[Green Edge] Shayne Bannan, Gerry Ryan and an Aussie Pro Team for 2012?

[JRanton]

25 riders announced.

plus the four you mention.

Who is their second neo pro apart from Teklehaymanot?

Hepburn/Durbridge

 

[Anonymous]

Hepburn/Durbridge

So thats two spots remaining then.

25 confirmed (including Beppu)

Posthuma, Hepburn and Durbridge is 28

and they will be allowed 30 as they have two neo's

 

[Anonymous]

ive no idea if this has already been in the thread, i assume so, but i cant be bothered to go through all the pages looking.

full gallery
http://www.flickr.com//photos/rideonscott/sets/72157626780856805/show/

 

[craig1985]

good signing. I was a bit worried they were a bit short on sprinters with all the classics specialists, mountain domestiques and gc guys they had picked up. Dean gives them a whole new set of options in targetting sprint stages.

 

[RecCycling]

1 Jack Bobridge (Garmin-Cervelo)
2 Cameron Meyer (Garmin-Cervelo)
3 Travis Meyer (Garmin-Cervelo)
4 Stuart O’Grady (LeOpard)
5 Jens Mouris (Neth/Vacansoleil)
6 Simon Gerrans (Sky)
7 Sebastian Langeveld (Neth/Rabobank)
8 Pieter Weening (Neth/Rabobank)
9 Tomas Vaitkus (Neth/Astana)
10 Baden Cooke (Saxo Bank-SunGard)
11 Matt Wilson (Garmin-Cervelo)
12 Svein Tuft (Canada/Spidertech)
13 Simon Clarke (Astana)
14 Matt Goss (HTC-Highroad)
15 Michael Albasini (Swtz/HTC-Highroad)
16 Robbie McEwen (Radioshack)
17 Fumiyuki Beppu (Japan/Radioshack)
18 Jens Keukeleire (Cofidis)
19 Leigh Howard (HTC-Highroad)
20 Wesley Sulzberger (FDJ)
21 Allan Davis (Astana)
22 Brett Lancaster (Garmin-Cervelo)
23 Mitch Docker (Skil-Shimano)
24 Julian Dean (NZ/Garmin-Cervelo)
25 Aidis Kruopis (Landbouwkrediet)
26 ??
27 ??
28 ??
29 ??
30 Daniel Teklehaymanot (Eritrea)

 

[luckyboy]

Why is Teklehaymanot 30th in that list?

 

[PCutter]

Why is Teklehaymanot 30th in that list?

Presumably as Teklehaymanot qualifies as a neo pro so he fits into the 29th or 30th slot (of a 28 + 2 neo pro roster under UCI rules) - allowing up to 28th spot to be filled by non-neo pros

 

[craig1985]

1 Jack Bobridge (Garmin-Cervelo)
2 Cameron Meyer (Garmin-Cervelo)
3 Travis Meyer (Garmin-Cervelo)
4 Stuart O’Grady (LeOpard)
5 Jens Mouris (Neth/Vacansoleil)
6 Simon Gerrans (Sky)
7 Sebastian Langeveld (Neth/Rabobank)
8 Pieter Weening (Neth/Rabobank)
9 Tomas Vaitkus (Neth/Astana)
10 Baden Cooke (Saxo Bank-SunGard)
11 Matt Wilson (Garmin-Cervelo)
12 Svein Tuft (Canada/Spidertech)
13 Simon Clarke (Astana)
14 Matt Goss (HTC-Highroad)
15 Michael Albasini (Swtz/HTC-Highroad)
16 Robbie McEwen (Radioshack)
17 Fumiyuki Beppu (Japan/Radioshack)
18 Jens Keukeleire (Cofidis)
19 Leigh Howard (HTC-Highroad)
20 Wesley Sulzberger (FDJ)
21 Allan Davis (Astana)
22 Brett Lancaster (Garmin-Cervelo)
23 Mitch Docker (Skil-Shimano)
24 Julian Dean (NZ/Garmin-Cervelo)
25 Aidis Kruopis (Landbouwkrediet)
26 ??
27 ??
28 ??
29 ??
30 Daniel Teklehaymanot (Eritrea)

FYI, Vaitkus is from Lithuania

 

[LukeSchmid]

FYI, Vaitkus is from Lithuania

And so is Kruopis.

