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Oh, man. I know I'm fighting a losing battle here, and I know coming back here time and time again to defend me man Carlton is a masochistic exercise. I'm not going to win. I get it.
But with that said, I can't help defending my man Carlton from random abuse, especially after his brilliant performance in today's stage of the Volta. How many commentators do you know have come up with the phrase "drowning not waving" to determine whether a rider is in trouble? To ignore that off the cuff remark is akin to saying you don't appreciate the English language and the various ways words can be combined.
That doesn't make you a bad person, but you might fall into the "boring' level in terms of the criteria used to determine how interesting an individual might be. But that's just me! I don't hold a monopoly on making those determinations, and I might be wrong to suggest anything other than the possibility that you are the most interesting person on earth. Who knows?
I wish I had a note pad with me to write down the amount of times he used a clever metaphor as a segway before handing things off to his colleague. And this stuff is off the cuff, not scripted.
Speaking of scripts, of course every commentator has a list of information in front of them before going on air. To suggest my man CK doesn't is just silly. Even more silly is the suggestion that he doesn't like the sport. That is absurd.

P.S. If anyone is annoyed by the length and content of this message, blame the pandemic, not me. I happen to have a lot of time on my hands.
But if that's what you and some others care for there are many good poetry slammers and theatre people who know absolutely nothing about cycling but who sure could be taught some basics and would probably do the job... Why Kirby? ;)
 
Just out of curiousity - only started watching with English commentating relatively recently - does he ever correct any of his mistakes live?
Not really, and almost never with any sense of apology.

There was an example of this yesterday. Kirby stated, as if it were an obvious fact, that Luke Rowe's red numbers were a "most aggressive rider" award. Presumably he had no evidence for this (he rarely if ever seems to have looked up the particular rules for any race), and it would seem odd that a guy coming third last in a time trial would be awarded as the most competitive rider for such an effort.
A few kilometres later he acknowledged the possibility that he might have been wrong. I didn't hear whether this was in response to people tweeting his oft repeated twitter identity. But didn't admit that he was, he just said that he didn't think the red dossard was a top of the team standings indicator as he hadn't noticed any other Ineos riders with them. So essentially his response to being told he was wrong was to question whether those pointing out that he was wrong were right.

Arrogance and ignorance are never a happy combination.
 
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Kirby did seem to be on particularly bad form during yesterday's Summit Finish. What annoyed me a fair amount was the plugging for GCN/Eurosport getting the rights for the rest of the Flanders Classics races this year during the final 4kms. He completely ignored the action on the screen for a minute or so, and I'm pretty sure you could hear Brian Smith wanting to speak abou what was going on and the rider who was attacking (I can't remember as they werent mentioned).
 
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British Eurosport commentary pairings season 2021 (men's elite):

Grand Prix La Marseillaise (live on 31/1): Kirby & Smith (ES Player/GCN only)
Volta a la Comunitat Valenciana (live from 3/2): tbc
Tour of Provence (live from 11/2): Lloyd & Stephens (ES Player/GCN only)
Clasica De Almeria: Hatch & Backstedt
Tour of Alpes-Maritimes (live from 20/2): Been & Stephens (ES Player/GCN only)
UAE Tour (live from 21/2): Kirby & Smith
Omloop Het Niewsblad (live on 27/2): Lloyd & Blythe
Kuurne-Brussel-Kuurne (live on 28/2): Hatch & Blythe
GP Le Samyn (live on 2/3): Been & Backstedt
Strade Bianche (live 6/3): Hatch & Lloyd
Grand Prix Jean Monsere: (live 7/3): Been & Backstedt
Paris-Nice (live from 7/3): Hatch & Blythe
Tirreno-Adriatico (live from 10/3): Kirby & Lloyd
Nokere Koerse (live on 17/3): Been & Backstedt
Bredene Koksijde Classic (live on 19/3): Been & Backstedt
Milano-Sanremo (live on 20/3): Hatch & Smith
Volta Ciclista a Catalunya (live from 22/3): Kirby & Smith
Brugge - De Panne (live on 24/3): Hatch & Blythe
E3 SaxoBank Classic (live on 26/3): Hatch & Blythe (ES Player/GCN only)
Gent - Wevelgem (live on 28/3): Stephens & Blythe
Cholet Pays De La Loire (live on 28/3): Been & Backstedt (ES Player/GCN only)
Dwars door Vlaanderen (live on 31/3): Kirby & Blythe
GP Miguel Indurain: (live on 3/4): Jez Cox & Blythe
Ronde van Vlaanderen (live on 4/4): Kirby & Blythe
Itzulia Basque Country: (live from 5/4): tbc
Scheldeprijs (live on 7/4): tbc
Presidential Tour of Turkey (live from 11/4): tbc
 
