Giro 2011: Stage 16 Belluno - Nevegal12.7 km ITT

[The Hitch]

Following in the spirit of last years mountain tt thread i have included a poll.

This tt however is less severe.

Nevegal is 8km at 7.4% so hard but not as hard as Kronplatz.

Moreover flat skills could come into play. First 2k is -2.3% and next 3k is 2.9% before climb starts 6km in.

Dont know if some riders might want to use handlebars for that section.

Once the climb starts it gets tough. The hard section is the first 4k of the climb which is an average of 10.3 %. Towards the end it gets easier as can be seen above.

The fact that its a tt obviously means people will be forced to race hard.

Any guesses on what the times will be like. Im guessing around the 32minute mark (wild guess there).

 

[boomcie]

Funny poll. Who will be stupid enough not to pick Contador?

EDIT: bingo.

 

[Kvinto]

The only thing that can prevent Contador of winning this is the lack of motivation

 

[maltiv]

Funny poll. Who will be stupid enough not to pick Contador?

EDIT: bingo.

Those who are slightly original and realize that if they pick Contador and he wins no one will be impressed by their amazing prediction. If you pick someone else, however, internet fame awaits.

 

[Duitama]

Contador FTW,
I think Anton can come close though.

 

[roundabout]

I actually think that the course marked in yellow (for cars to return to the start) would have been better as an MTT in the context of this particular Giro.

 

[YoRUsh]

I would love to vote for someone else then Contador, but since he will already have an advantage on his opponents starting the climb I really cant see anyone beating him.

 

[Bavarianrider]

Winner will stay below 30 minutes

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Funny poll. Who will be stupid enough not to pick Contador?

EDIT: bingo.

Me. I picked Igor Anton. I can see someone not entirely invested in the GC race giving everything tomorrow.

 

[plooton]

As a Kreuziger's fan hoping of his rise on the scorecard, I'm afraid Menchov will win the chrono.

 

[will10]

Someone like Sella will be up there - a non-GC guy or two in the top 5 I suspect.

I'm going to say Rujano, not sure why.

 

[plooton]

Rujano for the win here? Totally impossible., not even in top 10.

 

[boomcie]

Someone like Sella will be up there - a non-GC guy or two in the top 5 I suspect.

I'm going to say Rujano, not sure why.

I'm going to say Danilo Wyss, not sure why.

 

[El Pistolero]

I hope Contador. Any Spaniard will do really.

 

[Descender]

Nibali will win.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Rujano for the win here? Totally impossible., not even in top 10.

Even in his bad years (2006-2009) in Europe it was in mountain time trials that Rujano popped up in the top 10 and even the top 5.. and that was an out-of-form, not playing for the GC Rujano.
How can you say it's impossible he'll finish in the top 10? Ignorance?

Mountain ITT Tour of Murcia 2008
1. [ESP] VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro GCE 33'32" 20
2. [ITA] GARZELLI Stefano ASA 02" 10
3. [ESP] CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto AST 06" 5
4. [BLR] SAMOILAU Branislau ASA 07" 3
5. [ESP] CUESTA LOPEZ DE CASTRO Iñigo CSC 09" 0
6. [RUS] PETROV Evgeni TCS 17" 0
7. [ESP] SASTRE CANDIL Carlos CSC 23" 0
8. [VEN] RUJANO GUILLEN Jose Humberto GCE 27" 0
9. [RUS] MENCHOV Denis RAB 43" 0
10. [NED] DEKKER Thomas RAB 47" 0
11. [ESP] SANCHEZ GONZALEZ Samuel EUS 48" 0

Giro d'Italia 2008, Kronplatz ITT

1. [ITA] PELLIZOTTI Franco LIQ 40'26" 70
2. [ITA] SELLA Emanuele CSF 06" 40
3. [ITA] SIMONI Gilberto SDA 17" 25
4. [ESP] CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto AST 22" 15
5. [ITA] RICCO Riccardo SDV 30" 10
6. [VEN] RUJANO GUILLEN Jose Humberto GCE 49" 7
7. [ITA] BRUSEGHIN Marzio LAM 01'04" 5
8. [ITA] POZZOVIVO Domenico CSF 01'43" 3
9. [ITA] DI LUCA Danilo LPR 01'45" 2
10. [RUS] MENCHOV Denis RAB 01'49" 1

2008, Tour de Suisse, Klausenpass ITT

1. [CZE] KREUZIGER Roman LIQ 1h00'22" 40
2. [VEN] RUJANO GUILLEN Jose Humberto GCE 16" 25
3. [GER] KLÖDEN Andreas AST 18" 15
4. [ITA] CUNEGO Damiano LAM 54" 10
5. [LUX] SCHLECK Fränk CSC 01'27" 5
6. [GER] VOIGT Jens CSC 01'35" 3
7. [ESP] ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor EUS 01'49" 2
8. [SWE] LÖFKVIST Thomas THR 02'08" 1
9. [LUX] SCHLECK Andy CSC 02'20" 0
10. [NED] TEN DAM Laurens RAB 02'50" 0

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Yup, you're right, this guy has NO chance whatsoever at finishing top 10 in a mountan ITT tomorrow

 

[Bavarianrider]

12,7km is rather pathetic. There won't be big gaps. They should have put a 15km flat section before it, then there would have happended some real gaps.

