The Santa Barbara-San Valentino combo is rather suitable for a something like 130-140 km mountain stage, and the Mortirolo - Bormio stage should rather have been a tappone. Otherwise the mountain stages seems fairly good. Add the sterrato stage, and we're in for one of the best GC routes the later years.
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There are some nice looking stages, but I'm sorry but the Bormio stage is horrible given the possibilities in the area. It will be 3 times in a row they are using the easy side of the Mortirolo.
Agreed. If there are stages, climbs and areas I want to see in the Giro the coming years, that is on the top of the list. A proper tappone including at least Tonale, Gavia, Mortirolo from Mazzo and finish in Aprica. The other stages I would most like to see is a tappone with Fedaia used the "correct" way, that is as the penultimate climb. And not the least a proper murito stage in Marche, same type as the use sometimes in TA.
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I'm Italian, near Turin, and I come here in awe of all of you knowing climbs and roads I wouldn't be able to place on a map sauf Finestre and Sestriere
I think most (all?) is fixed. But the width of the track is very slim.
It may work as a final climb in a hard stage but you can't have cars on this part of the climb.
But I believe it was reconstructed as in the image below. Don't think a peloton will go through there. Maybe a MTT, but I don't put my hopes high.
I rode the Marmolarda at the end of August, unfortunately there is no way a pro bike race will ever go through the Serrai di Sottoguda again, it's literally a wooden footbridge.But I believe it was reconstructed as in the image below. Don't think a peloton will go through there. Maybe a MTT, but I don't put my hopes high.
Will be like how it was in the 90's.
Yes it looks like the image. But steel structure under.But I believe it was reconstructed as in the image below. Don't think a peloton will go through there. Maybe a MTT, but I don't put my hopes high.
No peloton can go there but it's stiff I would say it should have a capacity of at least 200- 300kg/m².
Motos schmotos... Have some soigneurs stationed on foot, and film the peloton passing through using drones and a couple of stationary cameras. Just make sure the peloton is drawn out when it gets there.
Well, they'll need to tell some people, and I don't think those people would be able to keep everything 100% secret.
If a lot of teams suddenly start training on the same climb... it might be a hint.
I like a lot of it, the Grappa stage is gonna be wasted though with this final climb. I think the bormio stage could work with the steep eastern side but I think the number of stages where the final hard climb is far from the finish is a big risk. Like, I always wanted to see Tze Core into Joux but with another 17km to go after that this might just be a snoozefest. With the same final climb in the Grappa stage as 2017 plus maybe a finish on Col de Joux itself or something like that, it would look extremely great.
I think this Giro route is shaping up depending on racing. so that everybody loves the route if the racing is great and everybody hates it if the racing is bad.
Stage 19 is great but might be wasted because of Finestre being the next day. I like the pacing of the big MTF, Bormio stage and (I guess) flat stage 18 after that. Although I think that Bormio stage might be a waste by the way it looks without a hard Mortirolo.
Personally I think this is high risk-high reward kind of route and doesn't guarantee anything but it has the potential for a lot of great stages depending on GC situation throughout the race.
I like that risk so I praise the route.
Stage 19 is great but might be wasted because of Finestre being the next day. I like the pacing of the big MTF, Bormio stage and (I guess) flat stage 18 after that. Although I think that Bormio stage might be a waste by the way it looks without a hard Mortirolo.
Personally I think this is high risk-high reward kind of route and doesn't guarantee anything but it has the potential for a lot of great stages depending on GC situation throughout the race.
I like that risk so I praise the route.
Pardon my ignorance and slightly off topic re this year’s route but is there a reason Sampyere or Fauneria have been ignored for 20 years. Is it to do with the roads?
A rerun of Stage 18 from 2003 would not go amiss
A rerun of Stage 18 from 2003 would not go amiss
Afaik both climbs have very sketchy descents and Vegni isn't the guy to take that risk, without massive sponsors in the area
I think people on here will agree that the 2012 Giro was one of, if not the worst edition of the race. But the route itself actually had some awesomely designed stages, which would be praised on this forum, but were passively raced.
it was a great edition, pink jersey changed a few times and we had that last TT in Milan when Ryder got the win.
For the southern descent of Fauniera, is the problem mostly the state of the road near the top or the nature of the descent the two places where cars can only go one way? I can see why it might be complicated with cars, but other than that it looks fine.
yeah I think the width of the road is the main problem there. There are also quite a few dangerous sections that would need concrete safety measures, and since we are talking about a very long descent, I can imagine the costs would be high.
I'm sure that none of that would be a dealbreaker with the right offer, but as I said there are no sponsors in the area and I doubt the villages there can pay enough.
I hope that when the deal with Rome is finished, Torino will pay for the Giro to finish there and that the penultimate stage will be in southern Piemonte (like in 2016, but with no visit to France). That should be a way to channel some funds in that direction, and then we might not have such a long drought afterwards again.
Do you think it was the city of Cuneo only who bid for a Fauniera stage a few years ago?
Do you think it was the city of Cuneo only who bid for a Fauniera stage a few years ago?
The rumoured route for next year is probably the best since 2019.
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