End Professional Cycling

[Mad Elephant Man]

Professional Cycling has proven itself to be totally dope ridden and corrupt.

Professional Cycling should stop, there should be no more races.

Perhaps in a decade or two it should come back.

Until then no more races.

 

[Ferminal]

Yes because professional cyclists are the only ones who breach the rules which govern them.

 

[Athame]

Be that all as it may, .... I'll still be awaiting my Sunday In Hell!

 

[Rambo1970]

It always has been, no?

Maybe better solution is that you stop watching it elephant man

 

[peterst6906]

Professional Cycling has proven itself to be totally dope ridden and corrupt.

Professional Cycling should stop, there should be no more races.

Perhaps in a decade or two it should come back.

Until then no more races.

You can always make the choice not to watch for a decade or two. Maybe it will be better then (I don't hold out much hope though).

 

[Mad Elephant Man]

Yes because professional cyclists are the only ones who breach the rules which govern them.

It is irrelevant what other sports people do.

 

[Mad Elephant Man]

It always has been, no?

Maybe better solution is that you stop watching it elephant man

I have fairly much. Not looking forward to any races. It has been ruined. It just seems never to stop.

 

[Mad Elephant Man]

You can always make the choice not to watch for a decade or two. Maybe it will be better then (I don't hold out much hope though).

Perhaps I will.

 

[chase196126]

Honestly, opinions like this sicken me. Cycling may have some major issues with drugs but stopping a beautiful sport to try to clean it up will simply kill it, or relegate it to the same popularity as Race Across America.

You say it is completely irrelevant what other sports do in comparison to cycling. To the contrary, it is incredibly relevant. We keep pushing cycling as the sacrificial lamb in the fight against doping, yet no other sport has put itself in the situation cycling has. Cycling journalists love a great doping story because it draws interest from readers, where other sport writers don't really want to know what is going on. To most reporters and fans sport is entertainment, they don't care how filthy the athletes are as long as they don't know about it (the old saying about making sausage...). Other sports avoid testing and taking down athletes, especially stars, where cycling has killed the reputation of most of its major players from the last 20 years. If you are calling for the death of pro cycling, you should be calling for the death of all professional sports because they all have the same dirty performances.

For some reason I get the feeling that you are one of the people who calls for clean riding and then gets all ****ed off that racing is no longer exciting. If you want clean rides you are going to see efforts that are human, not extra terrestrial. You cannot condemn doping on one hand and complain about physical performance on the other.

The solution to saving Pro Cycling is to continue running races, increase anti doping pressure, educate new riders, and increase punishments (both suspensions and jail time). Your idea is short sighted and biased.

 

[martinvickers]

Cycling is riddled. riddled with drugs, and frankly corruption. It needs completely cleaned out.

But please, don't kid yourself that Cycling is the worst sport in this regard.

Baseball is just as bad. As, frankly, is athletics.

Weightlifting is far worse.

American football makes cycling doping look amateur, and then throws on extreme concussive injuries on top. Read about Junior Seau, or the recent stuff from Jason Taylor, a legend of the game, and weep.

Bear in mind also that, despite the melodrama, cycling right now is not where it was in the 1995-2005 period. It's not clean yet, of course, but it's at least working on it.

Never before have so many doped riders been willing to spill. It makes cycling look terrible right now. But it's the necessary medicine. You can't treat the wound until you expose it. Better that than continually hiding it

 

[Ferminal]

It is irrelevant what other sports people do.

My point was not limited to sports.

 

[Mad Elephant Man]

Honestly, opinions like this sicken me. Cycling may have some major issues with drugs but stopping a beautiful sport to try to clean it up will simply kill it, or relegate it to the same popularity as Race Across America.

