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So all big 4 participating. Likely beneficial to Rogla and Bora for approaching the race a bit more tactically, on where Pogi and UAE can try to find some Giro nails in Pogi legs for themself. Or should Rogla and Bora help with that in week one and to risk blowing up deeper in the race. As true, if everything is left to Pogi, he might not go in the finding the Giro leg nails zone all that often, Yates is not that good. Interesting decisions to be made and we'll see soon.
 
So all big 4 participating. Likely beneficial to Rogla and Bora for approaching the race a bit more tactically, on where Pogi and UAE can try to find some Giro nails in Pogi legs for themself. Or should Rogla and Bora help with that in week one and to risk blowing up deeper in the race. As true, if everything is left to Pogi, he might not go in the finding the Giro leg nails zone all that often, Yates is not that good. Interesting decisions to be made and we'll see soon.
Bora has never been on the podium of the Tour so far. It would be beneficial to them to eliminate Jonas early on. Especially as Rog has a better time trial than both Americans on Visma.
 
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Bora has never been on the podium of the Tour so far. It would be beneficial to them to eliminate Jonas early on. Especially as Rog has a better time trial than both Americans on Visma.

Pogi should in my opinion focus on Jonas, Rogla has better things to do, aiming to win the overall. Now UAE likely won't put Pogi under such pressure, to start feeling the Giro in his legs, Bora should, but when, that i guess is the question, early on or latter into the race. As week one could be perfect for it. We'll see.
 
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  • Crashes
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  • New team
  • No Sepp Kuss
  • Time Trials
  • Tactics
So hopefully no crashes, i agree with that. Although Rogla doesn't crash all that much, especially not on his own, compared to other cyclists, as they all crash a whole lot. Bad moments, here i feel if it happens, then to mitigate the damages and don't worry too much about it. It's true that a new team and the lack of Sepp Kuss could be considered as being an obstacle, still it's not like riding for his old team, Rogla would be supported as a team leader. Wout, Sepp and Co. would all ride for Jonas and Jonas would ride for Jonas. So i don't see this as an obstacle but much much more improved situation for Rogla. Time trials, here i feel that true, Rogla didn't win all time trials in his career, and it was a time trial at the Tour 2020, that costed him the overall title. Still i will always consider time trials as beneficial, when it comes to Rogla and improving his GC chances. Especially the ones more similar to Rogla becoming an Olympic champion, and there is for sure some of that invoked in the Tour 2024 edition. As for the tactics, this is rather debatable, if you win then surely the tactics were spot on. So i don't agree that Jonas is that much better tactician, we will see about that the first time he struggles. Rogla managed to turn around a lot of unfavourable situations, for him, so he can't be that bad tactician. And no risk, no glory type of riding, you just have to have some fun from time to time.
 
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Kuss not starting now makes the strategy clearer for Bora, but not less complicated. UAE will want to drive a stake into Jonas early and it will be Primoz that has to pay attention if he wants to be on the podium. UAE's depth give them so many angles to play that Bora will go nuts trying to keep up.

I see his tactical situation as very simple tbh, i.e. mark Pog until the end of week 3.

I think Rog will live or die in this Tour based on what Pog does, i.e. the ball is in his court. I doubt Rog will start chasing wheels all over the road. If Almeida goes up the road, Vlasov can cover. If Yates goes, Hindley should go etc.

But there's one back wheel Rog should be glued to & that's Pog's. Unless Vingegaard demonstrates he's at the required level, I don't see that situation changing much (although as always maybe some opportunism could be achieved with an echelon or something).

Follow the yellow brick road... i.e. Pog's wheel. And if Pog gives the yellow jersey to one of his teammates, call his bluff. We all know Pog will do everything to win the Tour again therefor IMO everyone else on UAE is just a distraction. Pog's in it for the win himself. So Rog should simply ignore his UAE teammates. And he will, IMO.
 
I see his tactical situation as very simple tbh, i.e. mark Pog until the end of week 3.

I think Rog will live or die in this Tour based on what Pog does, i.e. the ball is in his court. I doubt Rog will start chasing wheels all over the road. If Almeida goes up the road, Vlasov can cover. If Yates goes, Hindley should go etc.

But there's one back wheel Rog should be glued to & that's Pog's. Unless Vingegaard demonstrates he's at the required level, I don't see that situation changing much (although as always maybe some opportunism could be achieved with an echelon or something).

Follow the yellow brick road... i.e. Pog's wheel. And if Pog gives the yellow jersey to one of his teammates, call his bluff. We all know Pog will do everything to win the Tour again therefor IMO everyone else on UAE is just a distraction. Pog's in it for the win himself. So Rog should simply ignore his UAE teammates. And he will, IMO.
It appears that job (of marking Pogi) is going to start day 1. Here are the current odds for stage 1.

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I see his tactical situation as very simple tbh, i.e. mark Pog until the end of week 3.

I think Rog will live or die in this Tour based on what Pog does, i.e. the ball is in his court. I doubt Rog will start chasing wheels all over the road. If Almeida goes up the road, Vlasov can cover. If Yates goes, Hindley should go etc.

But there's one back wheel Rog should be glued to & that's Pog's. Unless Vingegaard demonstrates he's at the required level, I don't see that situation changing much (although as always maybe some opportunism could be achieved with an echelon or something).

Follow the yellow brick road... i.e. Pog's wheel. And if Pog gives the yellow jersey to one of his teammates, call his bluff. We all know Pog will do everything to win the Tour again therefor IMO everyone else on UAE is just a distraction. Pog's in it for the win himself. So Rog should simply ignore his UAE teammates. And he will, IMO.
Following Pog is the prime strategy but at some point Roglic needs time. UAE could go old school Sky/Jumbo and just set tempo on every strategic climb and they have the horsepower to do it. If things thin out on a climb and UAE presence is down to Pog, one other guy; then the hyenas must go to work. Jorgenson could be the random aide that Roglic needs. Hell, in the right non-classic alpine setting it could be Remco.
The first week should sort out every team's priorities no matter how optimistic they may be.
 
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Following Pog is the prime strategy but at some point Roglic needs time. UAE could go old school Sky/Jumbo and just set tempo on every strategic climb and they have the horsepower to do it. If things thin out on a climb and UAE presence is down to Pog, one other guy; then the hyenas must go to work. Jorgenson could be the random aide that Roglic needs. Hell, in the right non-classic alpine setting it could be Remco.
The first week should sort out every team's priorities no matter how optimistic they may be.

The only way I see Rog getting adventurous is if he needs to gain serious time. The way I see it, every day Rog holds Pog's wheel it'll be a victory in & of itself. Starting on Saturday. The moments when Pog launches it throughout the Tour (which he will... a lot) will be high stress situations, i.e. with a loaded gun aimed at Rog in the form of "if you can't hold this wheel, you lose the Tour".

So I don't think it's a stretch to say Rog's path to victory features two main components in a very basic strategy:

- hold Pog's wheel in the mountains
- beat Pog in the ITT's (namely the last one).

Failure to achieve either will pretty much guarantee a failure in GC, i.e. with every other path to victory becoming & more & more fantastical i.e. like relying on unpredictable race moments or tactical coups to get a lead against a stronger rider. Aka the sort of stuff which is very difficult to plan for.
 
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