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Coppi-Bartali

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I wonder if Narváez isn't regretting his decision to return to Ineos, seeing as riders like Turner and other fit cyclists are tied to the team train .Did Ineos really need their eight riders alongside Arensmann to do what they did today?
 
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movingtarget said:
No wonder Mas hasn't won a race for four years. Tactically he's terrible.
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This is actually quite embarrasing.
The guy has won a total of four World Tour wins - 2018 Itzulia Basque Country stage 6, 2018 Vuelta a Espana stage 20, 2019 Gree- Tour of Guangxi stage 4, 2019 Gree- Tour of Guangxi General Classification.

That's seven years without a World Tour win. Granted a win in Giro dell'Emilia, is probably bigger than some, if not all those WT wins, and considering the competition in that race it is likely his biggest scalp. Still a rider like that should have more wins and should definitely not ride for second.
 
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In 2024 Narvaez didn´t win the second stage because of Pogacar, in this Giro he win two stages thanks to another teams work...
 
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Coppi-Bartali said:
But Pogacar is faster than Mas; he had a chance to win. Mas had no chance in a sprint; you can't keep a rider that fast on your wheel like he did.

The attack on the climb was good, but only until he saw that wouldn't drop him. Once he saw that Narvaez was right on his wheel, he should have gone with a plan B.

But the most inexplicable thing today was Bahrain's actions. The initial breakaway, which Van Eetvelt and Mas would have joined, would have won the stage without Narvaez, but Bahrain insisted on bringing the peloton closer.

Once Narvaez and the Astana riders joined the breakaway, Bahrain stopped. Today, Narvaez owes his victory to Bahrain.
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I don’t think you understand why AnotherArmchair mentioned Pog . . .
 
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I think MAS can yet win a stage on this Giro ...mountain finish is best
And maybe tomorrow could be a Ciccone stage ?
There are alot of lumps
 
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if PCS is to be believed, Blikra missed the time cut. A very rare thing to happen in the Giro.
 
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Mas winning scenario in a world tour race is miraculously avoiding a crash of an indecisive breakaway at the 100m mark. He has no cards to play.
 
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Coppi-Bartali

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jotafap said:
True, just imagine if it was UAE and Pogi in the same situation, the comment section would explode. :tearsofjoy:
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Well, in return Movistar gave Narvaez two stage wins :tearsofjoy: . Although today it was more Bahrain's doing for that.

But yes, if they were giving Pogacar the Giro d'Italia like they did Vingegaard, the forum would explode, it already explodes in week-long races... At least in 2024, it was Laengen who had to work on the flat and Majka in the mountains to win those stages, unlike the two stages Vingegaard won after Red Bull, Barhain and Decathlon work.
 
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Vinther1991 said:
This is actually quite embarrasing.
The guy has won a total of four World Tour wins - 2018 Itzulia Basque Country stage 6, 2018 Vuelta a Espana stage 20, 2019 Gree- Tour of Guangxi stage 4, 2019 Gree- Tour of Guangxi General Classification.

That's seven years without a World Tour win. Granted a win in Giro dell'Emilia, is probably bigger than some, if not all those WT wins, and considering the competition in that race it is likely his biggest scalp. Still a rider like that should have more wins and should definitely not ride for second.
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The guy is about as explosive as water. He's actually surprisingly good on short and steep ascents considering that. The usual comparative for his skillset I've used is Carlos Sastre - the guy who managed 15 GT top 10s in his career including one victory (in the Tour of course) and five other podiums (albeit a couple acquired retrospectively) but here is his complete career professional win list:

- 2001 Vuelta a Burgos, stage 3
- 2003 Tour de France, stage 13
- 2006 Tour de France, stage 17 (acquired by default, this is the Landis stage)
- 2008 Tour de France, stage 17 (and subsequent GC)
- 2009 Giro d'Italia, stage 16
- 2009 Giro d'Italia, stage 19

As you can see, not exactly a prolific winner, lacking explosivity and with recovery being one of his main skills, meaning he was not exactly racking up the results in short stage races between GTs either. Until he was 33 years old, he had two pro wins plus one where he'd acquired the win thanks to the original winner being DQed. Even then, parcours trends had helped with these wins as he would be marked less closely due to time lost in the time trial mileage of the time; Carlos' main skill was to ride every climb as though he was the only rider on it, frequently he would be dropped early on, only to re-emerge in the top 5 at the top after the stage was settled, having caught and passed people who'd hung on to the pace long after him.

The other race that this one reminded me of was the 2011 Spanish national championships, when Alberto Contador was riding under a cloud and the race finished with a loop around Benicassím with the Desierto de las Palmas climb; he kept on attacking but the one man with him was José Joaquín Rojas, having a career year thanks to Valverde being suspended and the absolutely cursed season that Movistar were having. Contador rode all the way to the line in the hope that he could drop Rojas on the flat, then launched the most forlorn sprint in history. Posterity records Rojas as winning that race solo since Contador has been removed from the results since, but that's not how it panned out.

This was a lot like that Spanish nationals course, except Contador is a much better time triallist than Mas to have the actual hope of his strategy working, and Narváez has about 400x the killer instinct than Rojas ever did.
 
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Coppi-Bartali said:
I wonder if Narváez isn't regretting his decision to return to Ineos, seeing as riders like Turner and other fit cyclists are tied to the team train .Did Ineos really need their eight riders alongside Arensmann to do what they did today?
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Would Narveaz have gotten this opportunity if Almeida was 2nd behind Vingegaard? Probably.
 
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Berniece said:
Would Narveaz have gotten this opportunity if Almeida was 2nd behind Vingegaard? Probably.
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No if designated leadership of UAE hadn't crashed out of the Giro in the first days, Narvaez would have been relegated to housekeeping duties. With his initial deficits put up on first few days.. Only stage hunters chase him, other teams with GC aspirations let him roll away..UAE racing absolutely fantastic and making the most of what is left..Vine, Yates, Solar all abandoned and still team is getting the job done! For Jhony to have won @30% of the stages so far is an incredible achievement..for him to be coming back this strong after crashing out and breaking bones in Tour Down Under really solid racing.
 
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