Eurosport commentary

[fmk_RoI]

Has Robbie been sin-binned? Or have HR hooked up to one of those machines that wipes such phrases from his mind?

 

[King Of The Wolds]

Has Robbie been sin-binned? Or have HR hooked up to one of those machines that wipes such phrases from his mind?

He's still there and he's apologised. Do you think it's a sin-binnable offence?

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

The thing is there is no other usage of that word in the English language so it's strange that he brought it up. Ok, you could argue that someone who puts fudge in boxes is a fudge packer but that's rarely if ever used, e.g. not one is ever called a beans packers, a sweet packer.

I'm sure ''that was the joke'' he was trying to make. I'm sure Eddie Merphy would have had great success with it in his 1987 stand up comedy. Hell, even 10 years ago nobody would have batted an eye. But times are changing.

 

[fmk_RoI]

He's still there and he's apologised. Do you think it's a sin-binnable offence?

He wasn't there earlier, Sideshow Rob came on with Adam Blight. As for whether he should be re-educated - it's perfectly okay for cycling to take China's money but we don't need to take much else from them.

 

[saganftw]

lets hope robbie doesnt smoke or wishes to discuss italian wooden musical instruments

 

[CyclistAbi]

If i understand correctly what was said is somebody eat some candy. Literary and not implying something else by it. And then supposedly some section from LGBTQ2S+ got offended? And the person that eat candy after apologized for it?

Intense.

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

If i understand correctly what was said is somebody eat some candy. Literary and not implying something else by it. And then supposedly some section from LGBTQ2S+ got offended? And the person that eat candy after apologized for it?

Intense.

Shocker indeed

 

[Samu Cuenca]

If i understand correctly what was said is somebody eat some candy. Literary and not implying something else by it. And then supposedly some section from LGBTQ2S+ got offended? And the person that eat candy after apologized for it?

Intense.

The thing was that GCN/ES seemed to be were well aware that it could be viewed as being offensive and therefore decided not to make the race replay available with English commentary, but still didn't comment on it before days later.

Now I doubt there was any bad intent on McEwen's part here, but it could have been put to bed faster.

 

[Carrick-On-Seine]

lets hope robbie doesnt smoke or wishes to discuss italian wooden musical instruments

I think they'll need to keep him away from supermarkets in Bath in case he finds out what the English call pork meatballs.

 

[argyllflyer]

If i understand correctly what was said is somebody eat some candy. Literary and not implying something else by it. And then supposedly some section from LGBTQ2S+ got offended? And the person that eat candy after apologized for it?

Intense.

He said that someone (Rob Hatch) ate candy so quickly it was waste of the candy packers time... except 'fudgepacker' is a well known derogatory term for gay men and their act of penetrative gay sex.

He clearly was amused by the use of the phrase even if it was out of context.

 

[Lequack]

Actually it was in context. They were in a fudge shop. Using it as a sex term would be out of context. In a modern world you offend someone somewhere even if you don't say anything at all.

 

[CyclistAbi]

I see there was a "special word" involved. Now if you are not a "native speaker" or an insider then it is an easy miss. At least now i understand this one:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKbLquqxBAQ

 

[CyclistAbi]

Here you got to hand it to Kirby. This would not have happened on his watch.

 

[42x16ss]

RMcE said in response to Rob Hatch, after Rob H said that Sean "took me down a naughty alley" to a fudge shop, that the "fudgepackers were wasting their time" as RH had guzzled it so quickly - its a play on words. It's not meant as a homophobic insult in that context - its not like he commented on Guarnieri's rainbow wrist band and said "there's no fudgepackers in our sport!" Then again, it's not said to stand in solidarity with undervalued confectionary warehouse employees.

It was tone deaf to use that phrase anywhere near an open mic.

That's the crux of the issue isn't it. This was very, very clumsy at best from McEwen.

 

[Kaptain Kool]

Let's get things straight:

1. Are people calling for McEwan to be fired? Maybe, but I haven't seen it.
2. He absolutely should not have said it and it has nothing to do with the "modern age."

