Giro d'Italia 2016 Rumours

[Red Rick]

Let's start this baby early. The great province of Gelderland, the Netherlands, is trying to get the start of the greatest race in the world. The plan is to host the start in Apeldoorn, and then have road stages that start and finish in Arnhem, and Nijmegen.

In Dutch.http://www.gelderlander.nl/regio/ar...5-miljoen-uit-voor-organisatie-giro-1.4782543

Edit:

Stage 1 Apeldoorn ITT 9.8 km ***
Stage 2 Arnhem - Nijmegen 190 km **
Stage 3 Nijmegen - Arnhem 189 km *
Rest
Stage 4 Catanzaro - Praia a Mare 191 km ***
Stage 5 Praia a Mare - Benevento 233 km **
Stage 6 Ponte - Roccaraso (Aremogna) 185 km ***
Stage 7 Sulmona - Foligno 210 km **
Stage 8 Foligno - Arezzo 169 km ***
Stage 9 Redde in Chianti - Greve in Chianti ITT 40.4 km ****
Rest
Stage 10 Campi Bisenzio - Sestola 216 km ***
Stage 11 Modena - Asolo 212 km ***
Stage 12 Noale - Bibione 168 km *
Stage 13 Palmanova - Cividale del Friuli 161 km ****
Stage 14 Farra d'Alpago - Corvara 210 km *****
Stage 15 Castelrotto - Alpe di Siusi 10.8 km MTT ****
Rest
Stage 16 Bresanone - Andalo 133 km ***
Stage 17 Molveno - Cassano d'Adda 196 km *
Stage 18 Muggiò - Pinerolo 234 km ***
Stage 19 Pinerolo - Risoul 161 km MTF *****
Stage 20 Guillestre - S.Anna di Vinadio 134 km MTF *****
Stage 21 Cuneo - Torino 150 km *

 

[staubsauger]

Plan de Corones tt should be finally back next year.

 

[Netserk]

So no Eshnar updates of the rumours in the OP no more

 

[Maaaaaaaarten]

Let's start this baby early. The great province of Gelderland, the Netherlands, is trying to get the start of the greatest race in the world. The plan is to host the start in Apeldoorn, and then have road stages that start and finish in Arnhem, and Nijmegen.

In Dutch.http://www.gelderlander.nl/regio/ar...5-miljoen-uit-voor-organisatie-giro-1.4782543

Don't they have this ~1km at ~9% climb in Nijmegen (probably a bit less/shorter)? Like, the only climb in the Netherlands outside of Limburg? That would at least make an interesting finale for a sprint stage, otherwise it will probably be pretty boring.

EDIT: ah yes they do though it's more like like 1km @ 7-8% with a 10% middle section.
http://www.klimtijd.nl/beklimming/oude-holleweg

http://www.klimtijd.nl/beklimming/nieuwe-holleweg

these two are climbing the same hill (so they can't do both) a few km outside of the center of Nijmegen, so please do one of these and then finish in Nijmegen please whoever decides the route!

 

[jens_attacks]

hilltop finish on il ciocco,colle di sampeyre,bondone,agnello-izoard,fedaia-pordoi

 

[Red Rick]

Don't they have this ~1km at ~9% climb in Nijmegen (probably a bit less/shorter)? Like, the only climb in the Netherlands outside of Limburg? That would at least make an interesting finale for a sprint stage, otherwise it will probably be pretty boring.

EDIT: ah yes they do though it's more like like 1km @ 7-8% with a 10% middle section.
http://www.klimtijd.nl/beklimming/oude-holleweg

http://www.klimtijd.nl/beklimming/nieuwe-holleweg

these two are climbing the same hill (so they can't do both) a few km outside of the center of Nijmegen, so please do one of these and then finish in Nijmegen please whoever decides the route!

Yep, the oude holleweg and the nieuwe holleweg are basically the only 2 climbs outside limburg worth riding. They're next to each other so I don't see them using both. The road is very narrow so I'd be surprised if they used any of the hills at all. But i've been there, and that little climb is a *****, although I have to say i'm horribly out of shape.

