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luckyboy said:
Some of the 'reviews' Bloomsbury picked, lol https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/magic-spanner-9781472959867/

“I've heard all these stories before, but it was great to read them in silence...” – Dan Lloyd, GCN presenter and winner of the 2008 Vuelta Extremadura

“Get that bloody [Carlton] Kirby down here – I'd like to give him a good slap” – Mark Cavendish,

“[Carlton Kirby] You make it sound like I'm not paying attention” – Chris Froome,

I wonder how many pages are going to be about Seb Reichenbach, Simon Clarke and motorbikes passing within 2 metres of the break??
The biggest question is, will Manny Bookman embed himself or impose himself?
 
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Armchair cyclist said:
Annoying to have Hatch constantly referring to Lopez as 'Superman': makes him sound like a fanboy rather than an informed and unbiased commentator.


In other words, makes him more Kirby-esque.
Have to admit he was getting on my nerves a bit yesterday and some long silences from Sean...........
 
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Squire said:
luckyboy said:
Some of the 'reviews' Bloomsbury picked, lol https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/magic-spanner-9781472959867/

“I've heard all these stories before, but it was great to read them in silence...” – Dan Lloyd, GCN presenter and winner of the 2008 Vuelta Extremadura

“Get that bloody [Carlton] Kirby down here – I'd like to give him a good slap” – Mark Cavendish,

“[Carlton Kirby] You make it sound like I'm not paying attention” – Chris Froome,

I wonder how many pages are going to be about Seb Reichenbach, Simon Clarke and motorbikes passing within 2 metres of the break??
The biggest question is, will Manny Bookman embed himself or impose himself?
At least he stopped suggesting that Bora were trying to set up sprints for Buchmann when he eventually realised that he and Ackermann are different people.
 
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movingtarget said:
Armchair cyclist said:
Annoying to have Hatch constantly referring to Lopez as 'Superman': makes him sound like a fanboy rather than an informed and unbiased commentator.


In other words, makes him more Kirby-esque.


Have to admit he was getting on my nerves a bit yesterday and some long silences from Sean...........
Couldn't agree more. I generally like Rob Hatch's commentary but he seems to be making himself more like Kirby, getting overly excited and very pro certain riders, although the Yates worship has toned down since the last TT result.
I am beginning to wonder whether he has been told to make himself a bit more like Kirby so that they can justify using him instead of Kirby going forward.
 
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"I used to go fishing without bait on the hook, because I found the idea of getting a fish off the hook frightening" - Karsten Kroon 2019
 
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mariposa said:
movingtarget said:
Armchair cyclist said:
Annoying to have Hatch constantly referring to Lopez as 'Superman': makes him sound like a fanboy rather than an informed and unbiased commentator.


In other words, makes him more Kirby-esque.


Have to admit he was getting on my nerves a bit yesterday and some long silences from Sean...........
Couldn't agree more. I generally like Rob Hatch's commentary but he seems to be making himself more like Kirby, getting overly excited and very pro certain riders, although the Yates worship has toned down since the last TT result.
I am beginning to wonder whether he has been told to make himself a bit more like Kirby so that they can justify using him instead of Kirby going forward.

Then why not just use Kirby (qm) Unless you know something we don't, the network wouldn't be wasting time trying to create another Kirby. They already have one.
If your theory has some traction, that would just go to show that my man Carlton Kirby is beloved by the masses. CK has a ton of positive feedback from non-cyclists. Otherwise, the network would not be doing what you are suggesting. That is a fact. We all know that there is a general culture of disdain held with those who ride their bike more than 400 k a week. One can only speculate why.
 
I really haven't noticed Hatch being favourable about riders to be honest, at least not to the extent that Kirby is. Don't think he is as excited as Kirby either, with all the yelling and stuff.

He is clearly the best British ES guy for identifying riders, getting pronounciations right and adding little facts and historical notes into the commentary. I think Kirby isn't too good at the last point. Kirby is largely fine though, and probably better for fans who aren't total expert/nerds like everyone here.


Hatch and Stephens is the best commentary duo, imo. It's a shame Stephens is send out to interview James Knox and Matt White every day during this Giro. Just send Ashley, Simon Richardson, Laura out to do interviews like that.

