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Garmin's top GC men headed to Giro

Nov 11, 2010
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In an article here, Vandevelde said he was going back to the Giro in preparation for the Tour. He also mentioned that Ryder and Tommy D were also gonna be there for prep as well. Garmin's three men that have top 10'd in the Tour will be there. Dan Martin might not go as he wants to be fresh for the Tour (hint that he might actually make the cut next year). So is this a good direction for them? Can Vandevelde steer clear from crashing? Will they be fatigued by the time the Tour comes around because of the Giro? Your thoughts.
 
The article says nothing about Tommy D riding though? But yeah, in a normal (i.e not insanely hard) giro it's perfectly possible to use it as prep as long as one doesn't go for the GC.
 
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I must have misread the part where it said Vandevelde, Hesjedal, Danielson, and Farrar will all ride the Tour.

But Vandevelde says that it's BS to use a race like the Giro as prep and that he's going to try to get a good spot GC wise
 
Danielson i think should not go to the Giro as the route shall suit him at the TDF. Hopefully there would also be no crashes for him as well at the TDF. I do however like the idea of Ryder and CVV going to the Giro. Hesjedal is used to bad weather and it might give him a chance to find his 2010 form. ( Also he will be more of a challenger at races like AGR if he is peaking for the giro ). CVV can ably support and maybe go for a stage win in the ITT. Farrar can try get the sprint train going in preparation for the TDF and challenge Cv. The event also has JVs' favourite the TTT.

I'm happy that Dan Martin is going to the TDF. He could do a Vanendert ( by winning a stage and contesting for the Polka Dots ) whilst also having a good run at the Ardennes.

My idea for Garmins Giro team ( with the omittance of Danielson )
1. CVV
2. Hesjedal
3. Farrar
4. Fernandez/ Bauer
5. Millar ( ITT/ TTT )
6. Van Summeren
7. Hunter
8. Vanmarcke
9. Haas/ Haussler/ Zabriskie/ Rasmussen

TDF Team
1. CVV
2. Martin
3. Haussler
4. Farrar
5. Millar
6. Danielson
7. Hesjedal
8. Rasmussen
9. Hunter/ Zabriskie/ Talansky

Too many goals to allow them to have a full sprinting train in the TDF but oh well.
 
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greenedge said:
TDF Team
1. CVV
2. Martin
3. Haussler
4. Farrar
5. Millar
6. Danielson
7. Hesjedal
8. Rasmussen
9. Hunter/ Zabriskie/ Talansky

Number nine will surely go to Zabriskie if he remains healthy
 
greenedge said:
Danielson i think should not go to the Giro as the route shall suit him at the TDF. Hopefully there would also be no crashes for him as well at the TDF. I do however like the idea of Ryder and CVV going to the Giro. Hesjedal is used to bad weather and it might give him a chance to find his 2010 form. ( Also he will be more of a challenger at races like AGR if he is peaking for the giro ). CVV can ably support and maybe go for a stage win in the ITT. Farrar can try get the sprint train going in preparation for the TDF and challenge Cv. The event also has JVs' favourite the TTT.

I'm happy that Dan Martin is going to the TDF. He could do a Vanendert ( by winning a stage and contesting for the Polka Dots ) whilst also having a good run at the Ardennes.

My idea for Garmins Giro team ( with the omittance of Danielson )
1. CVV
2. Hesjedal
3. Farrar
4. Fernandez/ Bauer
5. Millar ( ITT/ TTT )
6. Van Summeren
7. Hunter
8. Vanmarcke
9. Haas/ Haussler/ Zabriskie/ Rasmussen

TDF Team
1. CVV
2. Martin
3. Haussler
4. Farrar
5. Millar
6. Danielson
7. Hesjedal
8. Rasmussen
9. Hunter/ Zabriskie/ Talansky

Too many goals to allow them to have a full sprinting train in the TDF but oh well.
CVV said that he will be riding the Giro as support for Hesjedal who is going for GC. Hesjedal will then support whoever ends up team leader at the Tour, like he ended up doing this year.
 
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If I were the Giro (or Vuelta) organization and discovered some riders were doing their race for Training! They'd never start in the first place, pack fill is no way to race if you're a contender.

Race or stay home.
 
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ElChingon said:
If I were the Giro (or Vuelta) organization and discovered some riders were doing their race for Training! They'd never start in the first place, pack fill is no way to race if you're a contender.

Race or stay home.

I agree +1
 
greenedge said:
My idea for Garmins Giro team ( with the omittance of Danielson )
1. CVV
2. Hesjedal
3. Farrar
4. Fernandez/ Bauer
5. Millar ( ITT/ TTT )
6. Van Summeren
7. Hunter
8. Vanmarcke
9. Haas/ Haussler/ Zabriskie/ Rasmussen

The way I understood it Rasmussen is pretty much secured a spot. Besides, won't Zabriskie be riding ToC?