 

[Red Rick]

I'd say the middle part is steeper than 10%, i've seen profiles estimate the steepest part up to 15%.

There are more small hills in the neighbourhood, but they're all really narrow, and off the main roads, so I wouldn't expect them to use it.

And yeah, sorry if Eshnar wanted to make the op

 

[Netserk]

And yeah, sorry if Eshnar wanted to make the op

He's a mod, he'll probably just hijack the thread and edit the OP to fill it with rumours

 

[ILovecycling]

He's a mod, he'll probably just hijack the thread and edit the OP to fill it with rumours

I hope

And I totally agree with kronplatz

 

[Eshnar]

And yeah, sorry if Eshnar wanted to make the op

One would think to be somewhat safe, 8 months before the presentation... instead people manage to steal my threads like this

He's a mod, he'll probably just hijack the thread and edit the OP to fill it with rumours

Ofc I will. Right now however there's not enough stuff to come up with something that could resemble a complete route.

hilltop finish on il ciocco,colle di sampeyre,bondone,agnello-izoard,fedaia-pordoi

yeah, and then we all wake up in a sweat.


Anyway. As for now I can say:
After the Netherlands (IF they start there), transfer to northern Italy. Maybe in/near Liguria. Then, the route will go counterclockwise to its climax somewhere in the Dolomites I guess. Western Alps are quite unlikely atm.
There are rumours about the Vesuvio (I would guess at the end of the first week) and a MTF to Piancavallo (the one of 1998). Besides that, not much else.

 

[Red Rick]

Eshnar, you're ofcourse very welcome to hijack the op, don't be offended, I was just excited with the prospect of the Greatest Race in the World visiting my home region

 

[Netserk]

Bump.

Eshnar, I NEED MOAR GIRO!!!

 

[Ruudz0r]

There are a few more hills around Nijmegen, nothing major ofcourse and most of them very small but that shouldnt matter for the Giro

 

[Red Rick]

I've done a couple of more hills in the neighbourhood this week, and will do a couple more, but I really do think the Oude Holleweg or Nieuwe Holleweg are the only candidates to be included, as you can turn on a main road after reaching the top.

Maybe there's a few bigger hills in Klebe, some 10km over the border, but I don't expect them to go there as surely the region wants to have all the action in these stages.

 

[May0maniac]

I've heard rumours about a MTT in Veneto but not Monte Grappa and possibly a Zoldo Alto stage.

 

[Eshnar]

Re:

Bump.

Eshnar, I NEED MOAR GIRO!!!

waaaay too early. I can just confirm the rumours I posted above and add that Montevergine is very likely to get a stage (could also maybe a MTT OR a ITT in the nearby towns) and that there will be one or two stages in Friuli. However, as I said, nothing is certain at all.

 

[WheelofGear]

Bring the sterrati back. The Vino vs. Evans duel was epic.

 

[Lexman]

I don't care as long as the Giro 2016 can start tomorrow already and have the same tension as this years....

 

[hrotha]

I fear they'll take a look at the results, delude themselves into thinking Aru would have won without the ITT, and screw up next year's route.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re:

I fear they'll take a look at the results, delude themselves into thinking Aru would have won without the ITT, and screw up next year's route.

Yep that is definitely a possibility.

 

[May0maniac]

From what I've heard the ITT won't be that long, but we should get one that is at least 40km long and a MTT that should be easier than the Monte Grappa MTT, more like your typical Giro MTT.

 

[Netserk]

I hope it will be Kronplatz again.

 

[May0maniac]

Re:

I hope it will be Kronplatz again.

I hope so too, but I haven't heared anything about that, last year they were pretty confident about getting a stage in the 2015 Giro but from what I know Madonna di Campiglio outbid them.

 

[TheGreenMonkey]

I hope they are not starting outside of Italy.

Kronplatz would be good.

When are we going to get Fauneria and Sampeyre?

 

[MatParker117]

Austria, Berlin or Poland to host the start.