You say it is completely irrelevant what other sports do in comparison to cycling. To the contrary, it is incredibly relevant. We keep pushing cycling as the sacrificial lamb in the fight against doping, yet no other sport has put itself in the situation cycling has. Cycling journalists love a great doping story because it draws interest from readers, where other sport writers don't really want to know what is going on. To most reporters and fans sport is entertainment, they don't care how filthy the athletes are as long as they don't know about it (the old saying about making sausage...). Other sports avoid testing and taking down athletes, especially stars, where cycling has killed the reputation of most of its major players from the last 20 years. If you are calling for the death of pro cycling, you should be calling for the death of all professional sports because they all have the same dirty performances.

For some reason I get the feeling that you are one of the people who calls for clean riding and then gets all ****ed off that racing is no longer exciting. If you want clean rides you are going to see efforts that are human, not extra terrestrial. You cannot condemn doping on one hand and complain about physical performance on the other.

The solution to saving Pro Cycling is to continue running races, increase anti doping pressure, educate new riders, and increase punishments (both suspensions and jail time). Your idea is short sighted and biased.

oiho;houho

 

[Mad Elephant Man]

My point was not limited to sports.

Okay, sorry I misunderstood.

EDIT: It then becomes a religious issue for me and off topic.

 

[Eshnar]

Perhaps in a decade or two it should come back.

why do you think a stop would improve the situation?

 

[Mad Elephant Man]

Cycling is riddled. riddled with drugs, and frankly corruption. It needs completely cleaned out.

But please, don't kid yourself that Cycling is the worst sport in this regard.

Baseball is just as bad. As, frankly, is athletics.

Weightlifting is far worse.

American football makes cycling doping look amateur, and then throws on extreme concussive injuries on top. Read about Junior Seau, or the recent stuff from Jason Taylor, a legend of the game, and weep.

Bear in mind also that, despite the melodrama, cycling right now is not where it was in the 1995-2005 period. It's not clean yet, of course, but it's at least working on it.

Never before have so many doped riders been willing to spill. It makes cycling look terrible right now. But it's the necessary medicine. You can't treat the wound until you expose it. Better that than continually hiding it

Where did I say professional cycling was the worst sport?
Where did I say I wanted other sports to continue professionally?
This is a cycling forum so I am commenting on cycling.

 

[ElChingon]

I wouldn't mind if they stopped till MSR, most of the races till then are pretty much pack fodder anyway.

 

[Mad Elephant Man]

why do you think a stop would improve the situation?

If there is no professional cycling then there cannot be doping or corruption in professional cycling.

 

[Eshnar]

If there is no professional cycling then there cannot be doping or corruption in professional cycling.

Isn't it a bit like throwing away your wallet because you're scared someone might steal it?

 

[Mad Elephant Man]

Isn't it a bit like throwing away your wallet because you're scared someone might steal it?

No, I don't think so.

 

[ultimobici]

Professional Cycling has proven itself to be totally dope ridden and corrupt.

Professional Cycling should stop, there should be no more races.

Perhaps in a decade or two it should come back.

Until then no more races.

By the same logic when a person is diagnosed with cancer they should be put out of their misery. Forget chemotherapy, radiotherapy or any other treatment, just put em down!

Genius approach, man!

 

[ebandit]

Stoopid

not been reading forum forever but this must be close to the 'stoopidist thread EVER'

fact is most people are corrupt....................dress it up as much as one likes
but most will do ANYTHING to get ahead ( if they can avoid being caught )

may as well cancel life

 

[Eshnar]

No, I don't think so.

well I do. you wanna get rid of the patient in order to cure the disease.

 

[Mad Elephant Man]

By the same logic when a person is diagnosed with cancer they should be put out of their misery. Forget chemotherapy, radiotherapy or any other treatment, just put em down!

Genius approach, man!

It is not the same logic. Think about it and you will see the two cases are not the same.

 

[Mad Elephant Man]

not been reading forum forever but this must be close to the 'stoopidist thread EVER'

fact is most people are corrupt....................dress it up as much as one likes
but most will do ANYTHING to get ahead ( if they can avoid being caught )

may as well cancel life

Again your comparison is flawed. I wonder if you can work out why.

 

[Mad Elephant Man]

well I do. you wanna get rid of the patient in order to cure the disease.

The comparison is flawed.