Forum, defined.

[wyzowl]

Definition of forum

noun (plural forums)

1a place, meeting, or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged:it will be a forum for consumers to exchange their views on medical research

•
an Internet site where users can post comments about a particular issue or topic and reply to other users' postings; a message board.

*NOTE: No where in this definition does it say to attack those who's views differ from yours. Forum members should discus the topic at hand and avoid vitriolic diatribes concerning the one posting the opinions. Progress can only be made when intelligent convincing arguments are brought forth CONCERNING THE TOPIC.

 

[darwin553]

I wholeheartedly agree.

 

[Afrank]

1. Wrong section of the Forum

2. Haven't been on the forum much today due to my own races, but if your talking about your posts in the threads you started, then no one was "attacking your views." People just disagreed with your views. So they said so.

 

[wyzowl]

Attack

1. Wrong section of the Forum

2. Haven't been on the forum much today due to my own races, but if your talking about your posts in the threads you started, then no one was "attacking your views." People just disagreed with your views. So they said so.

Wrong. I was called names, accused of being ignorant, and personally vilified. Few made any mention of actually apposing my comments.

 

[SetonHallPirate]

Wrong. I was called names, accused of being ignorant, and personally vilified. Few made any mention of actually apposing my comments.

I just read through all three of your threads aside from this one, and I could find exactly two posts attacking you. (BTW, I personally think attacking views is fine, but not attacking the person.) One was the competition for "most arrogant poster", and the other was the one suggesting we "not feed a troll". Everything else was either disputing a claim of a fact by you, or arguing your actual point. I don't recall you being called any specific name anywhere.

Trust me, and take it from somebody who often comes off as arrogant (for example, the first paragraph of this post)...it isn't easy sometimes to not come off as arrogant, and sometimes the more you try not to be arrogant, the more arrogant you come off as. I'm guilty myself sometimes!

 

[laziali]

Toughen up princess. If you can suffer your way to 5 State cycling championships then you can handle this forum.

 

[wyzowl]

Names

I just read through all three of your threads aside from this one, and I could find exactly two posts attacking you. (BTW, I personally think attacking views is fine, but not attacking the person.) One was the competition for "most arrogant poster", and the other was the one suggesting we "not feed a troll". Everything else was either disputing a claim of a fact by you, or arguing your actual point. I don't recall you being called any specific name anywhere.

Trust me, and take it from somebody who often comes off as arrogant (for example, the first paragraph of this post)...it isn't easy sometimes to not come off as arrogant, and sometimes the more you try not to be arrogant, the more arrogant you come off as. I'm guilty myself sometimes!

You haven't helped the case at all. You are claiming that I am too dumb to even recognize when I am being slammed. I resign from these forums. You third grade mentality members aren't worth the effort to raise a constructive discussion.

 

[ElChingon]

Since you insist:

discussion

dis·cus·sion
[dih-skuhsh-uhn]
noun
an act or instance of discussing; consideration or examination by argument, comment, etc., especially to explore solutions; informal debate.
Origin:
1300–50; Middle English < Anglo-French < Late Latin discussiōn- (stem of discussiō) inquiry, examination, Latin: a shaking. See discuss, -ion

 

[ElChingon]

Comments

com·ment
[kom-ent]
noun
1. a remark, observation, or criticism: a comment about the weather.
2. gossip; talk: His frequent absences gave rise to comment.
3. a criticism or interpretation, often by implication or suggestion: The play is a comment on modern society.
4. a note in explanation, expansion, or criticism of a passage in a book, article, or the like; annotation.
5. explanatory or critical matter added to a text.

 

[ElChingon]

Do we really need to go on?

 

[darwin553]

Do we really need to go on?

Yes we do - the OP is right. Members should discuss topics without personally attacking other members - it really isn't that hard. The problem is that it seems that some members appear to not have the ability to control their massive egos.

 

[laziali]

Yes we do - the OP is right. Members should discuss topics without personally attacking other members - it really isn't that hard. The problem is that it seems that some members appear to not have the ability to control their massive egos.