 

[Fus087]

After re-reading the UCI rules, I'm not so sure Teklehaimanot will count as a neo-pro:

The status of new professional is given to any rider who joins a UCI ProTeam or Professional Continental Team for the first time no later than during his twenty-second year.
For the application of this article the date of joining shall be the date on which the rider’s contract comes into force.
The age of the rider is determined by the difference between the year of his hiring and the year of his birth.

His contract comes into force in 2012, he's born in 1988. That's 24, and therefore Teklehaimanot wouldn't count as a neo-pro.

 

[LukeSchmid]

After re-reading the UCI rules, I'm not so sure Teklehaimanot will count as a neo-pro:

His contract comes into force in 2012, he's born in 1988. That's 24, and therefore Teklehaimanot wouldn't count as a neo-pro.

I think you are right, I had just assumed he was young enough.

 

[Nicosix]

With Posthuma and Christian Meier that leaves only two spots.

If Durbridge and Hepburn are really signing, I think we have a full roster for Green Edge.

Let's hope for them they pass UCI's cut for World Tour otherwise they would have to let some people go.

Maybe they are waiting for the answer before they announce future riders

 

[User Guide]

With Posthuma and Christian Meier that leaves only two spots.

If Durbridge and Hepburn are really signing, I think we have a full roster for Green Edge.

Let's hope for them they pass UCI's cut for World Tour otherwise they would have to let some people go.

Maybe they are waiting for the answer before they announce future riders

Mcquaid wants it therefore will happen.All other considerations are irrelevant.
As a sidenote, being English it pains me too say I think theyll do better than many would believe and/or hope.

 

[karlboss]

Mcquaid wants it therefore will happen.All other considerations are irrelevant.
As a sidenote, being English it pains me too say I think theyll do better than many would believe and/or hope.

How do you think they'll do?

 

[Midnightfright]

How do you think they'll do?

It wouldn't pain me to see them do well. With there sprinter heavy set up they should be able to get a decent number of wins especially when there racing at the lower rated races where they will be able to overpower teams. They could do ok in a few small classics but I dont think there will be any huge wins. I will say 15-25 wins next year with maybe 5 of them being pro-tour victories.

 

[simo1733]

I'm English and I hope they do well.I think they will but not in the monuments or Tour De France.

 

[User Guide]

How do you think they'll do?

I think they will win enough to be top 10-12 points wise come end of season.Also am not buying that they'll get "cavendished"in the meaningful races, certainly first third of season.Cavendish hasnt had the shape last couple of seasons, in first half of them anyhow.The "ive put on more muscle to be a better sprinter" what a crock, thats same excuse us fatties use when we not losing the lbs.(although is home Olympics year we may see 2009 shape Cav)

 

[maltiv]

1 Jack Bobridge (Garmin-Cervelo)
2 Cameron Meyer (Garmin-Cervelo)
3 Travis Meyer (Garmin-Cervelo)
4 Stuart O’Grady (LeOpard)
5 Jens Mouris (Neth/Vacansoleil)
6 Simon Gerrans (Sky)
7 Sebastian Langeveld (Neth/Rabobank)
8 Pieter Weening (Neth/Rabobank)
9 Tomas Vaitkus (Neth/Astana)
10 Baden Cooke (Saxo Bank-SunGard)
11 Matt Wilson (Garmin-Cervelo)
12 Svein Tuft (Canada/Spidertech)
13 Simon Clarke (Astana)
14 Matt Goss (HTC-Highroad)
15 Michael Albasini (Swtz/HTC-Highroad)
16 Robbie McEwen (Radioshack)
17 Fumiyuki Beppu (Japan/Radioshack)
18 Jens Keukeleire (Cofidis)
19 Leigh Howard (HTC-Highroad)
20 Wesley Sulzberger (FDJ)
21 Allan Davis (Astana)
22 Brett Lancaster (Garmin-Cervelo)
23 Mitch Docker (Skil-Shimano)
24 Julian Dean (NZ/Garmin-Cervelo)
25 Aidis Kruopis (Landbouwkrediet)
26 ??
27 ??
28 ??
29 ??
30 Daniel Teklehaymanot (Eritrea)

