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Hey UCI : Roubaix Train-Gate Vs Giro Wheel-Gate

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Roubaix Train-Gate involved CLEAR real-law-breaking and it resulted in ZERO penalties.

Giro Wheel-Gate involved ZERO real-law-breaking and it resulted in CLEAR penalties.

Hey members of the UCI jury, please clarify.
 
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bladerunner said:
Roubaix Train-Gate involved CLEAR real-law-breaking and it resulted in ZERO penalties.

Giro Wheel-Gate involved ZERO real-law-breaking and it resulted in CLEAR penalties.

Hey members of the UCI jury, please clarify.

Apples and oranges. Although FWIW, I found the "too many riders broke the rule, we couldn't have DQ'ed them all" excuse to be particularly pathetic. Seeing a rider almost take his head off ducking under the lowering boom and then seeing another ride their way across the tracks handful of seconds before a million tonnes of fury flashed past was disturbing in a way that sport rarely is.
 
tokenron said:
bladerunner said:
Roubaix Train-Gate involved CLEAR real-law-breaking and it resulted in ZERO penalties.

Giro Wheel-Gate involved ZERO real-law-breaking and it resulted in CLEAR penalties.

Hey members of the UCI jury, please clarify.

Apples and oranges. Although FWIW, I found the "too many riders broke the rule, we couldn't have DQ'ed them all" excuse to be particularly pathetic. Seeing a rider almost take his head off ducking under the lowering boom and then seeing another ride their way across the tracks handful of seconds before a million tonnes of fury flashed past was disturbing in a way that sport rarely is.


Yes, he clearly stated: when you break actual laws there is no penalty (apples), but when you help a mate while not breaking laws there is a penalty (oranges).
 
There was a transgression. When enforcing and punishing the first thing you should do is look at the rule book. The last thing you should do is look at a completely different transgression in a different race for a benchmark.

Some of you guys are worse than my kids.
 
the rules are there so all the violations should be penalized. once you'll start make exceptions you'll end up in the mess which is seen nowadays. so imho yes, the "crossers" should've been DQed, Porte penalized and AC should've been DQed too.
but UCI is mess and so are their races.
 
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glassmoon said:
the rules are there so all the violations should be penalized. once you'll start make exceptions you'll end up in the mess which is seen nowadays. so imho yes, the "crossers" should've been DQed, Porte penalized and AC should've been DQed too.
but UCI is mess and so are their races.

So salty.

UCI Guy Dobbelaere said this "We always allowed this, when it's just to adjust your helmet. It's becoming a problem when you do it for minutes."

it's a common thing to relieve riders from stopping to do this.

Give me one rider who got DQ for doing this? One? So the uci is consistent in following this rule at least. And what i've heard they've always giving the 2 min penalty to any rider who did what Porte did.
 
One was a safety issue- Law should be strictly followed
The other was an assistance issue where rules should be followed as required
Stupid UCI did exactly the reverse on top of which they gave idiotic justification on both cases
if a murder is done by 100 people, the police prosecutes whoever is identified and caught and not let go any guilty because all 100 were not identified and it wouldn't be fair to those actually getting prosecuted.