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Giro d'Italia Giro d'Italia 2025 Route: Speculation, Rumours and Announcements

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Meanwhile Angliru hasn't exactly stopped action the day before except for one year. But the main reason I'm bringing it up was because you did so in the Vuelta thread.

Mainly we're just measuring with different sticks. With the Vuelta you know what you get and it's gonna give you a route with high predictability, a high floor and a low ceiling, in which case I think a detail like MTF ordering matters fairly little. Now in the Giro, I'm seeing heaps of praise for a fair number of stages that are pretty damn mid all because there's no big MTFs in them.
I think the very lack of MTFs in itself make the mountain stages better. Bormio is more likely to see action if Finestre is the only better opportunity afterwards.
 
If you put Finestre 120 km from the finish line, nothing will happens there.

people said that as well in for the stage Froome turned around in 2018 when Finestre was only the 3rd last climb of that stage. (you should know that with your forum name) (so quite a bad example)

I really have the impression you dislike the route just for the sake of disliking it. Or you really think mountain stages are better if they have hard HC finishes and cols have to be famous, otherwise it's a bad mountain stage.

I actually enjoy the origanality of the rumours so far. A good mix of never used combo's, not to many hard mountain top finishes and a lot of possibilities for attacking from far, ambush or just entertaining medium mountain. And still a few classics.
 
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people said that as well in for the stage Froome turned around in 2018 when Finestre was only the 3rd last climb of that stage. (you should know that with your forum name) (so quite a bad example)

I really have the impression you dislike the route just for the sake of disliking it. Or you really think mountain stages are better if they have hard HC finishes and cols have to be famous, otherwise it's a bad mountain stage.

I actually enjoy the origanality of the rumours so far. A good mix of never just combo's, not to many hard mountain top finishes and a lot of possibilities for attacking from far, ambush or just entertaining medium mountain. And still a few classics.
Probably I didn't expressed properly. Imagine Finestre 120 km from the finish line, and then 120 flat km until the finish. Nothing will happens on Finestre.

My point is the route is also important, not just the riders making the race hard.
 
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Probably I didn't expressed properly. Imagine Finestre 120 km from the finish line, and then 120 flat km until the finish. Nothing will happens on Finestre.

My point is the route is also important, not just the riders making the race hard.
there is nothing like that on the route. While I don't like every stage they at least give riders and teams options. I'd rather this than a route that is just variations of difficult mtfs where there is virtually no room for interesting tactics
 
people said that as well in for the stage Froome turned around in 2018 when Finestre was only the 3rd last climb of that stage. (you should know that with your forum name) (so quite a bad example)

I really have the impression you dislike the route just for the sake of disliking it. Or you really think mountain stages are better if they have hard HC finishes and cols have to be famous, otherwise it's a bad mountain stage.

I actually enjoy the origanality of the rumours so far. A good mix of never just combo's, not to many hard mountain top finishes and a lot of possibilities for attacking from far, ambush or just entertaining medium mountain. And still a few classics.
Majority of people said Finestre would be wasted in 2018, it was the biggest complaint about the route that year. I said it was actually possible to just go there.

For me Finestre-Sestriere is a great combo, but it's main problem is it being the final mountain stage nearly every time, so it's been pretty neutralized by the GC already being decided a few times. But much of that is just due to it's general location.
 
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If the route is common knowledge within the peloton there is no way it's not gonna leak. But then usually January is way too late to announce the route of a race in May, which for many riders will be the big season goal so I wouldn't be surprised if they have given them some information.

I think this fits into the picture perfectly. Something about the first three stages was thrown into doubt, while the rest of the route is already done. But you can neither announce the route without the start so they needed to postpone while giving teams some information in order to make sure nobody will skip the race due to a lack of knowledge of the route. It's a little annoying though if we don't get any official news until January.
 
If the route is common knowledge within the peloton there is no way it's not gonna leak. But then usually January is way too late to announce the route of a race in May, which for many riders will be the big season goal so I wouldn't be surprised if they have given them some information.

I think this fits into the picture perfectly. Something about the first three stages was thrown into doubt, while the rest of the route is already done. But you can neither announce the route without the start so they needed to postpone while giving teams some information in order to make sure nobody will skip the race due to a lack of knowledge of the route. It's a little annoying though if we don't get any official news until January.
If it's gonna be common knowledge, I'm not sure why you just put it out altogether?

But then I have no idea what the economics of a route presentation are.
 
If it's gonna be common knowledge, I'm not sure why you just put it out altogether?

But then I have no idea what the economics of a route presentation are.
You mean why they won't just put it out altogether? I would guess presenting a route without the grand depart would spark a lot of questions and make the organization look more chaotic than a late route reveal. It's an open admission that they f*cked up the planning phase of bringing the start to Albania and that they are way behind schedule in that regard. Only revealing the route to the teams has the same result for us hardcore cycling fans who spend hours on a forum discussing this stuff, but more casual fans will simply never take notice of what's going on this way.
 
Given this news, I just don’t see more than one out of Pogačar, Remco, Roglič and Vingegaard riding the Giro next year. There's just too much uncertainty associated with this race even when compared to the Vuelta
It also doesn't make sense for the riders in general, unless RCS has been negotiating with all 4 sides secretly from the others and offered all of them big bucks.
 
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Pogacar & Vingegaard battling it out in Italy makes sense. Especially if they include Stelvio from Prad + Bormio 2000 & Finestre - Sestriere!

In that case Evenepoel 100% should race and try to win the 2025 Tour de France however.

Anyway there won't be Stelvio + Bormio 2000 either. The race will be centered around Finestre on the penultimate day. When the race has already been decided and not much happens anyway.

Wasted route and wasted Giro d'Italia.
 
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Why are they attempting to make these route announcements some sort of big thing anyway? Nobody cares. Upload a .pdf to your official website and you'll get the same amount of attention and spectators as you would with this whole charade.
It’s just a long-standing tradition in the cycling industry, and in industry (think fashion, smart phones, etc) in general when introducing a new “product.” Probably makes the media and corporate sponsors happy, but pretty irrelevent to fans except for providing a talking point in the off season.
 

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