German TT champs.

[Ibanez]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but did Martin just win a 34.5km race in 35:15?

That's pushing 59kph.

Wow.

 

[ingsve]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but did Martin just win a 34.5km race in 35:15?

That's pushing 59kph.

Wow.

CQ ranking says the course was 30km. That would make it 51 km/h which is more likely to be true.

 

[ErmOkk]

or they quickly changed it to make their new potential german hero less suspicious . He trully is a new Ullrich in my eyes, with that big body slamming huge amounts of power on his pedals, but probably never good enough to follow the true climbers .

 

[joy118118]

It is 34.5km. As long as the U23 TT. The U23 TT champion Kittel even finished in 36:41.

 

[theyoungest]

or they quickly changed it to make their new potential german hero less suspicious . He trully is a new Ullrich in my eyes, with that big body slamming huge amounts of power on his pedals, but probably never good enough to follow the true climbers .

Yeah right, Ullrich was much more of a climber than Tony Martin, finishing 2nd in the Tour at age 22. (Martin is 3 years older already)

 

[markene2]

I always thought that Martin would be the new Ullrich. He is much stronger at the TT. And can of course improve the climbing. Just look at Wiggins. I hope we see a new Ullrich. With the same respect that he had, and the way he treated the other riders. Only time will tell!

 

[ingsve]

It is 34.5km. As long as the U23 TT. The U23 TT champion Kittel even finished in 36:41.

There is no way that the course was 34.5 km long unless it was all downhill from a mountain. If it was 34.5 km then even Robert Müller at 26th place would be over 50 km/h. It's simply a misprint somewhere.

 

[Zoncolan]

A powerful following wind?
@markene2: much stronger TT-er than Ullrich? Check out Ullrich's palmares.

 

[markene2]

@Zoncolan

Im sorry i ment that he was stronger in the TT than in the mountains. A good TTer.
Ullrich was way better in all of them. I remember Ulle. I am sorry, but my english is not so good.

second edit:

Martin is a good at the Time Trials. Not as good as Ulle, but he might come close. If he gets better in the mountain we might have a new Ullrich!

 

[ingsve]

A powerful following wind?
@markene2: much stronger TT-er than Ullrich? Check out Ullrich's palmares.

It seems that the track was run both ways with a turning point so that doesn't explain it and neither does the theory that it was downhill either. The most logical explanation is that they got the distance wrong.

 

[Zoncolan]

It seems that the track was run both ways with a turning point so that doesn't explain it and neither does the theory that it was downhill either. The most logical explanation is that they got the distance wrong.

If they ran the course both ways, I agree. No way they could cover 34.5 km in that time. They got it wrong.
@markene2: a simple misunderstanding I guess.
I too, as many others here, doubt Martin will ever develop into the kind of climber needed to win a GT. A week long stage race sure, but a GT? Never IMO.

 

[Big GMaC]

I have managed to find a profile of the german tt champs

 

[screaming fist]

Actually the distance was 30.4 km - source is a participant.

 

[ingsve]

Actually the distance was 30.4 km - source is a participant.

So, the speed was 51.7 km/h. Very good but not superhumanly good.

 

[Nick777]

I always thought that Martin would be the new Ullrich. He is much stronger at the TT. And can of course improve the climbing. Just look at Wiggins. I hope we see a new Ullrich. With the same respect that he had, and the way he treated the other riders. Only time will tell!

Did you mean to write that?
Jan could TT a bit.

 

[markene2]

@Nick777

I am sorry, i dident mean to write that. My english aint good. Jan is a much better TT than Martin. I always loved Ulle's style.

Martin is a good at the Time Trials. Not as good as Ulle, but he might come close. If he gets better in the mountain we might get a new ullrich