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Ezequiel Mosquera

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What is your opinion about him? He now finishes in the Top-10 for the 4th time in a row at the Vuelta. He even gets better the older he gets (like Armstrong ;)), with a great chance to win (i expect a "collusion" between the spanish riders, so Nibali will have a very very hard time Saturday). Yet, no big Pro-Tour-Team has ever signed him. I think they didn´t/don´t sign him because his bloodpassport might be suspicious. I am also surprised that you can buy EPO without a prescription in spain (see Sentjens-Case). That makes it even more suspicious.
 
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My opinion is that he's done well after hooking up with Alvaro Pino. Pino was a DS for Kelme and got the boot from Phonak when Rihs was ostensibly cleaning that team up.
 
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FoxxyBrown1111 said:
[...]I am also surprised that you can buy EPO without a prescription in spain (see Sentjens-Case).

You can get EPO without a prescription in pretty much any country around the world. It's called the "black market".

Now, if you walk into a pharmacy in Spain, or any other country, and ask them to give you EPO, you will be told to get a prescription first.

As far as Mosquera being 100% clean or not... I'd say not.
 
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I´d rather buy real Epo in a pharmacy then on the black market (you might die if you do so). So i am still surprised Sentjens got it in spain without prescription.

Anyway, back to Mosquera. Does someone know why he isn´t signed by the big teams?
 
Eze has been consistent in his performances & since his appearances are limited, he's got more time to recuperate, train & prepare for them.

as far as "not having Bio-passport" goes----please--- with or without it, they know how to beat the tests and that's what matters...;)
 
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At least the passport seems to work a little. Climbers have a chance again, timetrailers get droped in the mountains (as it should be). W/kg is way down compared to years like 2005 etc.
And also teams don´t sign certain riders with suspicious passports. We also shall not forget Mosquera was already 33 when finishing in the Top-10 for the first time (2007). Something might be much "more wrong" with him, than with other (micro) doped riders.
 
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roundabout said:
Still, he could potentially be the oldest grand tour since almost forever and 30 years from now people looking at the recors books will be going wtf?.

He might even be the oldest ever to win his first GT. May some "mad professor" can come up with the stats?

I think Armstrong was the oldest 1st time winner.
 
FoxxyBrown1111 said:
What is your opinion about him? He now finishes in the Top-10 for the 4th time in a row at the Vuelta. He even gets better the older he gets (like Armstrong ;)), with a great chance to win (i expect a "collusion" between the spanish riders, so Nibali will have a very very hard time Saturday). Yet, no big Pro-Tour-Team has ever signed him. I think they didn´t/don´t sign him because his bloodpassport might be suspicious. I am also surprised that you can buy EPO without a prescription in spain (see Sentjens-Case). That makes it even more suspicious.

I think Mosquera does dope in as far as i believe much of the peloton is still doping. Not as much as 5 years ago perhaps, but still. However, his being in a smaller team has nothing to do with doping. Vaconsolei had no problem signing one of the most controversial dopers Ricco. Lampre signed Scarponi. Scarponi is in many ways a similar level rider to Mosquera. They were both on smaller teams for and eventually someone snatches them (well im assuming someone will snatch Eze)
 
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FoxxyBrown1111 said:
I think Armstrong was the oldest 1st time winner.
Sastre and Vino both won their first GT being 33. (And Mosquera is not that much older than that, I don't think if he wins, it will be so confusing for next generations ;))
 
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He might even be the oldest ever to win his first GT. May some "mad professor" can come up with the stats?

I think Armstrong was the oldest 1st time winner.

Of the top of my head Vino was 33 when he won his first and only in 06. Armstrong was 28 when he won his first.

Also Floyd was 31 and Rasmussen 33 ;)
 
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The big difference with Scarponi and Ricco is, they were/are much younger than Mosquera. And both were caught. So both might "only" mico-dope now...

To me Mosquera is the 2nd most suspicious rider of the season. I´d be surprised if he signs with moviestar.
 