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Just out of curiousity - only started watching with English commentating relatively recently - does he ever correct any of his mistakes live?
I don’t think he knows what he is saying half the time. On occasion he’ll correct mistakes, but he actually tried to convince the audience that they didn’t understand what they were seeing just because he was wrong.
 
But if that's what you and some others care for there are many good poetry slammers and theatre people who know absolutely nothing about cycling but who sure could be taught some basics and would probably do the job... Why Kirby? ;)
You're gonna have to ask that question to the people responsible for hiring staff. I can't say for sure, but the fact my man Carlton Kirby can pick Sebastien Reichebach out of a police line-up would give him a leg up on the competition.
 
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Just out of curiousity - only started watching with English commentating relatively recently - does he ever correct any of his mistakes live?
There was a time in recent years when my man Carlton Kirby would apologize for stepping on his own shadow. I can only imagine that was a result of those carrying pitchforks who descended on his Twitter page to say he is a waste of human skin. That would make anyone with the thickest of skin become a bit uppity.
Thankfully he realizes he's just calling a bike race and it's totally normal to misidentify a rider. No biggie.
 
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Thankfully he realizes he's just calling a bike race and it's totally normal to misidentify a rider. No biggie.
Of course it's normal, it's also normal to acknowledge your mistakes. I'll give you an example (not ES commentators, but anyway):
During stage 1 of Catalunya, Danish commentators were discussing the chances of Kron in the late break - turns out, they were pretty good - at one point one of them mentioned how he didn't know much about the Cofidis rider, who had at first been misidentified in the graphics as Thomas Champion. When one of the others pointed out that the graphics had been corrected to say Remy Rochas, the first commentator pointed out that... he doesn't know much about him either.
There are plenty others, they just correct themselves, maybe joke a little about it, and carry on.
 
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Of course it's normal, it's also normal to acknowledge your mistakes. I'll give you an example (not ES commentators, but anyway):
During stage 1 of Catalunya, Danish commentators were discussing the chances of Kron in the late break - turns out, they were pretty good - at one point one of them mentioned how he didn't know much about the Cofidis rider, who had at first been misidentified in the graphics as Thomas Champion. When one of the others pointed out that the graphics had been corrected to say Remy Rochas, the first commentator pointed out that... he doesn't know much about him either.
There are plenty others, they just correct themselves, maybe joke a little about it, and carry on.
Yes, that's really nice. Chris Anker Sørensen is becoming a great commentator, I think. He may not have the best voice for it but he is extremely knowledgeable, is good at identifying riders, he is funny and just a nice guy through and through. Rolf may not be as precise with his analyses but at least he owns up to that and knows that he is an eternal optimist and is able to joke about that too. Also, cycling without his voice on TV2 would just be wrong. And then we have Rasmus Staghøj. I may never become his biggest fan but he doesn't fall through, either.
 
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Of course it's normal, it's also normal to acknowledge your mistakes. I'll give you an example (not ES commentators, but anyway):
During stage 1 of Catalunya, Danish commentators were discussing the chances of Kron in the late break - turns out, they were pretty good - at one point one of them mentioned how he didn't know much about the Cofidis rider, who had at first been misidentified in the graphics as Thomas Champion. When one of the others pointed out that the graphics had been corrected to say Remy Rochas, the first commentator pointed out that... he doesn't know much about him either.
There are plenty others, they just correct themselves, maybe joke a little about it, and carry on.
Exactly how it should be done. We're not talking about the Cuban Missile Crisis.
And by the way, I challenge anyone to identify more than one rider from Cofidis. That team should be called Casper the Friendly Ghost, for ffs.
 
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