 

[Izzy eviel]

I'm gonna be different & pick Scarponi. I have a funny feeling in my bones.

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Even in his bad years (2006-2009) in Europe it was in mountain time trials that Rujano popped up in the top 10 and even the top 5.. and that was an out-of-form, not playing for the GC Rujano.
How can you say it's impossible he'll finish in the top 10? Ignorance?

Mountain ITT Tour of Murcia 2008
1. [ESP] VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro GCE 33'32" 20
2. [ITA] GARZELLI Stefano ASA 02" 10
3. [ESP] CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto AST 06" 5
4. [BLR] SAMOILAU Branislau ASA 07" 3
5. [ESP] CUESTA LOPEZ DE CASTRO Iñigo CSC 09" 0
6. [RUS] PETROV Evgeni TCS 17" 0
7. [ESP] SASTRE CANDIL Carlos CSC 23" 0
8. [VEN] RUJANO GUILLEN Jose Humberto GCE 27" 0
9. [RUS] MENCHOV Denis RAB 43" 0
10. [NED] DEKKER Thomas RAB 47" 0
11. [ESP] SANCHEZ GONZALEZ Samuel EUS 48" 0

Giro d'Italia 2008, Kronplatz ITT

1. [ITA] PELLIZOTTI Franco LIQ 40'26" 70
2. [ITA] SELLA Emanuele CSF 06" 40
3. [ITA] SIMONI Gilberto SDA 17" 25
4. [ESP] CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto AST 22" 15
5. [ITA] RICCO Riccardo SDV 30" 10
6. [VEN] RUJANO GUILLEN Jose Humberto GCE 49" 7
7. [ITA] BRUSEGHIN Marzio LAM 01'04" 5
8. [ITA] POZZOVIVO Domenico CSF 01'43" 3
9. [ITA] DI LUCA Danilo LPR 01'45" 2
10. [RUS] MENCHOV Denis RAB 01'49" 1

2008, Tour de Suisse, Klausenpass ITT

1. [CZE] KREUZIGER Roman LIQ 1h00'22" 40
2. [VEN] RUJANO GUILLEN Jose Humberto GCE 16" 25
3. [GER] KLÖDEN Andreas AST 18" 15
4. [ITA] CUNEGO Damiano LAM 54" 10
5. [LUX] SCHLECK Fränk CSC 01'27" 5
6. [GER] VOIGT Jens CSC 01'35" 3
7. [ESP] ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor EUS 01'49" 2
8. [SWE] LÖFKVIST Thomas THR 02'08" 1
9. [LUX] SCHLECK Andy CSC 02'20" 0
10. [NED] TEN DAM Laurens RAB 02'50" 0

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Yup, you're right, this guy has NO chance whatsoever at finishing top 10 in a mountan ITT tomorrow

It's not just a mountain TT though, there's a nice chance to be at a 30 second deficit to the field by the start of the climb.

Brainpower will have some relevance - there are still some old-school full genius riders who forget about aerodynamics when not on their TT bike and will pay in the beginning.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

The Murcia ITT was not only uphill either. He did fine there.
Just saying.

I even found a result in one of the past years, where he played no role in the GC, was terrible in the mountains, and still finished 44th in a pancake flat ITT. He's definately not a J-Rod, Gadret or Arroyo on the flat

 

[Kwibus]

It's not just a mountain TT though, there's a nice chance to be at a 30 second deficit to the field by the start of the climb.

Brainpower will have some relevance - there are still some old-school full genius riders who forget about aerodynamics when not on their TT bike and will pay in the beginning.

Rujano isn't a crap TT rider. He's actually quite decent on the flat ones as well. A lot better than Purito.

 

[maxmartin]

Nibali will win.

don't think he will win, but hope he can be in top 3 and take some seconds back from scarponi

 

[Kwibus]

I could make a crazy prediction, but I won't. Contador will win.

 

[Parrulo]

its hard to see past contador. but i will go with nibali 1st; scarponi 2nd; contador 3rd

just hoping for something different

 

[Magnus]

Dont know if some riders might want to use handlebars for that section.

I think all the riders will want to use handlebars

Some might use clip ons. It should still be possible to stay below 6.8 kg.