Gilbert: "Pozzato's speciality is to make others lose" Is this fair?

[auscyclefan94]

Gilbert: "Pozzato's speciality is to make others lose" Is this a fair statement?

I remember at Rvv last year how Pozzato followed Boonen around and wheel sucked the whole time. Similarto Paris Roubaix how he just sat on the wheels the whole time until he had to ride hard because he was caught behind boonen. His tatics at the worlds this year were of a defeatist attitude.

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/5971/Gilbert-critical-of-Pozzato-his-speciality-is-to-make-others-lose.aspx

 

[unsheath]

He's got a parasitic dependency on the race tactics of others. Gutless.

 

[Lanark]

Not really. The Belgian press started some campaign against Pozzato because he didn't want to work in a group with two Belgian riders during the WC. Gilbert is just saying what he knows his compatriots want to hear. Just a rider using the press to his advantage.

 

[Kwibus]

Not really. The Belgian press started some campaign against Pozzato because he didn't want to work in a group with two Belgian riders during the WC. Gilbert is just saying what he knows his compatriots want to hear. Just a rider using the press to his advantage.

Well tbh I'm happy they started that campaign, because it's the truth. The only thing Pozzato does is sit in the favourites wheel. It's quite pathetic specially if you consider how much races he wins because of this....

I understand Gilbert that when he attacks on a hill in Paris - Tours and the first one in his wheel is Pozzato that he decides to just sit in the peloton. And what did Pozzato gain because of this? Exactly.. nothing. Just like Australia.

 

[Lanark]

Well tbh I'm happy they started that campaign, because it's the truth. The only thing Pozzato does is sit in the favourites wheel. It's quite pathetic specially if you consider how much races he wins because of this....

I understand Gilbert that when he attacks on a hill in Paris - Tours and the first one in his wheel is Pozzato that he decides to just sit in the peloton. And what did Pozzato gain because of this? Exactly.. nothing. Just like Australia.

Really? Here is a video of the incident (after about a minute). Gilbert speeds up for maybe ten seconds, sees Pozzato on his wheel, immediately starts braking. That's a childish obsession. Pozzato probably rode longer on the front than Gilbert. Gilbert is the most explosive rider on small hills now, he better get used to people sitting on his wheel, it's only gonna get much worse.

So what was Pozzato supposed to do here? Allow Gilbert a gap? Why? He isn't a teammate.

 

[Vonn Brinkman]

Well tbh I'm happy they started that campaign, because it's the truth. The only thing Pozzato does is sit in the favourites wheel. It's quite pathetic specially if you consider how much races he wins because of this....

He doesn't really, because he doesn't win that much. A victory in the Giro this year, and that criterium before the WC in Australia.

 

[khardung la]

Gilbert: "Pozzato's speciality is to make others lose" Is this a fair statement?

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Yes, but that is a tactic like any other. Gilbert could do the same. It concerns just Pozzato's and Pozzato's DS

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

i feel a little sorry for the guy, he is getting a lot of negative media at the moment. Seems like people are taking their frustration out on the easy target.

 

[L'arriviste]

So Pippo is now the Leipheimer of the Classics! I like this dirty press. Better than all that 'my kingdom for my team' stuff anyway.

Well, I agree to some extent with Lanark above who asked the question, what's Pippo supposed to do? Seems to me however that Phil probably had a déjà vu from Geelong.

Speaking as a major Philophile, Pippo's just a Gilbert wannabe anyway.

 

[valaverde7]

In this type of race, he is the most controlated of the bunch.And he has very more difficults for win.He has understand this and learn to run of this way

 

[Machu Picchu]

I understand Gilbert that when he attacks on a hill in Paris - Tours and the first one in his wheel is Pozzato that he decides to just sit in the peloton. And what did Pozzato gain because of this? Exactly.. nothing. Just like Australia.

....and what did Gilbert gain by this?

each cyclist will have their own style/tactics to try and get the best result they can out of a race, if Gilbert is letting Pozzato get inside his head then that's a big plus for Pozzato, Gilbert needn't concern himself so much with others.

 

[Kwibus]

He doesn't really, because he doesn't win that much. A victory in the Giro this year, and that criterium before the WC in Australia.

That was exactly my point

 

[auscyclefan94]

Well tbh I'm happy they started that campaign, because it's the truth. The only thing Pozzato does is sit in the favourites wheel. It's quite pathetic specially if you consider how much races he wins because of this....

I understand Gilbert that when he attacks on a hill in Paris - Tours and the first one in his wheel is Pozzato that he decides to just sit in the peloton. And what did Pozzato gain because of this? Exactly.. nothing. Just like Australia.

Just like Australia? i think you might like to review that comment after our 3rd place in the mens rr. Best of the big 4.

 

[Mambo95]

Just like Australia? i think you might like to review that comment after our 3rd place in the mens rr. Best of the big 4.

Calm down. He means 'Just like in Australia' (ie the Worlds), not the Australian team.

 

[Machu Picchu]

Just like Australia? i think you might like to review that comment after our 3rd place in the mens rr. Best of the big 4.

