Giro d'Italia Giro d'Italia 2026, Stage 9: Cervia – Corno alle Scale, 184.0k

[Hugh Januss]

He can't really do that until after his teammates have finished.
Now, on this stage, Piganzoli only finished 34 seconds later, and Kuss 46 seconds later, so it might have been possible, depending on how quickly the stage winner is brought back-stage for the podium ceremony. (Also, I just realised why it's called a 'stage' in English.)
But on Blockhaus, the next best Visma rider - Piganzoli - finished over 2 minutes after Vingegaard.

It looked to me like it was pretty cold up there, I didn't see anyone hanging around the finish line. Vingo had climbed into a Visma van within seconds of crossing the line I'm sure he thanked the others as soon as they joined him. His team seems pretty loyal for someone who shuns them.

 

[RedheadDane]

It looked to me like it was pretty cold up there, I didn't see anyone hanging around the finish line.

Did you see that clip of Bernal finding out that the busses we parked quite a distance away?

 

[Oldman]

In order to win TdF and beat Pogi, he'll have to show much much more, firstly, he'll have to take the initiative and ride more agressive, attacking, pushing hard, look for every hole.

He doesn't need to show any more than he wants to. He has training to do after the Giro to refine what it takes to bridge the gap to Pogacar. He's riding like a PRO and delivering to his sponsor, whether we think it lacks panache' or not. Long season with two GTs and you don't win the Tour now.

 

[Unchained]

Gall ran out of teammates and Visma put 3 in the top 8. They looked pretty good when another team did all the work for them!

This is true if that was Felix Gall's objective but if was trying to claw any seconds he can before he races superior talent in stage 10 and before reaching really testing climbing then it might not seem so futile.
Bora has big choices to make and they should pick Hindley in my opinion and Ineoes bet on the wrong horse in my view.
All the criticism of Vingegaard not doing some rock out with your c@@@ out swagger style of attacking people just because is silly. And control instead of bold has Gall still in the hunt instead of trying to trade blows with Vingegaard. If you are making a map for Visma success you keep your powder dry until it counts and the stage results for 10 will show what you need to do..42k when your legs are medium rare might cause a 30-1:30 to lesser TT riders..guy like Ganna will get the stage but it's all about how well Jonas does the 42..even if he gets 1 or.5 seconds per kilometer it will be great.. and if someone comes up with a great ride like Gall it's no big deal because Visma and Vingegaard got the mountain miles in the bank account.. Teams on the brink are Trek, Ineos..

 

[Daywalker600]

He doesn't need to show any more than he wants to. He has training to do after the Giro to refine what it takes to bridge the gap to Pogacar. He's riding like a PRO and delivering to his sponsor, whether we think it lacks panache' or not. Long season with two GTs and you don't win the Tour now.

"Any more than he wants to" avoiding one big aspect - psychological pressure on his rivals. Blasting oponents, attacking every single time, proactivity, agression. TdF started last week.

 

[RedheadDane]

TdF started last week.

No... the Giro started last week. (Actually the week before that.)
TdF will start on 4/7.




(I am so happy it's not starting on the 6th...)

 

[Daywalker600]

No... the Giro started last week. (Actually the week before that.)
TdF will start on 4/7.




(I am so happy it's not starting on the 6th...)

For you and i perhaps, for Vingo or Pogi, not so much

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

After the finish line obviously…


I have never seen Evenepoel call Oumi after the finish line. What are you on about?

I mean exactly what I said:
Is it ridiculous when other riders greet their loved ones after a finish, perhaps before team mates?

Is it ridiculous when Evenepoel does it (greet loved ones after a finish, perhaps before team mates)?

 

[Tim Cahill]

Gall's best chance to win is to increase the gap to the others as much as he can, focusing only on them on the proviso that cycling is high variance and accident/illness can happen to Vingegaard at any time.

Not the most glamorous strategy. 167/184 people left in the race.

 

[Oldman]

"Any more than he wants to" avoiding one big aspect - psychological pressure on his rivals. Blasting oponents, attacking every single time, proactivity, agression. TdF started last week.

Yeah, that's not a real thing in TTs and GTs. You take time when the energy expense is rewarded with significant time taken. The only thing about the TdF is this was a good training GT with the possible exception of the horrible weather. He had the benefit of UAE's major players crash out in week 2 and Felix Gall is doing a heroic impression of a contending podium player. Nothing threatens his win except mistakes so chilling/training is the best course.

 

[Oldman]

I mean exactly what I said:
Is it ridiculous when other riders greet their loved ones after a finish, perhaps before team mates?

Is it ridiculous when Evenepoel does it (greet loved ones after a finish, perhaps before team mates)?

Last stage of a wicked big race; kiss the bride and baby and then go drink with the compadres'. If you won; you're buying. Those are real rules...look it up.

 

[Berniece]

I mean exactly what I said:
Is it ridiculous when other riders greet their loved ones after a finish, perhaps before team mates?

Is it ridiculous when Evenepoel does it (greet loved ones after a finish, perhaps before team mates)?

How is that remotely similar to calling?

 

[RedheadDane]

For you and i perhaps, for Vingo or Pogi, not so much

The prep might have started now. Not the race.
Of course, it's possibly exactly because of the prep that Vingegaard isn't spending needless energy here.

 

[Berniece]

Dumoulin also found Vingegaard to be riding without any class. So it clearly has nothing to do with being a "hater".

Vingegaard krijgt de wind van voren van Dumoulin: "Bij zo'n zaken denk ik: waarom Jonas?"