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As for VDV starting the Giro. I'd say the big question is will he even make it to Italy?
After all; heard that last year, when both the Giro and the Tour started outside their respective countries he made it to neither Italy nor France...
 
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RedheadDane said:
The way I understood it Rasmussen is pretty much secured a spot. Besides, won't Zabriskie be riding ToC?

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He rode the ToC this year and the Tour.
 
Eric8-A said:
He rode the ToC this year and the Tour.

I know. I was talking about the Giro. Look:

greenedge said:
My idea for Garmins Giro team ( with the omittance of Danielson )
1. CVV
2. Hesjedal
3. Farrar
4. Fernandez/ Bauer
5. Millar ( ITT/ TTT )
6. Van Summeren
7. Hunter
8. Vanmarcke
9. Haas/ Haussler/ Zabriskie/ Rasmussen

You can't ride both the Giro and ToC in the same year.
 
Jan 2, 2010
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I think it's good that they're planning on mixing up some riders' schedules and I'm glad CVDV is feeling good about trying the Giro again. Danielson should probably stick with what worked for him last year. Dan Martin can't breathe well enough in May for the Giro and I think he'll be good for the Tour - not for GC but for stages. Le Mevel was really good at this year's Giro and he's French so he's sure to make either the Giro or Tour team.
 
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I'm sure Dan's going to stick to them smaller Italian races and the ToC for prep.

Danielson's having high hopes for himself next year. He's gonna do Langwaki to start early.

The only worry would be for Vandevelde to stay clear of crashes. Something that he always seems to attract.
 
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Eric8-A said:
The only worry would be for Vandevelde to stay clear of crashes. Something that he always seems to attract.

I don't think he crashes especially often but he seems to end up with a lot of serious fractures when he crashes...especially in the Giro. I think he might just be very breakable. I've seen Ryder have more crashes that look worse but he doesn't end up with broken bones.
 
Jun 16, 2009
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Good on Garmin. The Giro will have a much weaker field next year so I think it is smart of them to send those guys who could feature very highly in the general classification.
 
auscyclefan94 said:
Good on Garmin. The Giro will have a much weaker field next year so I think it is smart of them to send those guys who could feature very highly in the general classification.
Yes, a GT podium would be a milestone for Garmin, and with Hesjedal it's possible, if he's at his best. Good to see an American team send a viable GC candidate to the Giro.
 
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Don't know how Hesjedal gonna schedula everything.
I had expected him to target Tirreno-Adriatico or Paris Nice, the Eroica, Pays Basque and the Classics.
He said he would do so 2 months ago. Obviously he changed his plans, or he will be tired for the Giro.
 
Mar 31, 2010
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auscyclefan94 said:
Good on Garmin. The Giro will have a much weaker field next year so I think it is smart of them to send those guys who could feature very highly in the general classification.

there is no contador but other then that is just as strong. also I rate basso higher than nibali
 
Ryo Hazuki said:
there is no contador but other then that is just as strong. also I rate basso higher than nibali

way higher.
one of the biggest shocks of the year for me was basso's performance in le tour.i was hyping him to win it all the last year.but the thing is that wasn't the real basso,something pretty bad happened with his preparation,medical mostly after that crash on etna.
he will be strong as nails in may barring other accidents
 
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jens_attacks said:
way higher.
one of the biggest shocks of the year for me was basso's performance in le tour.i was hyping him to win it all the last year.but the thing is that wasn't the real basso,something pretty bad happened with his preparation,medical mostly after that crash on etna.
he will be strong as nails in may barring other accidents

He still has some eye problems from that crash IIRC.
 
I agree that it would be good if JV sent some of his best American (continental that is) riders to the Giro rather that the ToC. Ryder could potentially finish on the podium. I hope Danny Boy does the Tour next year. He'll lose time before the Alps and quite possibly have freedom to go for stage wins/the polka dot jersey.
 
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Eric8-A said:
But Vandevelde says that it's BS to use a race like the Giro as prep and that he's going to try to get a good spot GC wise

I'm glad to see CVV gunnin' for the Giro again (bang bang :D).
I hate the fact that the ToC is now overlapped with a Grand Tour of such magnitude. Obviously that can put pressure on teams with American sponsors to choose Cali over one of the greatest events that cycling has to offer.

I'd like to think that Vande Velde is still tempted by the form he had in 2008 after successfully finishing the Giro. Even at his age, I still don't think we've seen him at his very best.

Don't crash...don't crash...don't crash...don't crash...don't crash...don't crash...
 

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