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doping: who cares? Not race organizers

May 27, 2010
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Ok, how hard is this to find dopers, if you really want to? if you're the TdF, you say "We're going to test all riders every day from a week before to a week after. You drop out early and we're still going to test you." Force teams to name their riders a week early. Everybody pees in a cup after every stage; everybody gives a micro blood sample every day and a larger sample every X days. If everyone is giving, it's equal, right? All tests will include a test for synthetic Testosterone. You create A,B,C samples with the knowledge that the C sample will become the B sample for future counter tests.

Costs a lotta bucks more, but you graph all results from multiple doping triggers and you get a result. If someone's pumping red blood cells, testosterone, epo/cera, dylithium crystals, whatever, it's gonna show in the numbers. Or it will be testable at some later date and the C sample can be used to catch the dopers.
done.

Why do we have to put up with this cheap guy behavior from the UCI/TDF etc which relies on "targeted testing" to catch the cheats? Test everyone. Now the field is equal.
 
Feb 14, 2010
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You're calling for 7,000 tests, plus travel each day the week before and the week after, so you pretty much need 200 testers the week before and after, doing nothing but following riders, with salary and overtime for being away from home, meals, hotels, airfare, temperature controlled transportation of samples with a chain of custody, etc..

During the week after the Tour last year, Contador showed the jersey in something like 4 crits, then headed home to Spain for a parade, etc. Armstrong headed to an island, so you would have a UCI inspector staying in a resort hotel for a week so he could make Lance urinate once a day? Then the labs have to process the 7000 tests, and a team of people have to do comparisons for each athlete? And what happens if a tester can't fly because of volcanic ash, so one rider misses a few days?

Some time last year I saw that the cost of a retest for CERA or something was maybe $500? You're talking about spending multiple millions of dollars and thousands of man hours so that one three week race could possibly be clean?
 
But that doesn't mean it would be clean, does it? Especially with how easy it's been proven the tests can be beaten.

There have been many ways discussed in the past to help combat doping. Please stick around the Clinic and they'll re-appear. Welcome to the forum, if I may say so.

biff47 said:
If someone's pumping red blood cells, testosterone, epo/cera, dylithium crystals, whatever, it's gonna show in the numbers. Or it will be testable at some later date and the C sample can be used to catch the dopers.
That stuff hasn't been used since the 60's, has it?

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