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So all those old winners (Sastre, Vino, Rasmussen who i count as winner of the tour in 2007) came at the high point of Blood-Doping. So let´s hope Nibali and Kreuziger can hold back the wall of attacking spanish riders on saturday. If i can´t see a clean winner, at least i am looking for a somewhat clean talented rider (Nibali).
 
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The big difference with Scarponi and Ricco is, they were/are much younger than Mosquera. And both were caught. So both might "only" mico-dope now...

To me Mosquera is the 2nd most suspicious rider of the season. I´d be surprised if he signs with moviestar.

Why would it be suspicious.

08 he lost to Contador (one of the greats) Levi (back then a good climber), Sastre (gt specialist)
09 he lost to Valverde ( One of greats) , Samu (olympic champion) , Evans (top quality climber) Basso (top quality climber)

This year (considering Menchov and Sastre arent on top form) he had Anton (top quality climber) and Nibali ( prospect). He was losing badly to Anton and is atm behind Nibali. This is consistent with what he has done last 2 years. The field has been weaker so instead of finishing 4th he finishes higher.

My logic is that if in 09 you didnt have Valverde, Samu, Evans or Basso he would have won. Well here we are.
 
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So all those old winners (Sastre, Vino, Rasmussen who i count as winner of the tour in 2007) came at the high point of Blood-Doping. So let´s hope Nibali and Kreuziger can hold back the wall of attacking spanish riders on saturday. If i can´t see a clean winner, at least i am looking for a somewhat clean talented rider (Nibali).

You think Mosquera is more suspicious than Nibali?

Nibali comes from the team where the 2 leaders are Basso and Pellizoti.

More over he has links to Dr Ferrari.

And his performance has jumped tremendously this year. Id say he is more suspicious than Mosquera.
 
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The big difference with Scarponi and Ricco is, they were/are much younger than Mosquera. And both were caught. So both might "only" mico-dope now...

To me Mosquera is the 2nd most suspicious rider of the season. I´d be surprised if he signs with moviestar.


Oh and out of interest who do you see as most suspicios? Schleck? Velits? Nibali? Cancellara?

All good choices.
 
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I might be wrong, but i go with Lemond ("Talent shows early"). So i am less doubtful with riders like Peter Velits, Kreuziger, Nibali, Andy Schleck, Kruijswick etc. etc.

Pellizottl was caught, Basso too.

So what makes me suspicious about Mosquera is his age, that he never got a contract with a pro tour team and that he never "shined" outside of spain. Nibali didn´t perform that bad since he turned pro. Plus he raced good at the Tour de Frances. A country with the most strict anti doping law.

My opinion :)
 
Mosquera came a bit out of nowhere in 2007.

I think he also rode for Comunidad Valenciana (Kelme) and raced for years on Portuguese teams.

And of course the already mentioned Alvaro Pino.

Good reasons to consider him suspect even though he confirmed his 2007 form every year since.
 
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I´d like to see how he would do at the TdF. If he signs with moviestar and finishes in the Top-20, i´d be less suspicious.

I dont think hed have much chance at the tour. Purito only came 7th. There arent too many mtfs and when there are they arent contested much.

i can see where your coming from with the late bloomer theory. I have always considered that the reason so many endurance athletes these days perform well into their 30s is doping. see Haille and co. He didnt even try the marathon till he was in his 30s and now is multi time world record holder. Also does this mean Jens dopes?

one thing in defense of Mosquera is that he simply started late. He didnt turn pro till he was Nibalis current age. Then it took a few years to learn a few tricks but came top 10 in his first Vuelta an has maintained form since.
 
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The Hitch said:
You think Mosquera is more suspicious than Nibali?

Nibali comes from the team where the 2 leaders are Basso and Pellizoti.

More over he has links to Dr Ferrari.

And his performance has jumped tremendously this year. Id say he is more suspicious than Mosquera.

No it hasn't. He was 7th in the Tour last year. And the year before that 19th in the Tour and 11th in the Giro. He's only 25. Looks like natural progression to me.