Garmin Cervelo Dismiss Matt White

[bianchigirl]

Dismissed for sending Trent Lowe to see Dr Del Moral - seems the team have a policy expressly forbidding this.

The fact that Del Moral was infamously a USPS doc & that Matt White has been linked to the new Aussie pro team (and is still under investigation by Aus Cycling as part of the Landis allegations) neither here nor there I imagine [/heavysarcasm]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/garmin-cervelo-dismiss-matt-white

 

[Roland Rat]

Matt White sacked after sending rider to del Moral

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/garmin-cervelo-dismiss-matt-white

Sacking him seems a little extreme if it was just a VO2 max test, there has to be more between White and del Moral.

If White does turn out to have gone rogue, him and Lim on the team looks very bad for 2009. Also, how much does Vaughters know about what goes on? Exactly how hands on is he?

 

[Ferminal]

Posted on this topic in the other forum, just amusing that super clean Garmin didn't dismiss him on the spot, but instead only used it to dismiss him when he revealed he was joining Green Edge.

Or did JV only find out about this in the last week?

As far as White is concerned - nothing surprising, White and Stephens will be a great team

 

[ansimi]

Doubt this one has much to do with doping. But they managed to get rid of White before he jumps ship and it might help them hold on to some of their young Australian talent when Green Edge tries to recruit them.

Of course, the Lowe incident is fishy but the timing is fishier.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Merged the two threads, as I expect a lot of hits today.

 

[BroDeal]

Sacking him seems a little extreme if it was just a VO2 max test, there has to be more between White and del Moral.

VO2 Max test? Yeah, right. Vaughters and White know very well what type of treatment Moral really gives.

 

[laziali]

Matty's pretty chilled about it. GE is taking up all his time and the amount of coin being kicked in would make JV weep with envy. Winners are grinners

 

[Sanitiser]

Doubt this one has much to do with doping. But they managed to get rid of White before he jumps ship and it might help them hold on to some of their young Australian talent when Green Edge tries to recruit them.

Of course, the Lowe incident is fishy but the timing is fishier.

I think it would be more likely so they could sully his name as a doping enabler if we're going down that track.

 

[thehog]

About bloody time. White is sooo dodge. I'm surprised he lasted this long.

Worries me that White got to others in the team for some special treatment.

Ohhhh if only we were back in the Cofidis days with Stuey. Hey I'd snort it!

 

[thehog]

Matty's pretty chilled about it. GE is taking up all his time and the amount of coin being kicked in would make JV weep with envy. Winners are grinners

Ha aha ha!

Yeah right. Green edge on the Aussie dollar bigger than Garmin-Cervelo?

No chance.

GC will be the biggest classics team this year.

 

[Roland Rat]

Re the timing, I wonder if it has come out because of that other investigation. del Moral would be one they would want to question - I wonder if he handed over all his records. Or Lowe was providing information on what del Moral did, with a view to his time as USPS doctor.

If Lowe had doped on Garmin, what does that say about their internal testing? Or does it add more to the questions about Don Catlin's position?

Either way, it's pretty clear what type of team Green Edge is going to be. All we need now is for Fat Pat to come along and say "Green Edge is exactly the type of team we need in cycling".

 

[BroDeal]

If Lowe had doped on Garmin, what does that say about their internal testing?

It could be the reason that they got rid of Lowe. Maybe he will fit in real nice with Zajicek.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Green Edge, I can't believe that you are going to hire this guy! Every time you hear these thingss you find it harder and harder to trust anyone!

 

[Runitout]

Green Edge, I can't believe that you are going to hire this guy! Every time you hear these thingss you find it harder and harder to trust anyone!

If you don't think White will fit in well with Stephens and Bannan, you haven't been paying attention.

Birds of a feather, etc etc

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Sacking him seems a little extreme if it was just a VO2 max test...

And Armstrong was being prepped by Ferrari to train for the hour record...

 

[BroDeal]

If you don't think White will fit in well with Stephens and Bannan, you haven't been paying attention.

Birds of a feather, etc etc

GreenEDGE, Australia's answer to Rock Racing.

 

[craig1985]

For those who are more in the know, does Lowe have a reputation for being a charger? If so, FMD, he was doing it wrong. I'm not joking, I would be asking for a freaking refund.

Does this make me cynical to think that is just a PR move from JV, or he is actually genuine here?

 

[Benotti69]

Re the timing, I wonder if it has come out because of that other investigation. del Moral would be one they would want to question - I wonder if he handed over all his records. Or Lowe was providing information on what del Moral did, with a view to his time as USPS doctor.

If Lowe had doped on Garmin, what does that say about their internal testing? Or does it add more to the questions about Don Catlin's position?

Either way, it's pretty clear what type of team Green Edge is going to be. All we need now is for Fat Pat to come along and say "Green Edge is exactly the type of team we need in cycling".

when the cheque clears

 

[auscyclefan94]

For those who are more in the know, does Lowe have a reputation for being a charger? If so, FMD, he was doing it wrong. I'm not joking, I would be asking for a freaking refund.

Does this make me cynical to think that is just a PR move from JV, or he is actually genuine here?

Lowe has been very ill. He had Epstein Barr virus amongst other things. I doubt that a doping program would of helped him get results.

I don't think it is a PR move on Vaughters behalf.

 

[laziali]

Ha aha ha!

Yeah right. Green edge on the Aussie dollar bigger than Garmin-Cervelo?

No chance.

GC will be the biggest classics team this year.

Hog, once again you are confusing rumour and fact. GE is backed for up to A$40m over two years (that's about the same as US$40m at the current exchange rate). How much does JV have to play with????

 

[BroDeal]

There is a chance that the timing of this could be because the Lowe-White-Moral link was about to be revealed by a source external to Slipstream. Vaughters might be trying to get ahead of the news and limit the damage.

Note that on the same day Dekker comes out and praises Vaughters for showing him the true path to enlightenment. Coincidence?

 

[Spare Tyre]

Ha aha ha!

Yeah right. Green edge on the Aussie dollar bigger than Garmin-Cervelo?

No chance.

GC will be the biggest classics team this year.

Aussie and US dollars have parity these days.

 

[BroDeal]

Hog, once again you are confusing rumour and fact. GE is backed for up to A$40m over two years (that's about the same as US$40m at the current exchange rate). How much does JV have to play with????

A world champion and a bunch of top tens in GTs. That should about cover it.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

There must be some mistake. Matt White speaks English.

 

[craig1985]

There is a chance that the timing of this could be because the Lowe-White-Moral link was about to be revealed by a source external to Slipstream. Vaughters might be trying to get ahead of the news and limit the damage.

Note that on the same day Dekker comes out and praises Vaughters for showing him the true path to enlightenment. Coincidence?

Where did you hear that, from another forum, or an associate of yours? Genuine question as well.