Jonas Vingegaard pakte zondag zijn tweede ritwinst in de Giro, ook al had hij daar eigenlijk zijn zinnen niet op gezet. Vingegaard profiteerde vooral van de inspanningen van Decathlon-CMA CGM en Gall, maar overnemen deed hij niet.

www.wielerkrant.be

 

[Red Rick]

Dumoulin also found Vingegaard to be riding without any class. So it clearly has nothing to do with being a "hater".

Vingegaard krijgt de wind van voren van Dumoulin: "Bij zo'n zaken denk ik: waarom Jonas?"

Jonas Vingegaard pakte zondag zijn tweede ritwinst in de Giro, ook al had hij daar eigenlijk zijn zinnen niet op gezet. Vingegaard profiteerde vooral van de inspanningen van Decathlon-CMA CGM en Gall, maar overnemen deed hij niet.

www.wielerkrant.be

Dumoulin being full of it too does not make you correct

 

[Berniece]

Dumoulin being full of it too does not make you correct

Being full of it has nothing to do with it. We as fans of the sport can think that Vingegaard was being a ***. Doesn't matter that it was the "smart" thing to do. It's why people like Pogacar, MVDP and the likes more.

 

[Daywalker600]

Yeah, that's not a real thing in TTs and GTs. You take time when the energy expense is rewarded with significant time taken. The only thing about the TdF is this was a good training GT with the possible exception of the horrible weather. He had the benefit of UAE's major players crash out in week 2 and Felix Gall is doing a heroic impression of a contending podium player. Nothing threatens his win except mistakes so chilling/training is the best course.

Beating Pog requires all i mentioned in a post, i am affraid. Without risk and taking all the chances simply wont be enough, because Pog will do exactly what i posted.

 

[Unchained]

I mean exactly what I said:
Is it ridiculous when other riders greet their loved ones after a finish, perhaps before team mates?

Is it ridiculous when Evenepoel does it (greet loved ones after a finish, perhaps before team mates)?

Really internet? I mean really!!!!? Now we are going to argue that there is some correct way to celebrate after finishing? Really? There is an established correct sequence of who you greet at the end of a race?
Remco has hugged and kissed his family, as much as anyone after he races.
It's lost on newer fans when Greg Lemond went crazy in jubilation with his wife at the finish line after a miracle result. Also pre internet was grumbling about riders suddenly including their children in podium and other events after the race.. It died down on it's own because some tiny subset of purists who found kids a capital offense just kept their anger mostly self contained.
A guy pointing to the sky as tribute to something spiritual, someone dead as an act of remembrance.. Kissing a ring or photo, the ground.. Whatever is fine as long as nobody crashes. It's hard to believe that people try to enforce non existent, unwritten rules..
Anyone who gets close to Ganna's time should get down and thank the heavens..

I personally find it jaded and ugly that people think that an expression of joy with family, people who are important, children is done in some deliberate act of marketing.. Come off as a family man because some people can't come off as cool..
You can't make this $$$$ up.

 

[RedheadDane]

Anyone who gets close to Ganna's time should get down and thank the heavens..

Ganna's time on this particular stage wasn't actually all that great...
Though, better than what most ordinary people can manage.

 

[Unchained]

Ganna's time on this particular stage wasn't actually all that great...
Though, better than what most ordinary people can manage.

I know.. Lol..I meant today's time.. Anyone close to him should give thanks..! Can you imagine if Ganna could climb.. Miguel Indurain style..

 

[Oldman]

Beating Pog requires all i mentioned in a post, i am affraid. Without risk and taking all the chances simply wont be enough, because Pog will do exactly what i posted.

Now you're talking about beating Pogacar, in future time. No one seriously questions the difference in physical skills. Jonas is a light climber that, as we saw in Blockhaus and the TT today: suffers in wind and prolonged power efforts. He needs to build on present form to be in the area code of Tadej's wheel. Practicing ego-gapping efforts on hills that suit him against this Giro's relative competition is not going to help him in July. He's better off working when it pays off and win this race; any way he can.

 

[Daywalker600]

Now you're talking about beating Pogacar, in future time. No one seriously questions the difference in physical skills. Jonas is a light climber that, as we saw in Blockhaus and the TT today: suffers in wind and prolonged power efforts. He needs to build on present form to be in the area code of Tadej's wheel. Practicing ego-gapping efforts on hills that suit him against this Giro's relative competition is not going to help him in July. He's better off working when it pays off and win this race; any way he can.

Maybe i wasn't clear enough in my posts, my bad, i am reffering to, from the start, the fact that Vingo has an ambition to win the Giro and TdF. And what would/will he need in the close future to stand a chance vs Pog. I find him bleak, not nearly agressive enough. And to be fair, competition in TdF will be a xlass or two higher.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

How is that remotely similar to calling?

If you are not willing to answer a direct question, just say that you are not willing to, don't just ask different questions instead.

 

[Oldman]

Maybe i wasn't clear enough in my posts, my bad, i am reffering to, from the start, the fact that Vingo has an ambition to win the Giro and TdF. And what would/will he need in the close future to stand a chance vs Pog. I find him bleak, not nearly agressive enough. And to be fair, competition in TdF will be a xlass or two higher.

He's following team and training strategy and you are correctly projecting the competition. It's the best prep he can do, though. Seeing this early season he's on track for a podium place due to strong team support and the best prep he can accomplish. There are contenders for all the top steps along with him. He can't take anything for granted.

 

[Daywalker600]

He's following team and training strategy and you are correctly projecting the competition. It's the best prep he can do, though. Seeing this early season he's on track for a podium place due to strong team support and the best prep he can accomplish. There are contenders for all the top steps along with him. He can't take anything for granted.

Fair Point.