Ferrari's Pandora Box is Partly Ajar

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Velodude said:
This is being discussed extensively in a thread you have previously contributed to entitled "Money Laundering and Doping in Italy." List of all riders and team management involved in the latest Ferrari allegations can be found here:

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=15363&page=21

The fake contracts should be the downfall of team Astana. They have been paying riders under contracts that are not registered with the UCI, and thus avoiding the UCI financial surety requirements as well as various countries' taxes. Through the fake contracts, Astana has been making payments directly to Raimondo Scimone's sports management company, whence the money made its way to Switzerland, and from there across the border to Italy to Dr. Ferrari.

If the UCI will not rescind Astana's license for obvious involvement in systematic team doping, they should at least do so for defrauding the UCI itself. I know they don't care about doping, but they do care about $$$$.
 
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"Liquigas, Lampre, Colnago, Geox, Androni, Katusha, Quick Step, CNF-Inox, Farnese Vini, Acqua&Sapone, Astana, RadioShack, Vacansoleil, ISD, CSF, LPR, Diquigiovanni, Tinkoff, Rabobank, Gerolsteiner and Milram"
riders under investigation....no Sky??? Oh well, never mind, lets not let the facts get in the way of a good story
 

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Unsurprising. It wouldn't have been a miracle if Ferrari had been an employee of UCI anti-doping department himself.
 
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Love the Scenery said:
This is being discussed extensively in a thread you have previously contributed to entitled "Money Laundering and Doping in Italy." List of all riders and team management involved in the latest Ferrari allegations can be found here:

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=15363&page=21

The fake contracts should be the downfall of team Astana. They have been paying riders under contracts that are not registered with the UCI, and thus avoiding the UCI financial surety requirements as well as various countries' taxes. Through the fake contracts, Astana has been making payments directly to Raimondo Scimone's sports management company, whence the money made its way to Switzerland, and from there across the border to Italy to Dr. Ferrari.

If the UCI will not rescind Astana's license for obvious involvement in systematic team doping, they should at least do so for defrauding the UCI itself. I know they don't care about doping, but they do care about $$$$.
Thanks. I knew there was an old thread but thought this media release of 18 of this month would have been more topical news.
 
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airstream said:
Unsurprising. It wouldn't have been a miracle if Ferrari had been an employee of UCI anti-doping department himself.
Wel he did work for the lab that developed the EPO test..
 
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Love the Scenery said:
This is being discussed extensively in a thread you have previously contributed to entitled "Money Laundering and Doping in Italy." List of all riders and team management involved in the latest Ferrari allegations can be found here:

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=15363&page=21

The fake contracts should be the downfall of team Astana. They have been paying riders under contracts that are not registered with the UCI, and thus avoiding the UCI financial surety requirements as well as various countries' taxes. Through the fake contracts, Astana has been making payments directly to Raimondo Scimone's sports management company, whence the money made its way to Switzerland, and from there across the border to Italy to Dr. Ferrari.

If the UCI will not rescind Astana's license for obvious involvement in systematic team doping, they should at least do so for defrauding the UCI itself. I know they don't care about doping, but they do care about $$$$.
"fake" contracts are nothing new in cycling. every team basically pays riders under the radar. it's as old as cycling itself. do you actually believe a team like movistar have 8 million eurod budget? or liquigas?

if astana can be prooven to have extensive team doping (which they will never be able to proove with what we know now) then I doubt much is gonna happen except a warning. the uci isn't losing money on this either. it's nations losing money, like italy.
 
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"In truth virtually all the money - write the investigators - was received in cash in Italy and Switzerland so as to avoid paying taxes in the two countries".

Bags of cash.....where have we heard that before....
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
"fake" contracts are nothing new in cycling. every team basically pays riders under the radar. it's as old as cycling itself. do you actually believe a team like movistar have 8 million eurod budget? or liquigas?
What I believe is that there exists specific information demonstrating that Astana has been playing the UCI for fools, and that the under-the-table Astana payments make their way to Ferrari and across the border to Italy in exchange for PEDs.

If you have similar evidence for other teams, post it.
 
Ryo Hazuki said:
if astana can be prooven to have extensive team doping (which they will never be able to proove with what we know now) then I doubt much is gonna happen except a warning. the uci isn't losing money on this either. it's nations losing money, like italy.
In the current climate, if something like that was proven there's no way the UCI could afford to let it slip.
 
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hrotha said:
He was also the first lawyer Contador hired for his clen case.
The background of this instruction by Contador to this particular lawyer, Rocco Taminelli, to defend him may be found in the article

According to the investigators they created a transnational ring based in Italy that made money from doping, offering their clients a "complete package of services" ranging from advice concerning contracts, training and medication, to legal support when testing positive in drugs tests or in trials for doping......
 
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hrotha said:
In the current climate, if something like that was proven there's no way the UCI could afford to let it slip.
Astana is going down. Read the article again. According to Gazzetta, the ENTIRE ASTANA squad paid its riders' salaries to T&F Sport Management, which is a money laundering front for the Ferrari dope system. The Italian prosecutors have traced the flow of money through T&F Management to Swiss bank accounts--which they could never have done unless the Swiss authorities were convinced that the money resulted from/went to illegal activities. From there it was withdrawn and paid to the Ferrari organization in cash.

Other teams paid riders a portion of their "image rights" to T&F Management, e.g. Scarponi; but Astana apparently funneled all its money directly into a money laundering organization.

Ferrari might sneak out of this because, as he says, all he does is go around in a camper van and conduct tests, or at least he is confident that he is not directly implicated in illegal activities. But his organization, including his son, sports agent Scimone, and the two bankers are going down for money laundering. There is no way the UCI can allow team Astana to continue operating. Before October 10th they could have ignored it, but not now.
 
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Velodude said:
The above article implicates a Swiss lawyer, Rocco Taminelli.

Taminelli has held various UCI positions over the years and is currently on the UCI Disciplinary Commission.
Another one of Pat's (now extensive) cycling family.

Time someone makes a network map starting with Pat/UCI. Dim, Caruut, anyone else, any spare time and interest?
 
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