Also, gmab about "Eddie Murphy" could have said it. Context matters. Even in the 1980's, someone doing live commenting of a sports event couldn't say the same things as a comedian doing standup. Ancient sportscasters didn't slip in derogatory slang terms for kicks back then either, at least where I grew up (the US).

Here's the thing, most young comedians (or actors, writers, etc.) take on office or service industry jobs to pay the rent. Not only do they understand that expectations of behavior are different in their performance-/art-world vs their office/service industry lives, they also figure out that you can be more relaxed when interacting informally with co-workers than dealing with customers.
If every 20 year old knows this, shouldn't 50-year old McEwan?

My take is McEwan probably got confused by the overly informal nature the GCN Giro production overall. I mean, the Breakaway is just 30 minutes of giggling and inside jokes. When GCN decision makers were deciding on the type of vibe they want, they somehow decided upon "Suburban teenagers hanging out in a basement on Saturday afternoon."

 

[dusty red roads]

I'm not sure this term is known in its derogatory sense in Oz. I (an Aussie) certainly had never heard of it, though of course I can't speak for McK on that. I'll have to ask around to my Aussie friends.

 

[gunara]

Here you got to hand it to Kirby. This would not have happened on his watch.

No, Kirby can't just have free point for anything he doesn't do, that would be too easy for him.

 

[Carrick-On-Seine]

I'm not sure this term is known in its derogatory sense in Oz. I (an Aussie) certainly had never heard of it, though of course I can't speak for McK on that. I'll have to ask around to my Aussie friends.

The term is only derogatory and he wouldn’t have just dreamed up a new word.
I think @Kaptain Kool made a good point about the GCN production values. It’s all way too matey and backslapping so a faux pas was inevitable at some point.

 

[Carrick-On-Seine]

No, Kirby can't just have free point for anything he doesn't do, that would be too easy for him.

I'm fearing Kirby would have escalated it by making a scathing remark about the progeny of convicts swiftly followed by an apology to Simon Clarke.

 

[wirral]

Here you got to hand it to Kirby. This would not have happened on his watch.

Indeed, Kirby is a seasoned pro. He wouldn't have made such a schoolboy presenting error.

If he had, he would have added, "Other types of confectionery are available."

 

[CyclistAbi]

"modern age."

I don't know about that. In my opinion this is about going backwards. In addition i very much doubt it's in favor of gay men. It's some sort of self-righteous mayhem.

Likely the time has come for straight, gay, black, white, men, woman, undefined ... to step together and start fighting it. As this doesn't work in our interest but against us all.

 

[Kaptain Kool]

I don't know about that. In my opinion this is about going backwards. In addition i very much doubt it's in favor of gay men. It's some sort of self-righteous mayhem.

Likely the time has come for straight, gay, black, white, men, woman, undefined ... to step together and start fighting it. As this doesn't work in our interest but against us all.

I don't follow. Everyone one should band together so that The Breakaway can do more giggling? Why? It's become unwatchable.

 

[tao bleeding heart]

I don't follow. Everyone one should band together so that The Breakaway can do more giggling? Why? It's become unwatchable.

sooner have more Breakaway giggling, than the Wokeish Inquisition

 

[CyclistAbi]

I don't follow. Everyone one should band together so that The Breakaway can do more giggling? Why? It's become unwatchable.

In whose exact interest it is to have people divided in such way. Internet mob? Witch-hunting sprees are in my opinion not all that modern approach. People behind it usually tend to have sinister motives.

All in all people that accept other people based on their color of the skin, gender and sexual orientation ... This are in my opinion reasonable people. And such people in my opinion have a duty to fight against the current state of things. Recognizing it for what it is and that is as unacceptable.

 

[Kaptain Kool]

Hmm... I guess were referring to different things cuz I still don't follow. My post was about the watchability of the GCN broadcast. Constant giggling and the Chatty Friends in a Room concept is annoying. I don't know anything about abstract concepts like witch hunts, internet mobs or the rest of it.