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He also hinted he would love to race Giro next year, because stage goes through both Gorica towns (Italy - Slovenia) and atmosphere should be crazy but he also jokingly acknowledged Pogačar is way better than anyone right now and Primož will pick races without Teddy being there.

I lol'd at that one earlier when I saw it. It's hilarious. Typical Rogla wit.

All these other riders and teams all seem to say stuff like "we need to get better to compete with Pog, that's the goal" etc. (I paraphrase) but not Rog. He's basically "no way, I'll race whatever Pog isn't racing".

Smart.. and only half joking as well, I think.
 
Dno how you can sit with a straight face and call 2023 vastly superior. 2023 Giro was the dirt worst GT I have watched since 2012
By virtue of being races to begin with.

Mostly the 2023 Giro only had a trash 2nd week, and then somehow everyone fell over to themselves repeating on and on how *** that race was. Evenepoel went out with COVID, TGH crashed out, and then after Crans Montana controversially got shortened and delivered nothing everyone was already completely prejudiced deciding it was the worst thing ever.

2024 meanwhile had nothing. Nothing that happeend that Pogacar didn't allow, and Pogacar at no point didn't do any particularly long moves himself because it still had to fit within the training regimen. The race for the rest of the top 10 was diabolical as well, and breakaway action was limited because Pogacar had to win 6 stages minimum.
 
Ah yes, like in 2023? 2022?

We need riders actually willing and capable to make the race.
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Dno how you can sit with a straight face and call 2023 vastly superior. 2023 Giro was the dirt worst GT I have watched since 2012
I can't tell for sure, but I lost interest in the giro after 7-8 stages this year. Don't think that was the case in 2023.
 
BTW if Pog isn't doing the Giro next year, it means he's doing a TdF + Vuelta season. From that point onwards it makes sense for Rog to go Giro + Tour. With the 'dream' scenario of course being winning the Giro and then maybe scoring a stage win and good final GC in France (which let's face it is really just finishing the damned thing for the first time in 5 years).

By virtue of being races to begin with.

Correct. We've seen in recent months how the fallacy of "long range attacks and big time gaps = super entertainment" was exactly that, aka a fallacy. It's for fanboys and fanboys only. Real entertainment in bike racing comes from the suspense.
 
And he goes stage hunting in the Tour? I would like to see him targetting the WC however Pogi will be there and he should be Slovenia's sole leader.
I'd presume GC in the Tour as well. Even if it's not for a win. Especially if the first 11 days are gonna be as easy as it seems, I don't think it's impossible to do a good Tour.

WC I can then see him focus on the ITT instead of the road race.
 
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I'd presume GC in the Tour as well. Even if it's not for a win. Especially if the first 11 days are gonna be as easy as it seems, I don't think it's impossible to do a good Tour.

WC I can then see him focus on the ITT instead of the road race.
But I don't think he can top3 the Tour after doing the Giro. And a top5 or top10 add nothing to his palmares. It would be better if he took an easy and calm approach to the Tour and lose time on purpose to target a stage win later. If he is riding for GC, he will not win a stage.
 
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Real entertainment in bike racing comes from the suspense.
So not racing then and just everyone wait untill 200 meter and sprint sounds like the biggest snooze fest for me. No thanks. The giro 2023 proved that and so did the interest it draw. Lets face it nightmare scenario for most, panache is the way for most people who likes cycling I believe if you dont bother about who wins.
 
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But I don't think he can top3 the Tour after doing the Giro. And a top5 or top10 add nothing to his palmares. It would be better if he took an easy and calm approach to the Tour and lose time on purpose to target a stage win later. If he is riding for GC, he will not win a stage.
Doesn't really matter that much either. Doesn't look like the race will be good for stages either, and UAE mows down every breakaway anyway
 
Has Roglic ever really spoken about Tour de Suisse and completion of the seven one-weekers as a particular goal?

That complete set and possible sole holder of the Vuelta wins record should be the goals now.

Has he spoken about how long he envisages staying on? His contract has (per PCS) one more year: one more after that?
He did talk about winning Suisse yes.
 
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Has Roglic ever really spoken about Tour de Suisse and completion of the seven one-weekers as a particular goal?

That complete set and possible sole holder of the Vuelta wins record should be the goals now.

Has he spoken about how long he envisages staying on? His contract has (per PCS) one more year: one more after that?
Baring serious injuries, i think he's going to race for couple years at least.
 
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So not racing then and just everyone wait untill 200 meter and sprint sounds like the biggest snooze fest for me. No thanks. The giro 2023 proved that and so did the interest it draw. Lets face it nightmare scenario for most, panache is the way for most people who likes cycling I believe if you dont bother about who wins.

Between you and me... 'most people who like cycling' do so for chauvinistic reasons. Aka the reason people turn their tv on is to support riders from their own countries. I mean sorry for the nihilistic reality check here... but 'panache' is a point of view. Then the other fact is of course serial winners acquiring a very large fanboy following - like we see in tennis (and now cycling with Pog). But 'proper' cycling IMO has to always be about the difficulty of the sport and the little details which make it suspenseful, aka the teamwork, the route profiles, how each rider does on various types of profiles, the weather etc.

Has Roglic ever really spoken about Tour de Suisse and completion of the seven one-weekers as a particular goal?

That complete set and possible sole holder of the Vuelta wins record should be the goals now.

I think the 'real' goal should be adding another GT to his palmarès. Whether it's the Giro or the Vuelta, it doesn't really matter. 5 is already incredible.
 
Ah yes, like in 2023? 2022?

We need riders actually willing and capable to make the race.
This year has been the worst Giro of my lifetime. Making the race? What a ***. Monte Lussari stage was more interesting than this entire Giro.

As for Giro he would probably go only if Pog+Vinge arent' there otherwise he would focus on Suisse + Tour. A podium in Giro does nothing for him tbh. Fleche and Suisse are the two things left for him to win that suit him.
 
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