I think he meant 'just like in Australia' referring to Pozzato

 

[Kwibus]

....and what did Gilbert gain by this?

each cyclist will have their own style/tactics to try and get the best result they can out of a race, if Gilbert is letting Pozzato get inside his head then that's a big plus for Pozzato, Gilbert needn't concern himself so much with others.

Well so far Gilbert is right then. Pozzato rides to make sure the favourite doesn't win. This also results that he won't win either, but atleast the favourite didn't win. That's what he said didn't he?

I agree that Gilbert has to learn that everyone will watch him. He's the big guy and in cycling that means that everyone is on your wheel when you go. It must be said though that Pozzato mastered this tactic. Never ever leave the wheel of the favourite, but because of this he doesn't win jack**** either so maybe he should consider trying something else some day.

 

[Kwibus]

Just like Australia? i think you might like to review that comment after our 3rd place in the mens rr. Best of the big 4.

2 people allready explained what I meant Just like Pozzato did in Australia.

 

[auscyclefan94]

2 people allready explained what I meant Just like Pozzato did in Australia.

All good! His cobbled classics performances last year were quite good but he needs to be more agressive if he wants to get rid of guys like Boonen. He was just too timid last year and didn't have a go. Even in Roubaix last year, he was not attacking enough and should of tried to attack Boonen as he and hushovd would of beaten him in a sprint. RvV his tatics were just stupid last year. But then you also have Cancellara.

 

[brianf7]

Pozzato is a wheel sucker he shown this in the worlds he was in the break on the last lap at top of last hill but he sat on for the last 6km hopeing to sprint at the end same as he did at Ballarat he sat on Sparticus.

He cost himself and the rest of the break the race.

Dont you hate them SOS riders they are the scum of the earth if they have to do a turn do it down hill at the start of the race then sit on the rest of the way.

 

[Machu Picchu]

Well so far Gilbert is right then. Pozzato rides to make sure the favourite doesn't win. This also results that he won't win either, but atleast the favourite didn't win. That's what he said didn't he?

I agree that Gilbert has to learn that everyone will watch him. He's the big guy and in cycling that means that everyone is on your wheel when you go. It must be said though that Pozzato mastered this tactic. Never ever leave the wheel of the favourite, but because of this he doesn't win jack**** either so maybe he should consider trying something else some day.

What Pozzato does shouldn't really concern Gilbert though, how many victories has Pozzato 'stolen' from Gilbert by this? I think he's looking for excuses, he can't blame Pozzato for Australia and he didn't have the legs to win yesterday, there's no shame in the way he rode in either race so why try to tag it to someone else?

 

[El Pistolero]

What Pozzato does shouldn't really concern Gilbert though, how many victories has Pozzato 'stolen' from Gilbert by this? I think he's looking for excuses, he can't blame Pozzato for Australia and he didn't have the legs to win yesterday, there's no shame in the way he rode in either race so why try to tag it to someone else?

Look, if someone annoys you you're going to tell it to him indirectly or directly. It's no news that Pozatto is a wheelsucker. I already knew that since the ronde van Vlaanderen in 2008/2009. So does Boonen and he also spoke out about how annoying Pozatto is.

It already says enough that cyclists rather lose then have Pozatto's bad breath in their neck all day.

Please remember that the Belgians aren't ****ed because they somehow lost the Worlds thanks to Pozatto. Stories like this have been circulating since 2008.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Just like Australia? i think you might like to review that comment after our 3rd place in the mens rr. Best of the big 4.

are you saying top 4... as in australia, belgium, spain and italy?
Honestly, Australia doesn't come close to italy or spain.

I would say big 2, followed by the next group; belgium, Australia, holland, germany, france... in fact the cq rankings represent these nations being pretty close.

 

[Machu Picchu]

Look, if someone annoys you you're going to tell it to him indirectly or directly. It's no news that Pozatto is a wheelsucker. I already knew that since the ronde van Vlaanderen in 2008/2009. So does Boonen and he also spoke out about how annoying Pozatto is.

So it is expected that Pozatto rides like this, so deal with it.

It already says enough that cyclists rather lose then have Pozatto's bad breath in their neck all day.

It says a lot about their mentality

Please remember that the Belgians aren't ****ed because they somehow lost the Worlds thanks to Pozatto. Stories like this have been circulating since 2008.

I’ve not made any comment about Belgians, though Gilbert is complaining, as was Leukemans last week and as you say Boonen too has complained in the past.

I’m not defending the way Pozzato races, it is up to him and I would agree that it isn’t working for him, but Gilbert is better than looking to Pozzato for reasons he lost.

 

[hrotha]

Why would Gilbert go on when he knows Pozzato won't cooperate after the climb? It's like attacking 10 km from a mountain-top finish, seeing Contador on your wheel, and still going without asking for a pull.

 

[Machu Picchu]

Why would Gilbert go on when he knows Pozzato won't cooperate after the climb? It's like attacking 10 km from a mountain-top finish, seeing Contador on your wheel, and still going without asking for a pull.

is that a comparison of Pozzato to Contador

if Gilbert had thought he could win at Paris-Tours then yes he'd have attacked, perhaps Pozzato goes with, perhaps others but by sitting back he achieves nothing, unless he felt he didn't have the legs and he'd rather wait for Italy.