And yet you just sarcastically called a poster "champ" in another thread. Hypocrisy much??? As I said to the OP, harden up princess.

 

[darwin553]

And yet you just sarcastically called a poster "champ" in another thread. Hypocrisy much??? As I said to the OP, harden up princess.

How is calling a person a 'champ' personally derogatory? Calling a person a 'clown' on the other hand...

 

[laziali]

How is calling a person a 'champ' personally derogatory? Calling a person a 'clown' on the other hand...

I think you need to change you name to darwinawards. Far more apt.

 

[Ripper]

Oh harden the f@ck up. You were hardly hung out to dry and vilified. Some folks do get attacked way to severely, but you do not seem to be too bad off.

Go post some pro-Froome drivel in the clinic and see what it's like!

 

[darwin553]

I think you need to change you name to darwinawards. Far more apt.

See now that is personal abuse...

 

[SetonHallPirate]

You haven't helped the case at all. You are claiming that I am too dumb to even recognize when I am being slammed. I resign from these forums. You third grade mentality members aren't worth the effort to raise a constructive discussion.

Wow...what did I start now?

 

[taiwan]

The OP started 3 threads in one day, 2 of which were almost identical. This was immediately after registering. Then all the Ohio State Champion claims. I just thought this was a troll.

 

[SetonHallPirate]

The OP started 3 threads in one day, 2 of which were almost identical. This was immediately after registering. Then all the Ohio state champion claims. I just thought this was a troll.

Oh, I saw them...but I don't recall where I called him "dumb".

 

[Afrank]

You haven't helped the case at all. You are claiming that I am too dumb to even recognize when I am being slammed. I resign from these forums. You third grade mentality members aren't worth the effort to raise a constructive discussion.

So it's okay for you to insult people, but no one can say anything in opposition to what you wright.

 

[hiero2]

I think you need to change you name to darwinawards. Far more apt.

See now that is personal abuse...

Yes, it is. But I think you two are big boys now, so I won't send anyone to detention hall.

This is a topic that has come up more than once since I've been modding. I'll say again here what I have said elsewhere. This is a public place, for public discussion, which can be just as free-wheeling as you would find there. It has been likened to a pub/bar discussion, and sometimes it even includes the alcohol fuel!

At the point that, in a bar, I would say, "take it outside, boys" I also draw my modding line. Or try to. The point is to keep it civil, not rational.

Keep in mind I don't read everything, nor do the other mods. We can't possibly. So if something is unread, and unreported, or already old by the time we get there, well - that should be self explanatory. Just because it didn't get modded doesn't make it right. We do what we can.

Having said that, I have seen a lot of thin skins and oversensitivity at times. Sometimes I think it is a personality thing - there are some posters that other posters just react to. For instance, a poster who, with great frequency, posts very mild sarcastic, or pointed comments - can get the rep with some other posters as a troll. But it seems to me that, given the mildness and lightheartedness of the "troll's" posts (and the fact that the posts are generally well-mannered and polite) - that it is those who react who just need to htfu.

But, like I said, when it gets to the point I have to think "take it outside" - I will enforce consequences.

 

[Fatclimber]

....It has been likened to a pub/bar discussion, and sometimes it even includes the alcohol fuel!

....

I can confirm this! Cheers!

 

[Zam_Olyas]

You are lucky that Ryo isnt here

 

[mewmewmew13]

Yes we do - the OP is right. Members should discuss topics without personally attacking other members - it really isn't that hard. The problem is that it seems that some members appear to not have the ability to control their massive egos.

worth a repeat

 

[TheBean]

Owl,

This forum has plenty of people who like to exchange views in a somewhat dignified manner.

There are others who like to be consistently sarcastic, call names, talk poorly about other poster's mothers, or even suggest that they wish terrible things are deserved by a poster in this life or the next.

Best bet is to ignore the negativity and try to have some fun with it all, maybe even learn a thing or two.

By complaining about the behaviors of some of the kooks on here, all you are doing is reinforcing their behavior.