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Versus and their TDF team are such obnoxious shills for Lance...how the hell does Frankie keep his job as "color" man ?

Apologies if this has already been beaten to death.
 
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Mainerider said:
Versus and their TDF team are such obnoxious shills for Lance...how the hell does Frankie keep his job as "color" man ?

Apologies if this has already been beaten to death.

Because Armstrong lets it happen. It gives Armstrong credibility. After getting him fired from Toyota United, I'm sure Andreau realized Lance's pull (as if he didn't already).

The real question is "how complicit is Andrea in the whole thing" when he just stands there and asks Lance puffball questions?

I realize a guy has to make a living, but at what cost?
 
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131313 said:
Because Armstrong lets it happen. It gives Armstrong credibility. After getting him fired from Toyota United, I'm sure Andreau realized Lance's pull (as if he didn't already).

The real question is "how complicit is Andrea in the whole thing" when he just stands there and asks Lance puffball questions?

I realize a guy has to make a living, but at what cost?

good post.

ed rader
 
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131313 said:
Because Armstrong lets it happen. It gives Armstrong credibility. After getting him fired from Toyota United, I'm sure Andreau realized Lance's pull (as if he didn't already).

The real question is "how complicit is Andrea in the whole thing" when he just stands there and asks Lance puffball questions?

I realize a guy has to make a living, but at what cost?

Frankie has a life to live and no obligation to betray himself for anything other than himself...if that makes sense.

There are rules, regulations and referees out there that have the call and authority to maintain 'justice'. It ain't Frankie's job.
 
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Black-Balled said:
Frankie has a life to live and no obligation to betray himself for anything other than himself...if that makes sense.

Interesting choice of words. If he were to act differently, I'd hardly consider it a betrayal. I'd consider his current actions more of a betrayal, but that's just my opinion on the matter. Ultimately we agree though, it's his choice. It's my choice not to respect him for it, though.

Black-Balled said:
There are rules, regulations and referees out there that have the call and authority to maintain 'justice'. It ain't Frankie's job.

That's a convenient position, and it falls into line with the theory that "it's only cheating if you get caught". Personally I don't see it that way.

I don't think FA has an obligation to do anything differently. However, by just playing along my view of him is that he's just part of the problem. I understand that others feel differently, but that's my opinion.
 
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Moose McKnuckles said:
I can't believe people are talking about Frankie when Sherwen and Liggett, two of the biggest Lance salad-tossers, are gorging themselves on Lance's dingleberries daily on Versus. Talk about being part of the problem.

Neither Sherwin nor Ligget were teammates and friends of Armstrong. I wouldn't expect them to have anywhere near the direct knowledge that Andreau may have.
 
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To go back to the OP's subject. While I understand that Andreu is following network orders to interview Armstrong and keep it 'soft', I must admit that I am disappointed that he is doing it.
 
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Neither Sherwin nor Ligget were teammates and friends of Armstrong. I wouldn't expect them to have anywhere near the direct knowledge that Andreau may have.

Sherwen was the Motorola PR guy.

Frankie's making a living, I don't begrudge him that. Everybody that does any corporate job has to toe the line in some way. Obviously last year Armstrong picked Frankie to do interviews as a kind of FU to Betsy. Really I think it just exposed Lance once again as a petty, manipulating a-hole to anybody actually paying attention. Like when he let his hair grow last year after the French took a a hair sample or when he told the heckler to say it to his face this year. More evidence of the growing upper hand his critics are gaining on him.
 
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The king of nothing.

Dead teammate with a massive head injury, fellow teammates with financial ruin and medical disasters from doping, divorce, partially abandoned kids, abandoned girlfriends with broken hearts, pimped out Trek bicycles, a win at all costs director, and now a nothing-to-lose snitch with all the inside dirt to put lord pedal a bike and sell a miracle and the beer to go with it and a failing business sponsor into a shame spiral. The millions of dollars and thousands of die hard fans and fantasy of cheating death is now settling into the twilight of all sports careers. Physiology and aging come to all human flesh. Human glory is fleeting. Any person is not God: physical discipline and performance enhancing whatever only lasts for a season and then fades. All this money and business will ebb from Armstrong's grasp, which is a drug that loses its potency. His legacy is like any other human: his time has come and is now going. Watching him bolt from his interview and his dismissal of his more powerful and enjoyable and younger and fresher rivals has sealed his fate, just as it does with all men. Only wisdom and humility can replace the vigor of youth. Only love is as strong as death. I hope he finds it as a replacement for selfish ambition.
 
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I think its interesting to read all of these bash Lance posts when I would bet that none of you know him personally and really have no basis for your opinions other than from second hand information.
 
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Mainerider said:
Versus and their TDF team are such obnoxious shills for Lance...how the hell does Frankie keep his job as "color" man ?

Because if he did a good job, he'd stand out terribly among the whole Versus crew. Seriously, could they be doing a worse job of covering the Tour? I watched Stage 3 at a friend's house thinking that with so much on-the-road drama sure to unfold, Versus might actually show some live cycling. Big mistake-- nothing but fluff commentary, endless commercials, and cutaways to those stupid canned bio pieces while all Hell was breaking loose on the cobbles. "Hey, while we were away, look what happened-- Frank Schleck has crashed out!" If it had been my house, and my TV, I might have pulled an Elvis-- though the hard part would be deciding which of those useless tools to shoot!
 
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Epicycle said:
Frankie's making a living, I don't begrudge him that.
I agree. We know that asking hard questions is a quick way to the unemployment line. It's not a sellout IMO, he's just playing nice and giving the viewers what they want to see. Lance on camera and easy questions that new cycling fans can understand.

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live cycling[/I]. Big mistake-- nothing but fluff commentary, endless commercials, and cutaways to those stupid canned bio pieces while all Hell was breaking loose on the cobbles. "Hey, while we were away, look what happened-- Frank Schleck has crashed out!"

So true. I think that phrase "look at the important event that happened while we were away" is the one they use the most these days. Ok, besides trademarked phrases like A certain man from Texas™.
 
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Squares said:
Don't you mean Dingleberry, as in singular?

can someone please explain what these things are via pm, i really don't want to see the textual description, some of you are capable of vivid imagery, and as we all know, what has been seen cannot be unseen.
 
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i never watched versus and have no intention to (unless i'm in a bar where there would be no choice) but being a professional whilst doing your paid job and compromising own integrity when shyte hits the fan are entirely different things.

as far as i know, frankie knows the difference as no one else and there is no evidence to suspect him of 'selling out'.
 
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Square Pedaler said:
I think its interesting to read all of these bash Lance posts when I would bet that none of you know him personally and really have no basis for your opinions other than from second hand information.

Yes, and I would presume that none of us knew Stalin, or Kenneth Lay, or the person that robbed the gas station down the street either. That fact does not make the evils they have committed, large or small, any less true.

And I will presume that you do not believe that humans have ever been to the moon or that Barack Obama is president since you do not personally know Obama or any of the astronauts that have been there? All second hand info really.

Thanks for your post though, as it only took 1 from you to join Polock and wonderlance in the nether world, aka ignore list.