Stephens would be better doing some jokey pre-recorded stuff, a stage recon video, and in the commentary box.
 
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luckyboy said:
I really haven't noticed Hatch being favourable about riders to be honest, at least not to the extent that Kirby is. Don't think he is as excited as Kirby either, with all the yelling and stuff.

He is clearly the best British ES guy for identifying riders, getting pronounciations right and adding little facts and historical notes into the commentary. I think Kirby isn't too good at the last point. Kirby is largely fine though, and probably better for fans who aren't total expert/nerds like everyone here.


Hatch and Stephens is the best commentary duo, imo. It's a shame Stephens is send out to interview James Knox and Matt White every day during this Giro. Just send Ashley, Simon Richardson, Laura out to do interviews like that.

Stephens would be better doing some jokey pre-recorded stuff, a stage recon video, and in the commentary box.
Yeah Stephens is good. Don't mind Magnus either. Hatch has been pretty good.
 
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RedheadDane said:
Fellow Danes! I have a question…
"Landa was a black asphalt spot?" :confused: Somethhing that happened on stage 14?
I don't think this is a question.

But Thomas Bay was yelling and dramatising because of - nothing - one day. Apparently, he mistook a black spot on the road for Landa and thought he had crashed when in fact nothing of the sort had happened.

I don't know if this answers your "question".
 
Some inane question about which guest they'd like to have on the sofa turned into a discussion about the mental health and mentality of cyclists thanks to Wiggins. Much more interesting. He has been a good choice for this.
 
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the delgados said:
mariposa said:
movingtarget said:
Armchair cyclist said:
Annoying to have Hatch constantly referring to Lopez as 'Superman': makes him sound like a fanboy rather than an informed and unbiased commentator.


In other words, makes him more Kirby-esque.


Have to admit he was getting on my nerves a bit yesterday and some long silences from Sean...........
Couldn't agree more. I generally like Rob Hatch's commentary but he seems to be making himself more like Kirby, getting overly excited and very pro certain riders, although the Yates worship has toned down since the last TT result.
I am beginning to wonder whether he has been told to make himself a bit more like Kirby so that they can justify using him instead of Kirby going forward.

Then why not just use Kirby (qm) Unless you know something we don't, the network wouldn't be wasting time trying to create another Kirby. They already have one.
If your theory has some traction, that would just go to show that my man Carlton Kirby is beloved by the masses. CK has a ton of positive feedback from non-cyclists. Otherwise, the network would not be doing what you are suggesting. That is a fact. We all know that there is a general culture of disdain held with those who ride their bike more than 400 k a week. One can only speculate why.
The key words were "a bit like Kirby" The full blown version spouts insuperable twaddle most of the time and is beginning to outwear his welcome.

I haven't actually met one person who likes Kirby as a commentator, cyclist or non cyclist. All his support seems to be on forums like this.
 
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luckyboy said:
Hatch ... is clearly the best British ES guy for identifying riders, getting pronounciations right and adding little facts and historical notes into the commentary.
I think he tends to over-pronounce on the languages that he is competent in, and I do sometimes wonder whether it is a confident pronunciation or a guess based on some exposure to the languages in question.

But what is with the pronunciation of Gabriel Cullaigh? The abbreviation of the first name to "Gabs" is horrible (IMHO), but might be the rider's choice, but 'Cullayg'? Surely it is an Irish or Scots derived name: 'Cully' with perhaps a slight aspiration on the final syllable.

But there again, I always assume that Geoghegan-Hart's forename should rhyme with 'cow'. The way they say it always reminds me of Irish crisps.
 
Really can't see ES replacing Kirby - he's their No 1 - and has never done the Giro for them as lead anyway so his dunting to the International sphere is not a sign of anything. Hatch has done the Giro since 2014 - though CK was involved in 2018 when the stage length increased. CK will be in the saddle for all of the biggies to come, as ever.
 
Eurosport strikes again with the two mountain stages of Dauphine that go to the player because of Le Mans, why not trying a third channel? Next year there are also the Olympics and they really need space.

Anyway a couple of days ago Gregorio said that they bought the Tour de Suisse exclusive for the next five years, at least a very good news.
 

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