Froome or Leipheimer.

[dutchie]

Just getting ready to do a bet for le tour 2012 and wondering which of the above would be better value,Froome at 50/1 or Leipheimer at 100/1.

 

[hrotha]

Definitely Leipheimer.

 

[DominicDecoco]

Neither. At this point so many things can happen up until July.

 

[dlwssonic]

Neither, I just can't see them winning at all.

 

[hatcher]

Leipheimer.

e/w at 100/1 on that parcours is very good value for Leipheimer imo.

 

[Machu Picchu]

I wouldn't but if you really must then Levi is the better bet.

 

[cineteq]

Levi's a better bet, since he'll be the leader of OPQS whereas Froome will support Wiggins. Also Levi has a better track record. Still I think it'll be a waste of money anyway

 

[Escarabajo]

definitely leipheimer.

+1

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[Vino attacks everyone]

Levi, because he is awesome

 

[frenchfry]

Just getting ready to do a bet for le tour 2012 and wondering which of the above would be better value,Froome at 50/1 or Leipheimer at 100/1.

Depends on what the odds are on.

If it for who will crash out of the race, greats odds for Leipheimer.

If it is for who will be the leading wheel sucker, that would again be Leipheimer.

On the other hand, if it is for winning the TDF I would wait until the odds improve for both riders.

 

[hfer07]

neither....

but if you want to waste money, I'd go with Leecheimer.....

 

[Bavarianrider]

Just getting ready to do a bet for le tour 2012 and wondering which of the above would be better value,Froome at 50/1 or Leipheimer at 100/1.

Doesn't matter, both won't win. Spend your money on something which makes more fun.

 

[Gloin22]

Doesn't matter, both won't win. Spend your money on something which makes more fun.

Yeah. Bet for Martin FTW at Tour That's more fun

 

[maltiv]

Just getting ready to do a bet for le tour 2012 and wondering which of the above would be better value,Froome at 50/1 or Leipheimer at 100/1.

Wait until (if at all) either of them does something amazing, and put money on him instantly before the bookmakers update their odds

 

[The Hitch]

Doesn't that mean that if you choose the both ways option (or whatever it is called) you have levi podium for about 20-1 ?

But if it is just a random shot into thin air the case for froome is that he might just shock everyone and show unexpected tour winning form, something less likely from a 37 year oldtwo time gt podium finisher.

Ps if you had checked 2 months ago menchov was 80-1

 

[hatcher]

It does. 25/1 to finish on the podium (or 20/1 to finish in the top 4, depending on which bookmaker). Rather good value IMO.

 

[Caruut]

Doesn't that mean that if you choose the both ways option (or whatever it is called) you have levi podium for about 20-1 ?

But if it is just a random shot into thin air the case for froome is that he might just shock everyone and show unexpected tour winning form, something less likely from a 37 year oldtwo time gt podium finisher.

Ps if you had checked 2 months ago menchov was 80-1

People say that Froome will be working for Wiggins, but I'm not convinced he'll do all that much work for him. If Sky take Uran (which they should), they have a guy who should be able to stick with Wiggo in the mountains, thus absolving Froome of too much work on the slopes. On the flat, so long as Cav only has Eisel dedicated to him (and Cav's rumoured to be dropping out early to focus on the Olympics, leaving Eisel to work for Wiggo for the later stages), that leaves 4 more riders to look after him. For me, Sky's best option would be to try and maintain both GT contenders for as long as possible, and use them as a 1-2.

 

[veganrob]

Save your money. Bottle has no shot and Froome is riding for BW.

 

[cineteq]

For me, Sky's best option would be to try and maintain both GT contenders for as long as possible, and use them as a 1-2.

I bet Sky would agree with you, but will Brad agree?

Maybe all you have to do is rewind to Vuelta 2011 and look for what he said, or didn't say.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Doesn't matter, both won't win. Spend your money on something which makes more fun.

I am betting $100 on Kloden to finish in the top 10.

 

[karlboss]

I think our friend knows what odds are and hence what realistic chances there are for someone at 50 and 100:1.

 

[on3m@n@rmy]

Just getting ready to do a bet for le tour 2012 and wondering which of the above would be better value,Froome at 50/1 or Leipheimer at 100/1.

If I bet like it was a horse race, where I pick the horse I think will win and then bet him to show (take 3rd place), I'd go with Froome to reduce the risk.

 

[Caruut]

I bet Sky would agree with you, but will Brad agree?

Maybe all you have to do is rewind to Vuelta 2011 and look for what he said, or didn't say.

Well, I'm not particularly a Wiggins fan, and he's pretty big here, so that tends to make me a bit anti-Wiggins, so I'm going to be a bit biased, but..

I think at the Vuelta, Wiggins was expected to place higher right the way until the final stages, hence the annoyance. After that 2nd place, I think Chris Froome becomes a marked man (all the worse for him). I think Bradley's not half as strong as he thinks he is - the 4th place TdF in '09 the 3rd place in the Vuelta and the culture of sport in Britain have gone to his head.

We have a weird tendency to build our sportspeople up, talk about their chances of winning, barely think about the idea that they might not, and when they inevitably do fail, act like we knew that'd happen all along. It's a weird masochistic cycle. Add to that the fact that among the general public here, cycling is the Tour de France, and he's our first real contender in a generation, and he ends up believing his own hype.

He has a chance, no doubt. I think, though, that if he does win it, Froome being marked will be a big help at some point during his victory.

 

[FabulousCandelabra]

for the win??? what a waste of money!

 

[on3m@n@rmy]

not for the win ofc. for Froome to place higher than Leipheimer.