise, isn't it? It's like when they busted Santuccione as a result of Oil for Drugs, the guy was only banned from sporting medicine.
 
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Berzin said:
Absolutely.

Like someone supposedly finding the initials A.C. scribbled on a piece of paper and that is supposed to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Contador was involved in Operation Puerto.

I see the good Dr. Fuentes can't stop doping riders. The only thing that will stop him is a revocation of his medical license and some jail time.
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The odd thing for me is that lately Tuttobiciweb has printed articles from the Fuentes website as news. That was freaky.

The news said that Operation Greyhound grew out of Operation Grial from a year ago. I wonder if there was also shared information when the Spanish Civil Guard met with Novitsky in Lyon?
 
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Berzin said:
Absolutely.

Like someone supposedly finding the initials A.C. scribbled on a piece of paper and that is supposed to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Contador was involved in Operation Puerto.

I see the good Dr. Fuentes can't stop doping riders. The only thing that will stop him is a revocation of his medical license and some jail time.
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A double no:
1. The initials AC weren't on there supposedly, but indisputably.
2. Nobody says this proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Contador was involved in Operation Puerto, but rather that this strongly suggests that Contador was involved in Operation Puerto.

In the light of the data that we now dispose of (i.e. the CLEN-positive, the plasticizer-positive, which, I stress, are no evidence, but good clues all the same), the hypothesis of AC involved in OP is still not proven, but has definitely gained plausibility.
Basically, it's just about doing the math.
 
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theswordsman said:
Either way, it's bouncing across Europe and another name will be smeared by a bunch of people who won't be bothered to make corrections. And in the future, people will be stating his involvement as fact. So it goes.
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Yup. Just like you blaming Colom for Contador's doping.
 
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this thread should be closed, please, LL Sanchez is not involved, this was a mistake from Telecinco, the rider mentionned or investigated is mountain biker Alberto León.

Stop with intoxication please.
 
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this thread should be closed, please, LL Sanchez is not involved, this was a mistake from Telecinco, the rider mentionned or investigated is mountain biker Alberto León.

Stop with intoxication please.
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Good call

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