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I think it depends. some riders may not perform.briztoon said:Why aren't riders signed to longer contracts?
I could understand once a rider hits 33-35 they may only be signed to one or two year contracts, but don't teams lose out because of these short contracts.
Ferminal said:Local rag is reporting that Durbridge hasn't signed for Green Edge and is considering a number of options![]()
It's the way things have been for a long while in cycling. Usually many teams don't have sponsor guarantees for more than a couple of years at a time so signing contracts longer than that also doesn't make much sense. Shorter contracts also gives the team more flexibility to recruit new riders.briztoon said:Why aren't riders signed to longer contracts?
I could understand once a rider hits 33-35 they may only be signed to one or two year contracts, but don't teams lose out because of these short contracts.
One of his options would be to spend another year maturing with the Jayco-AIS team. He's only 20y.o. so no hurry. Would allow him to maintain a light programme around track commitments without the pressure of suddenly trying to ride with the big boys. Then slots into GE as a stagiaire after the Olympics prior to joining full-time in 2013.Ferminal said:I do not know what those "options" would be.
Would be a mature decision I think.PCutter said:One of his options would be to spend another year maturing with the Jayco-AIS team. He's only 20y.o. so no hurry. Would allow him to maintain a light programme around track commitments without the pressure of suddenly trying to ride with the big boys. Then slots into GE as a stagiaire after the Olympics prior to joining full-time in 2013.
This probably would be best. It might be hard to turn down an offer if there is one, or more, just in case there isn't another one, but I think he will not be wanting for a contract in 12 months time.PCutter said:One of his options would be to spend another year maturing with the Jayco-AIS team. He's only 20y.o. so no hurry. Would allow him to maintain a light programme around track commitments without the pressure of suddenly trying to ride with the big boys. Then slots into GE as a stagiaire after the Olympics prior to joining full-time in 2013.
This really wasn't a great team. Shocked they were even in contention for world tour status. All do they are 2 dimensional Greenedge have a better team than this.Tuarts said:Pegasus Team Last Year (former team and new team):
Robbie McEwen ~ (Katusha -> Radioshack)
Serguy Klimov ~ (Katusha -> Elite-2)
Trent Lowe ~ (Garmin -> Retired)
Svein Tuft ~ (Garmin -> SpiderTech)
Robbie Hunter ~ (Garmin -> RadioShack)
Luke Roberts ~ (Milram -> SaxoBank)
Christian Knees ~ (Milram -> Sky)
Thomas Rohregger ~ (Milram -> Leopard)
Bobbie Traksel ~ (Vacansoleil -> Landbouwkrediet)
Jacek Morajko ~ (Mroz -> CCC-Polsat)
Darryl Impey ~ (RadioShack -> MTN, NetApp)
Clinton Avery ~ (RadioShack -> EFC Quick Step CT)
Rohan Dennis ~ (Jayco Skins -> Rabobank CT)
Bernie Sulzberger ~ (Fly V -> Fly V)
Jay Thomson ~ (Fly V -> Bissell)
Aaron Kemps ~ (Fly V -> Fly V)
Darren Lill ~ (Fly V -> Bonitas)
Phil Zajicek ~ (Fly V -> Suspended)
Jonathan Cantwell ~ (Fly V -> Fly V)
Jai Crawford ~ (Fly V -> GiantKenda)
Ben Day ~ (Fly V -> Kenda)
Dominque Cornu ~ (Skil-Shimano -> Topsport Vlaanderen)
Darren Lapthorne ~ (Rapha-Condor -> Drapac)
Both, actually.PCutter said:I think you may be forgetting how weak that roster was. Or you're being sarcastic.
Expected but very happy none the less. Not sure if you are having a go or not but i am very happy with the team. They will be strong for the one day races, they might even pull off a classic win or two. Now they will be lucky if anyone gets into the top 30 of a GT but what does that matter. I think that they could be a chance to pull of some stage wins at the GT or maybe even the Green Jersey @ TDF.luckyboy said:Daniel Benson just tweeted that GreenEdge will be adding Julian Dean to the superteam. Can they get any stronger?!