So about 4 TT specialists, 3 guys for cobbled classics, 2 puncheurs, 10 sprinters, a few "allrounders" and zero climbers/stage racers. Awesome composition.

 

[slartiblartfast]

Today's article about Julian Dean's signing referred to Green Edge as the new HTC Highroad, but even HTC had some GC cred.

 

[no_slipstream]

they will struggle in the hills. Can't see them entering the Liège–Bastogne–Liège ! In fact would probably seek to avoid Belguim altogether.
In a grand tour, they will be queing up at the bottom of the GC, an hour behind the leaders after the first week. Only way of winning a sprint is to box in Cav, like Goss tried to in the World Champs- and it didn't work.
Just like Perkins did to Hoy in track world champs track tactics find their way on the road. And also some their best years are behind them.
Yeh minor race wins at best, on pancake flat courses.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Put it this way, based on points GreenEdge will not qualify for the World Tour for 2013 if they are to get the license for next year unless they have avery successful Tour Down Under and sign some better riders but from what Bannan has said, they are wanting to be a sprint/classics team for the time being.

 

[LukeSchmid]

So about 4 TT specialists, 3 guys for cobbled classics, 2 puncheurs, 10 sprinters, a few "allrounders" and zero climbers/stage racers. Awesome composition.

Who are the 10 sprinters?
Who are the 3 cobbled riders?
Who are the 2 puncheurs?

 

[ingsve]

they will struggle in the hills. Can't see them entering the Liège–Bastogne–Liège ! In fact would probably seek to avoid Belguim altogether.
In a grand tour, they will be queing up at the bottom of the GC, an hour behind the leaders after the first week. Only way of winning a sprint is to box in Cav, like Goss tried to in the World Champs- and it didn't work.
Just like Perkins did to Hoy in track world champs track tactics find their way on the road. And also some their best years are behind them.
Yeh minor race wins at best, on pancake flat courses.

The problem is that if they get WT status they would be forced to ride races like Liège–Bastogne–Liège which is why some of us are complaining about their sprint/cobbled strategy. It wouldn't be a problem if they were pro continental but as a WT team you have to race all WT races.

 

[ingsve]

Who are the 10 sprinters?
Who are the 3 cobbled riders?
Who are the 2 puncheurs?

I'm guessing to get to 10 sprinters it would include:

Tomas Vaitkus (Neth/Astana)
Baden Cooke (Saxo Bank-SunGard)
Matt Goss (HTC-Highroad)
Robbie McEwen (Radioshack)
Fumiyuki Beppu (Japan/Radioshack)
Leigh Howard (HTC-Highroad)
Allan Davis (Astana)
Brett Lancaster (Garmin-Cervelo)
Julian Dean (NZ/Garmin-Cervelo)
Aidis Kruopis (Landbouwkrediet)

 

[Ferminal]

they will struggle in the hills. Can't see them entering the Liège–Bastogne–Liège ! In fact would probably seek to avoid Belguim altogether.
In a grand tour, they will be queing up at the bottom of the GC, an hour behind the leaders after the first week. Only way of winning a sprint is to box in Cav, like Goss tried to in the World Champs- and it didn't work.
Just like Perkins did to Hoy in track world champs track tactics find their way on the road. And also some their best years are behind them.
Yeh minor race wins at best, on pancake flat courses.

How many Ardennes top10 does Gerrans have? Clarke has a number of top10s in hilly classics this year, I think Albasini has shown something there before.

The team will be fine there, and no worse than any of the teams that sat by and watched Gilbert make fun of Frandy this year.