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Giro d'Italia Giro d'Italia 2025 Route: Speculation, Rumours and Announcements

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2023 had some really tough 4000+ metre mountain stages, but had horrible placement with the MTT, which killed the queen stage.

Ooh, no I meant the Tour 2023, I didn't mean the Giro.
That Giro really had tough mountain stages but all of them were about the MTF. Add to that the horrible placement and ITTs basically not bringing any gaps between top contenders and you get the worst race in the history.
 
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Tre Cime is overrated IMO, we had one good stage in 2007 where it broke up on the Giau. But in 2013 (even without climbs being canceled the race was already over) and 2023 nothing happend until the last few km. Would much prefer a finish in Cortina.
3 Zinnen + Tre Croci probably would be ideal for a MTT. Lots of pitoresque shots of the riders in the Dolomites and a demanding course for a race against the clock.

As a MTF you're obviously correct. The stunning views doesn't justify the lame storyline a stage towards the the 3 Merlons provides.
 
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3 Zinnen + Tre Croci probably would be ideal for a MTT. Lots of pitoresque shots of the riders in the Dolomites and a demanding course for a race against the clock.

As a MTF you're obviously correct. The stunning views doesn't justify the lame storyline a stage towards the the 3 Merlons provides.
It's good for the first hard mountain stages of 3 in a row, but the Giro seems to avoid that at all cost nowadays
 
On a side note, next year it'll be 10 YEARS since the last classic Mortirolo/ Aprica finish (I know technically 2019 was similar and the original proposed stage over the Gavia was awesome, and 2022 was BS)
It's the best combo in cycling IMO, and its about time we get a proper Mortirolo stage.
 
Tre Cime is overrated IMO, we had one good stage in 2007 where it broke up on the Giau. But in 2013 (even without climbs being canceled the race was already over) and 2023 nothing happend until the last few km. Would much prefer a finish in Cortina.
If you've ridden it, you wouldn't say that. The hardest 4 km I've ever ridden, in part because of the steep, long 17% ramps, in part because it was after the other passes (Giau is also a beast). On a side note, the scenery over all these passes is absolutely stunning.
 
If you've ridden it, you wouldn't say that. The hardest 4 km I've ever ridden, in part because of the steep, long 17% ramps, in part because it was after the other passes (Giau is also a beast). On a side note, the scenery over all these passes is absolutely stunning.
That‘s exactly the problem, having the hardest 4 km at the end of a stage isn‘t great if you want long-range attacks. It‘s not great route design.
 
If you've ridden it, you wouldn't say that. The hardest 4 km I've ever ridden, in part because of the steep, long 17% ramps, in part because it was after the other passes (Giau is also a beast). On a side note, the scenery over all these passes is absolutely stunning.
Yeah, Tre Cime after Giau is brutal. That said, as a solo climb Tre Cime from Auronzo is something that you shouldn't underestimate.
 
I'd have a stage with Passo Collalunga, Passo Fedaia, Passo Tre Croce and Tre Cime di Laverido.
I guess it will rather be Col Druscie. It could be preceeded by (depending on stage start) Piancavallo, Forcella Staulanza and Giau, where the latter is the far most important. If they start a bit closer to the finish than Udine it would be possible with more climbs. This so
On a side note, next year it'll be 10 YEARS since the last classic Mortirolo/ Aprica finish (I know technically 2019 was similar and the original proposed stage over the Gavia was awesome, and 2022 was BS)
It's the best combo in cycling IMO, and its about time we get a proper Mortirolo stage.
Agreed, but if we have Finestere-Sestriere that is about equally good.
 
If you've ridden it, you wouldn't say that. The hardest 4 km I've ever ridden, in part because of the steep, long 17% ramps, in part because it was after the other passes (Giau is also a beast). On a side note, the scenery over all these passes is absolutely stunning.
I meant overrated in terms it being a queen stage, wasn't questioning it's difficulty. As Queen Stagiaire said, the last 4km being so hard is the problem as it discourages long range attacks. Similar to the Marmolarda, as a MTF it sucks, but as a penultimate climb it's awesome.
As Red Rick said, it would work well at the start of a block of mountain stages.
I haven't ridden Tre Cime, but as it happens I was in the Dolomites last month and I agree with you, the scenery is incredible and it's the best place I've ever ridden a bike.
 
I guess it will rather be Col Druscie. It could be preceeded by (depending on stage start) Piancavallo, Forcella Staulanza and Giau, where the latter is the far most important. If they start a bit closer to the finish than Udine it would be possible with more climbs. This so

Agreed, but if we have Finestere-Sestriere that is about equally good.
Couldn't they start in pordenone or Sacile and do something similar to 2021?
 
I meant overrated in terms it being a queen stage, wasn't questioning it's difficulty. As Queen Stagiaire said, the last 4km being so hard is the problem as it discourages long range attacks. Similar to the Marmolarda, as a MTF it sucks, but as a penultimate climb it's awesome.
As Red Rick said, it would work well at the start of a block of mountain stages.
I haven't ridden Tre Cime, but as it happens I was in the Dolomites last month and I agree with you, the scenery is incredible and it's the best place I've ever ridden a bike.
I too was there last month. If you look at the overall aspect, the scenery is just tops. I think, however, with a Pogacar or a Remco in the race the route, finishing atop Tre Cime di Lavaredo, would produce fireworks.
 
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