Of course it matters that GE is going to almost totally one demensional. With 28 riders a team should be able to have a balanced squad. FDJ for example have a well rounded squad yet they are not PT. GE should have signed more climbing talent. I wish GE well and hope they are successful but sadly they are going to be exposed hugely in mountains. This should not happen in a PT squad.Green_&_Gold said:Expected but very happy none the less. Not sure if you are having a go or not but i am very happy with the team. They will be strong for the one day races, they might even pull off a classic win or two. Now they will be lucky if anyone gets into the top 30 of a GT but what does that matter. I think that they could be a chance to pull of some stage wins at the GT or maybe even the Green Jersey @ TDF.
I see your point but i think its a little bit more complicated than that. Tell me if you were in charge of GE what climber out there would you get to come to GE. A new team from a country who has never had a PT squad (the closest we have ever come was pegasus and we all know how that ended). The y probably dont have the funds of other teams. Im not having a go its a serious question. I would like to know?LukeSchmid said:Of course it matters that GE is going to almost totally one demensional. With 28 riders a team should be able to have a balanced squad. FDJ for example have a well rounded squad yet they are not PT. GE should have signed more climbing talent. I wish GE well and hope they are successful but sadly they are going to be exposed hugely in mountains. This should not happen in a PT squad.
Yes, but sets up beautifully for the GE-Euski merged superteam in 2013ingsve said:Still makes me sad that we are sure to get a mirrored opposite to Euskaltel in the WT next year.
Hopefully they sniff out any crosswind opportunities and try to exploit them. At least that way they may be able to have an influence outside the final 500m.LukeSchmid said:Of course it matters that GE is going to almost totally one demensional. With 28 riders a team should be able to have a balanced squad. FDJ for example have a well rounded squad yet they are not PT. GE should have signed more climbing talent. I wish GE well and hope they are successful but sadly they are going to be exposed hugely in mountains. This should not happen in a PT squad.
Peter Velits, Kanstantin Sivtsov, Nairo Quintana, Jose Rujano, Remi Di Gregorio, Thomas Rohregger (who might still be available), Linus Gerdemann, Kevin Seeldrayers, Francis De Greef, Morris Possoni, Lachlan Morton (might be too young), Lachlan Norris are all climbers of differing abilities. If they had wanted to have more climbers in the squad I am sure they could have signed more. The names I have mentioned would be worth looking at and enquiring about.Green_&_Gold said:I see your point but i think its a little bit more complicated than that. Tell me if you were in charge of GE what climber out there would you get to come to GE. A new team from a country who has never had a PT squad (the closest we have ever come was pegasus and we all know how that ended). The y probably dont have the funds of other teams. Im not having a go its a serious question. I would like to know?
Fair enough. I concede GE might have been a bit shortsighted but i am still happy with the squad. I have to admit a few of those riders would be good. I doubt GE would have got velits. Di Gregorio and Rohregger would be nice.LukeSchmid said:Peter Velits, Kanstantin Sivtsov, Nairo Quintana, Jose Rujano, Remi Di Gregorio, Thomas Rohregger (who might still be available), Linus Gerdemann, Kevin Seeldrayers, Francis De Greef, Morris Possoni, Lachlan Morton (might be too young), Lachlan Norris are all climbers of differing abilities. If they had wanted to have more climbers in the squad I am sure they could have signed more. The names I have mentioned would be worth looking at and enquiring about.
Albasini and Gerrans have done well in smaller stage races, or non mountainous stage races and if they allow them to do that they might have some reasonable results.Ferminal said:Hopefully they sniff out any crosswind opportunities and try to exploit them. At least that way they may be able to have an influence outside the final 500m.
With there being 18 PT teams they probably deserve to be there but I think that is too many teams. 10, 12 or something like that would be better and no first year teams would be a better scenario.Green_&_Gold said:Fair enough. I concede GE might have been a bit shortsighted but i am still happy with the squad. I have to admit a few of those riders would be good. I doubt GE would have got velits. Di Gregorio and Rohregger would be nice.
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